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Discussion in 'Earlier Versions of Windows' started by Danboy, Feb 2, 2003.

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  1. Danboy

    Danboy Thread Starter

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    Hello

    I posted earlier about the taskbar problem I was having but now their is a new wrinkle involved. Now all of the icons next to the clock are missing. The Norton icon is gone.. Only icon left is the volume icon. Thier was 3 or 4 different ones but now they are all gone. Could this be part of the Start botton problem from the last post?????????
     
  2. Byteman

    Byteman Gone but Never Forgotten

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    Hi, Check the taskbar properties> right click empty spot near the clock (former clock) and hit Properties....under Taskbar Options, does "Show Clock" and "Always on top" have checks next to them?
     
  3. TonyKlein

    TonyKlein Malware Specialist

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    It sounds like you experienced an Explorer crash.

    Try rebooting; are the icons in your System Tray back again?
     
  4. Danboy

    Danboy Thread Starter

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    Hello Byteman and Tony,

    Thanks for your reply. I checked the 2 boxes and they were checked. The icons have seem to come back after about 6 hours of inactivity on the computer. I guess I will keep an eye on it.

    Danboy
     
  5. Danboy

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    Hello Everyone,

    Logged on this morning and it happened again. After watching it for 3 minutes the web site I wanted (TSG of course) came up. When this happens everything freezes. Also when it freezes the clock does not disappear justs stops working. Thanks for any advice.

    Danboy
     
  6. Danboy

    Danboy Thread Starter

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    Hello Everyone,

    Still having the same problem. Is there a safe way to shut down the computer other than hitting the reset button? When I do that the message comes up about improperly shutting down and may have caused disk damage. I know this hard on the computer but I do not know what else to do. It has froze up 4 times in the last 6 hours. It freezes when I hit the start button. Then while it is froze if I hit a desktop icon all the icons down by the clock disappear.

    Thanks Danboy
     
  7. Byteman

    Byteman Gone but Never Forgotten

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    Danboy- Hitting the Reset button restarts the computer, not sure what you mean by that....you can usually press and hold the Power button to shut down when you freeze up. No way is good, but if you cant shut down, well there is hardly anything else you can do. CTRL ALT DEL dont usually work, either, when system freezes up bad.
    There are quite a few causes of freezing- a list:
    overheating
    power supply problems
    resources- not just memory, but a combination of other things, CPU functions...
    misbehaving programs
    hardware bad
    RAM bad or going bad
    I suppose viruses and worms add to the problem
    SOoooooooooo
    Let's see if we can get a Starup List from ya....
    go here, download StartupList and copy/pase the whole thing into a reply....don't skimp....we do this a lot...

    http://www.lurkhere.com/~nicefiles/
    Win98se, 98, 95 and if its 95 , A B or C?
    What is the computer, a brand name, if so, make and model-
    CPU speed and type....AMD, Intel, etc....
    RAM in megabytes, type, speed if you know it...pc 100, or if SIMMS, is it FPM or EDO, ECC....
    Check system resources....Right click My Computer, Properties, Perofrmance
    Delete Temporary Internet Files, Temp files....use Disk Cleanup
    Scandisk and Defrag
    Run an AV scan if you can. Turn off UNEEDED programs, and screensavers....uncheck "Active Desktop" for better performance.\
    Get the Belarc Advisor www.belarc.com
    You want the Free Download link.....put it on the desktop, run to install, then start the program with the desktop icon that it creates. It's free.
    Will show you much of what I asked for above.
    Check inside, with cover off while computer is on, are all the fans, power supply and CPU and any other fans turning??
    Do you hear anything unusual when computer starts??
    Post the amount of free space and total space of hard drive C: and any others, if more than one drive or disk. Belarc will show this, too.
     
  8. Danboy

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    Click here for Belarc's PC Management products, for large and small companies.

    Operating System System Model
    Windows 98 SE VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363
    Processor a Main Circuit Board
    700 megahertz AMD Duron
    32 kilobyte primary memory cache
    4096 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: http://www.abit.com.tw 8363-686A(KT7,KT7-RAID)
    Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
    BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG 08/25/2000
    Drives Memory Modules
    9.99 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
    4.48 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

    CREATIVE CD5233E [CD-ROM drive]
    NERO IMAGEDRIVE2 [CD-ROM drive]
    SONY CD-RW CRX100E [CD-ROM drive]
    Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")

    FUJITSU MPG3102AT E (10.01 GB) [Hard drive] -- drive 0 256 Megabytes Installed Memory
    128 Megabyte Module Size - 2 Installed
    2 Memory Sockets are Empty
    Local Drive Volumes

    c: (on drive 0) 9.99 GB 4.48 GB free

    Network Drives


    Controllers Printers
    Standard Floppy Disk Controller
    Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
    Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
    VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller HP DeskJet 840C Series on LPT1:
    HP DeskJet 850C on LPT1:

    Display
    NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 [Display adapter]
    Plug and Play Monitor
    Bus Adapters Multimedia
    NERO IMAGEDRIVE SCSI Controller
    VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
    VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller Creative Gameport Joystick
    Sound Blaster AudioPCI
    Sound Blaster AudioPCI Legacy Device
    Wave Device for Voice Modem
    Communications Other Devices
    SupraMax 56i Voice PCI [Modem]
    Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter SUP2750 PCI Modem Enumerator
    Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
    USB Root Hub
    USB Root Hub
    Software Licenses

    Microsoft - Internet Explorer 55736-418-2090055-04626
    Microsoft - MediaPlayer 53199-853-4788152-04359
    Microsoft - Money 2002 55234-OEM-0300506-00000
    Microsoft - Money 2002 55234-OEM-0300506-00000
    Microsoft - MS Office 97 Professional 27397-OEM-0025284-72018
    Microsoft - Windows 98 SE 01901-OEM-0076717-41438 (Key: DMPWM-4PXHP-R6RF6-FRYCW-698QT)

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    Adobe Acrobat Reader Version 5.0.0.0*
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    Armada WONswap *
    Banner Blue Software Incorporated - Microsoft Organization Chart Version 2,0,0,1016*
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    CDKnet, LLC. - CDK Video Player Version 10.1.0.1*
    CNET, Inc. - CatchUp Version 1.3*
    Creative Disc Detector Version 1.55*
    Creative LAVA! Version 2.50*
    Creative Mixer Loader Version 6.01.1*
    Creative On-line Registration System Version 1.0.0.1*
    Creative PlayCenter Version 1.55*
    Creative Recorder Version 1.02*
    CryptoLogic Inc - Casino Version 4, 0, 0, 0*
    Cryptologic Inc. - Upgrade Assistant Version 0, 1, 0, 1*
    DeskPlayer.exe*
    EA Sports - Course Architect Version 1, 0, 0, 0*
    EA SPORTS - TW2003 Application Version 1, 0, 0, 0*
    Electronic Arts (Canada), Inc. - 3DSetup Application Version 2.05*
    Electronic Arts - EA.COM Update.exe Version 1, 0, 0, 2*
    Electronic Arts System Information Version 2, 1, 0, 5*
    EReg Application Version 2, 0, 0, 2*
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    Erik Deppe - DriveSpeed Application Version 1, 6, 0, 0*
    Erik Deppe - Nero CD Speed Version 0, 8, 5, 0*
    Headgate Studios Inc. - Course Utilities Version 2.01.0075*
    Hewlett-Packard Co. - HP DeskJet A.03.01.03*
    ImageDrive Application Version 1,0,0,1*
    Install Heat Software For Online Play *
    InterAct Accessories Incorporation - PROPAD 6 Version 2, 0, 0, 930*
    LucasArts Entertainment Company LLC - The TIE Fighter Launcher Version 1, 0, 0, 1*
    Madden NFL (TM) 2001 *
    MediaRing Talk Version 7.2*
    Microsoft (r) Windows Script Host Version 5.6.0.6626*
    Microsoft Corporation - Clip Gallery 3.0 for Windows Version 3.0*
    Microsoft Corporation - DirectShow Version 6.4.07.1121*
    Microsoft Corporation - Internet Explorer Version 6.00.2800.1106*
    Microsoft Corporation - MSN(tm) Messenger Service Version 3.0*
    Microsoft Corporation - Windows® NetMeeting® Version 3.0*
    Microsoft Excel Version 8.0a*
    Microsoft Money Version 10.00.0809* Microsoft Office Binder Version 8.0.3501*
    Microsoft Office Version 8.0*
    Microsoft Office Version 8.0.3512*
    Microsoft Outlook Version 8.0*
    Microsoft Outlook Version 8.02*
    Microsoft PowerPoint for Windows Version 8.0*
    Microsoft(R) Windows Media Player Version 7.10.00.3068*
    Microsoft® Plus! for Windows® 95 Version 4.40.500*
    Microsoft® Access Version 8.0.4122*
    Microsoft® DirectX for Windows® 95 and 98 Version 4.08.01.0881*
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    Microsoft® Schedule+ for Windows 95(TM) Version 7.5*
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    PepiMK Software - SpyBot-S&D Version 1.1r3*
    PGWARE - PCMedik Version 2.2.6.2002*
    PixAround - PixScreen Application Version 1.1.0.21*
    PixAround.com - PixMaker Version 1.00*
    RealNetworks, Inc. - RealOne Player (32-bit) Version 0.1.0.1599*
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    Spider-Man *
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    Thinking Man Software - Dimension 4 Version 4.2.1005*
    TNN Outdoor Pro Hunter *
    TypingMaster 2002 Version 6.2*
    Virtos GmbH - WaveEdit DLL Version 1, 0, 3, 0*
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    StartupList report, 2/5/03, 6:41:18 AM
    StartupList version: 1.51
    Started from : C:\UNZIPPED\STARTUPLIST151[1]\STARTUPLIST.EXE
    Detected: Windows 98 SE (Win9x 4.10.2222A)
    Detected: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)
    * Using default options
    ==================================================

    Running processes:

    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSGSRV32.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MPREXE.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\mmtask.tsk
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSTASK.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SYSTRAY.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\NORTON ANTIVIRUS\NAVAPW32.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTTASK.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\LOADQM.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\REAL\UPDATE_OB\REALSCHED.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\REAL\UPDATE_OB\RNATHCHK.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DDHELP.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\MICROSOFT MONEY\SYSTEM\MONEY EXPRESS.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\RunDLL.exe
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\MICROSOFT OFFICE\OFFICE\OSA.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\MICROSOFT OFFICE\OFFICE\FINDFAST.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\TAPISRV.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMIEXE.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RNAAPP.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\PSTORES.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SPOOL32.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\HPZSTATX.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\MICROSOFT MONEY\SYSTEM\URLMAP.EXE
    C:\UNZIPPED\STARTUPLIST151[1]\STARTUPLIST.EXE

    --------------------------------------------------

    Listing of startup folders:

    Shell folders Startup:
    [C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp]
    Office Startup.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA.EXE
    Microsoft Office Shortcut Bar.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\MSOFFICE.EXE
    Microsoft Find Fast.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\FINDFAST.EXE

    --------------------------------------------------

    Autorun entries from Registry:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

    SystemTray = SysTray.Exe
    EnsoniqMixer = starter.exe
    Norton Auto-Protect = C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\NAVAPW32.EXE /LOADQUIET
    QuickTime Task = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTTASK.EXE
    NAV DefAlert = C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\DEFALERT.EXE
    LoadQM = loadqm.exe
    MoneyStartUp10.0 = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\Activation.exe"
    TkBellExe = C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe -osboot
    NvCplDaemon = RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
    nwiz = nwiz.exe /install
    Dimension4 = C:\PROGRAM FILES\D4\D4.EXE

    --------------------------------------------------

    Autorun entries from Registry:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

    SchedulingAgent = mstask.exe

    --------------------------------------------------

    Autorun entries from Registry:
    HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

    MoneyAgent = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\Money Express.exe"
    Taskbar Display Controls = RunDLL deskcp16.dll,QUICKRES_RUNDLLENTRY

    --------------------------------------------------

    File association entry for .SCR:
    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SCR_auto_file\shell\open\command

    (Default) = C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.exe "%1"

    --------------------------------------------------

    C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK listing:
    (Created 4/2/2003, 11:6:46)

    [rename]
    nul=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\~e5d141.tmp
    nul=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\~e5d141.tmp

    --------------------------------------------------

    C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT listing:

    SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H7 P330 T6
    SET SBPCI=C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\AUDIO\DOSDRV

    --------------------------------------------------


    Enumerating Browser Helper Objects:

    (no name) - C:\PROGRAM FILES\ADOBE\ACROBAT 5.0\READER\ACTIVEX\ACROIEHELPER.OCX - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3}
    (no name) - (no file) - {1678F7E1-C422-11D0-AD7D-00400515CAAA}
    CSBrBHO - C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMET\INSTALL\TEMP\BRBHO12A.DLL (file missing) - {96DA5BEE-4ACC-476C-B3EC-54C6730C4293}
    (no name) - C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyviewer.dll - {FDD3B846-8D59-4ffb-8758-209B6AD74ACC}

    --------------------------------------------------

    Enumerating Task Scheduler jobs:

    Scan for Viruses.job
    Symantec NetDetect.job
    Maintenance-Defragment programs.job
    Maintenance-ScanDisk.job
    Maintenance-Disk cleanup.job

    --------------------------------------------------

    Enumerating Download Program Files:

    [Shockwave ActiveX Control]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MACROMED\DIRECTOR\SWDIR.DLL
    CODEBASE = http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/director/sw.cab

    [Shockwave Flash Object]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MACROMED\FLASH\FLASH.OCX
    CODEBASE = http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab

    [WildTangent Control]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\WT\WEBDRIVER\WEBDRIVER.DLL
    CODEBASE = http://www.wildtangent.com/install/wdriver/racing/dodgespeedway/microsoft/wtinst.cab

    [WONWebLauncher Class]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\FLIPSIDEWEBLAUNCHERCONTROL.OCX
    CODEBASE = http://212.153.46.5/tools/FlipsideWebLauncherControl.cab

    [{5F03EAB4-1AD5-11D4-AE99-0050DAC24E8F}]
    CODEBASE = http://www.iwon.com/ct/in_wn/iwonslot1,0,1,5.cab

    [iWon Progressive Counter]
    InProcServer32 = C:\PROGRAM FILES\IWON\IWONSLOT\3.BIN\IWONSLOT.DLL
    CODEBASE = http://www.iwon.com/ct/pm2/iwonpm1,0,2,3.cab

    [Loader Control]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLO~1\LOADER.OCX
    CODEBASE = https://gamingclub.microgaming.com/gamingclub/loader.cab

    [{41F17733-B041-4099-A042-B518BB6A408C}]
    CODEBASE = http://a224.g.akamai.net/7/224/52/2...apple.com/qt503/us/win/QuickTimeInstaller.exe

    [sys Class]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\PCPITSTOP.DLL
    CODEBASE = http://www.pcpitstop.com/pcpitstop/PCPitStop.CAB

    [SnoopyCtrl Class]
    InProcServer32 = C:\PROGRAM FILES\EACOM\UPDATE\NPSNPY.DLL
    CODEBASE = http://www.ea.com/downloads/games/common/snoopy/iesnoopy.cab

    [MSN Chat Control 4.0]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\MSNCHAT40.OCX
    CODEBASE = http://fdl.msn.com/public/chat/msnchat4.cab

    [ContentAuditX Control]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLO~1\CONTEN~1.OCX
    CODEBASE = http://a840.g.akamai.net/7/840/5805...ch.com/audit/includes/ContentAuditControl.cab

    [CWDL_DownLoadControl Class]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\CWDL_DOWNLOAD.DLL
    CODEBASE = http://www.callwave.com/include/cab/CWDL_DownLoad.CAB

    [{4E888414-DB8F-11D1-9CD9-00C04F98436A}]
    CODEBASE = https://webresponse.one.microsoft.com/oas/ActiveX/winrep.cab

    [Update Class]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IUCTL.DLL
    CODEBASE = http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/CAB/x86/ansi/iuctl.CAB?37617.1518171296

    [OPUCatalog Class]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\OPUC.DLL
    CODEBASE = http://office.microsoft.com/productupdates/content/opuc.cab

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    End of report, 7,394 bytes
    Report generated in 0.094 seconds

    Command line options:
    /verbose - to add additional info on each section
    /complete - to include empty sections and unsuspicious data
    /full - to include several rarely-important sections
    /force9x - to include Win9x-only startups even if running on WinNT
    /forcent - to include WinNT-only startups even if running on Win9x
    /forceall - to include all Win9x and WinNT startups, regardless of platform
    /history - to list version history only

    Thanks for your reply Byteman. The computer is not making strange sounds. I have not removed the cover but I can hear a fan running. I have the computer set up to run scan disk and defrag at a regular time, but I do not know for sure if it is doing it. The computer is not a brand name, and is about 3 years old. Thanks again for your help.

    Danboy
     
  9. Byteman

    Byteman Gone but Never Forgotten

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    Danboy,

    Excellent job posting the information. I have asked Tony K to stop by and try to sort this out- although I see you have used SpyBot, you still have some Active X components that could be removed, and there is a lot running at startup that can be set not to, such as MS Office stuff, MS Find Fast....
    Between that, Norton AV, MSN Chat, and all else, you seem to have a software conflict. I have to go out and will not be back till late tonite, so hang on for some help, OK?
    If you set up Scheduled Tasks to run at certain times, say 3AM every Wednesday....the computer has to be left on for the task to start. Have you tried the Internet Explorer Repair Tool?
    Control Panel>>Add/Remove Programs>>look for Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0 and Internet Tools>>click add/remove>>
    select "Repair this installation of IE" and run the repair, post what it tells you....either it tried to fix and could not, or it did.
    Then try Intenet again.
    Empty TEMPS not dated within the last few days.

    Empty Temp Internet Files (System Tools, Disk Cleanup).
    Run Scandisk from Safe Mode
    Defrag

    If you use Norton System Work's Speed Disk, do not defrag with Windows defrag, not good to use both back and forth.
    Are you using Norton Unerase, or Clean Sweep?
     
  10. Danboy

    Danboy Thread Starter

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    Hi Byteman,

    Went into and ran repair this installation of IE. It never said weather it fixed anything or not. It acted like everything was ok and rebooted the computer. Emptied temp files and removed programs that I do not use anymore and I am thinking about getting rid of more that I really do not use anymore. Could a screensaver cause this? Most of the MS money and Office were add ons that I got at work and put them on my computer. The only Norton I use is the anti virius. The computer is on all the time. I learned it had to be on for the scan disk and defrag to work on TSG. (see I am paying attention LOL )

    Thanks Danboy
     
  11. Byteman

    Byteman Gone but Never Forgotten

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    Danboy- Excellent idea to remove what you do not need- always uninstal the right way, though, use the programs built in uninstall feature, or Contro Panel, Add/Remove Programs.
    For Norton (Symantec) You can install selectively what you want from your install CD- if you use just the Antivirus, that is fine, long as you keep it updated. I use Win Doctor and find it useful at straightening out Registry and ActiveX things.
    I was not sure what you meant- whether you custom installed as above, or the whole System Works suite is installed now, so posted the info. You would need to remove it all- I am not sure what your version does, whether you can uninstall parts of the suite or not....and then you would need to reinstall Antivirus, Live Update....and, get all the updates from the Net. Take a look in Help for the SystemWorks and see what you can do about uninstalling the parts of the suite you do not use if you have the whole thing installed.
    Office- well, thats your choice, uninstall it if you like. You do not need it starting at Windows startup is all I meant, and the Find Fast feature does not do a whole lot, most people turn it off from starting up at boot, also.
    If you leave the computer on 24/7- your tasks may still not be running, since you use screensavers... which have to be turned off
    for defrag and scandisk to complete....we answer posts about this every day. Some other things running in the background also can affect the tasks. You should reboot once in awhile- to refresh Windows, recover resources, clear RAM.
    Just to check- Open My Computer.....right click Drive C:, Properties, Tools.....what does it say for the last time you scandisked and defragged?? If it is the same as the setting you have for Tasks....the all is OK. If not, it is not finishing.
    Did you mean that your computer is acting right after you ran the repair tool? No desktop problems now?
     
  12. Byteman

    Byteman Gone but Never Forgotten

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    Danboy- Forgot to answer the screensaver question you have.
    They are not usually needed at all these days....old monitors used to require them to keep from having images burnt into the screen, most if not all modern monitors do not require them...unless there is some type I am not aware of, like the new LCD type- anyone have any input?
    Lots of viruses can fake being screensavers, using the .SCR file extension, but your antivirus, if kept updated, should catch most of those....if you scan your downloads before you run or install them.
    They do use resources, as well. Nice toys, though....
    I am still looking over the info you posted....
     
  13. Danboy

    Danboy Thread Starter

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    Hi Byteman,

    Everything that you said I should do is already done. Checked the scan disk and defrag and was done 3-5 days ago. Decided to get rid of my favorite screen saver and so far have not had any problem. I don't understand that either. As far as the words,office and the such, I didn't have it before and I can get rid of it know if I need too. As far as the rest, if you see something that I should get rid of let me know. Thanks Byteman for all your help and Thanks to TSG for the wonderful site.

    Thanks again Danboy
     
  14. Danboy

    Danboy Thread Starter

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    Hello All,

    Thanks to the help from Byteman I thought that we fixed my problem by removing the screensaver. But I was wrong. Press the start button and the computer freezes. Icons on desktop can be opened then they freeze also. It is better, so far 4 hours using computer and has only happened once. Also had MSN as my homepage, tried to open it this morning and it had changed to some screensaver site. Strange. Thought you needed a update.

    Thanks Danboy:(
     
  15. jm100dm

    jm100dm

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    Danboy

    Just to get up to speed. Did you run an up to date scan for viri? Did you remove findfast as it is a major resource hog? Are you running anything to track your resources? How does your startup list look now?

    I researched the following items that were in your startups. None of them are needed and all of them can be unchecked. Unchecking just keeps them from running at windows startup. And any can be re-checked if you like. The programs can be started when needed instead of running all the time.

    Office Startup
    Osa.exe & Osa9.exe
    Resource hog that launches common MS Office components to help speed up the launch of Office programs. Osa9.exe is the Office 2000 equivalent. Some users claim there's no difference with or without it but it isn't required anyway

    Microsoft Find Fast
    Findfast.exe
    Complete utter waste of space! Part of MS Office - searches disk drives for Office file types and creates an index to make opening them easier


    QuickTime Task
    or
    qttask Qttask.exe
    System Tray access to Apple's "Quick Time" viewer from version 5 onwards
    not needed

    Realsched
    realsched.exe
    Application Scheduler installed along with RealOne Player. Runs independently of RealOne Player, to remind AutoUpdate and Message Center to perform their tasks at pre-scheduled intervals. If it can't be disabled try deleting or renaming realsched.exe and then delete the entry in the registry

    TkBellExe
    evntsvc.exe
    -osboot Application Scheduler installed along with RealOne Player. Once installed, it runs independently of RealOne Player. See here for more information, including how to disable it. Also see evntsvc and Realsched
    not needed

    Could this progam be part of the problem?

    nwiz
    nwiz.exe
    Associated with the newer versions of nVidia graphics cards drivers. Allows you to immensely improve desktop layouts by setting preferences and optimizations. However, this isn't necessary for the operation of your system


    I used the startups full list as a reference located at this link.

    http://www.spywareinfo.org/startup_pages/startup_full.htm
     
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