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Firewall On XP

Discussion in 'General Security' started by etaf, Dec 17, 2011.

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  1. etaf

    etaf Moderator Thread Starter

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    Reading some of the posts here the general opinion appears to be to use the windows firewall and that if on XP SP2 the windows firewall should be OK

    A colleague of mine asked about some issues he has on two XP machines - AVG is telling him to pay for the product, He has never paid before , I suspect he has updated the free version and been forced to use the trail version of AVG 2012
    which means he must have used the free version of AVG in the past and if i remember correctly does NOT have a firewall anyway
    is that correct ?

    So i plan to put MSE onto both these PCs and then i have been looking at comodo firewall , not sure where to download the free version of just the firewall - so any advice on a link - all looks like paid for - OR do you have to choose the free version as you install

    Does Comodo work like zonealarm where you get asked to allow most of the time - my experience is that the average user just accepts which makes the firewall useless in my opinion

    hes behind a NAT router, so has a hardware firewall

    The issue will really be about protection on just one PC which hes uses mobile

    Its all business type use so NO dodgy sites, music download, filesharing etc

    Hes also happy to pay for a security suite product - any recommendations , other than Norton, Mcafee, kaspersky

    I actually have a couple of multi license Mcafee CDs which I got free when buying laptops recently and did not use

    thoughts on Mcafee ?

    thanks for any replies in advance
     
  2. Elvandil

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    Take a look at other Comodo products, too. I've always been happy with them and don't know why they are not used and recommended more. Just installed their Program Manager and it looks good, removing remnants of uninstalled programs and monitoring new installs for complete removal, as well as the ability to reverse an uninstallation if you change your mind and want it back.

    I think I saw a whole Internet Security package on their site. They also have a modified, ultra-secure browser.
     
  3. Cookiegal

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    Well first of all, no one should still be on XP SP2 and especially not a business. I hope that was a typo and you meant SP3. The windows firewall is fine in later versions that have both incoming and outgoing capabilities whereas in XP, it only has inbound, the same as the router firewall so it's advisable to have a third party firewall that can block outgoing connections as well.

    I've heard good things about Comodo and often recommend it here. Here's a link to it:

    http://www.comodo.com/home/internet-security/firewall.php

    I think you are correct with your assumptions of AVG.
     
  4. etaf

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    thanks

    it meets all hes needs , in that he just uses email and sage accounting and a bit of word/excel

    my next issue will be discussing a disaster recovery framework for him - any hardware issues and he will be on windows 7 !!!! and at a time when he least needs it , so migrating to later software will be my next conversation. Along with offsite backups of data and also making sure he has the software to rebuild PCs = but thats all being compiled for an email later in the week - watch out for some more questions
    Especially the backup software and if compatable with windows 7 - all his data is backed up to two harddrives - but using a third party software - so if we changed to W7 how would he recover the data

    That what i thought , but reading some posts here , XP SP2 has some recommendations to stay with the windows firewall - hence the post

    Thanks
     
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    If he's at all concerned about security and the computer is "ever" on the Internet then SP2 is a serious security risk. Why do they not want to upgrade to SP3?

    As for the firewall, some will argue that "if it can't get in then you don't have to stop it from getting out" but infections do get through and drop their payload, opening a backdoor and phoning home. :)
     
  6. etaf

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    Sorry Cookiegal, I'm not 100% sure hes not on SP3 actually - the comment was in response to a thread here that SP2 or later the windows firewall was OK now ???
    so i will check if hes on SP3 or not - thanks

    that was my understanding and the limitations with XP firewall - and getting expert advice from here

    the downside i guess is the nagging and the majority of people just accept, at least that was the case with zone alarm

    thanks again for all the help
     
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    Yeah, I agree that's a problem because it's not always clear what the nag is referring to. If people would only err on the side of "not allowing" first rather than "allowing" everything, then at least if they find something doesn't work because of it they can go back and allow it. :)
     
  8. etaf

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    thanks for the link - no idea why i could not find that on the site dah!!!!!!!
     
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    When you're talking about allowing/not allowing specific services/applications to access the internet you're not really talking about a Firewall - that's a filter. A firewall reacts to traffic requests on specific ports based on a rule set.

    In my opinion - It doesn't really matter as long as you're not hosting anything from the machine and have all incoming ports blocked. The Windows Firewall works fine.

    I wouldn't get anything from McAfee - Ever. I suggest ESET NOD32 for an AV solution. In my experience security suites just slow the machine down significantly while giving a false sense of protection.
     
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    Kinda partial to MSE, and Comodo firewall. I even use the free Comodo Dragon Browser. They all seem to get along well with each other on all 3 of my XP machines, and have for at least a year.
     
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    I'd call that a pretty accurate and correct assessment of what a firewall should do, but there are companies built on the assumption that this isn't true. All the free firewalls are nothing but sales tools for the full (paid) product versions. All the alerts they generate are nothing more than the cast of Monty Python capering in a field saying "Look! Look! We're doing something!"
     
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