Frustrating Windows Explorer problem....

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Monstrous Mi

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Here is the scenario. Computer is Celeron 1.1G with 256M of RAM, 80G hard drive with 45G free space.

I have Windows 98SE and have rebooted. I open up Windows Explorer. Now I am doing lots of file copying and transferring, mostly digital camera pictures and mp3 files.

I have thousands of these files. If I take a block of say 10 meg of digital camera pictures (about 20 pictures) and transfer them to a new folder, it takes 30-40 seconds. If I do this again with same amount of data, it takes 60 seconds. The more I do this, the slower it takes with same amount of data (i.e. one minute then two minutes). When I try to look into the new folders, it takes 30-60 seconds to display the contents with the hard drive whirring away all the time.

Now, if I reboot Windows, I can transfer quickly again but over a few transfers, it slows to a crawl again.

Anybody have any ideas why this is happening? Maybe some registry setting? Or is this simply because I have thousands of files.
 
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Windows does some stupid things when transfering files like caching them then rewriting them. If you dont have to move the files nothing is wrong. One thing you could try before transferring alot of files is defraging the sytem. Hope this helps.
 
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Disabling the recycle bin can help. Like was said before, windows does some stupid things with the file caches.
 
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As you open programs and files in windows your computer moves information between the physical and virtual memory on your computer it sounds like you have enough physical memory but you may want to look into your virtual memory(page file) settings.
Here you have the option of Letting windows manage your settings or you can set your own custom settings. Right click on my computer and then click properties. On the window that comes up, there should be a performance tab, click it. Then click the "Virtual Memory" button. In the new window that opens you will see the option to let windows manage it (probably already selected) and the custom settings. Click custom and in the minimum feild type something like 300 and for max it is up to you. Click ok. You will want to restart after this
 

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Thanks for the replies thus far.

My main concern is that the time I take to transfer the same amount of data increases each time I take such action. It gets to the point where it is painfully slow.

If I reboot, transferring is once again fairly quick but then degrades.

It is this degradation that I am concerned about. I am suspecting some sort of caching problem but my virtual memory may also be a part of it.

As well, I have a secondary drive that is not functioning correctly. I will disconnect it and see if that could be it but for what reason, I do not know.

I have a laptop with XP and I can transfer files all day long and the same transfer speed is maintained.
 

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I'm one of those computer geeks who has to know every single little problem.

Like I said my laptop doesn't exhibit this tendency and neither do any computers at work. It may be because I have over a hundred thousand files.

I think I am going to start over again with Win2K Professional and partition my 80G hard drive so my data will have its own partition.

I've been looking for an excuse to ditch Windows 98 and this may be it although I don't look forward to gathering all the new drivers and installing all the software I have again.

Oh well.
 
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We have a sayin' here in the south "Ifin it ain't broke, don't fix it". But if you must geek it out remember that all those files on a seperate partition may slow you down even more. "Look up in the sky its a bird, no its a plane, no its Geek man" hehe i could not resist, resistance was futile........ lots of luck you'll need it.
 
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Do you have IE6 ?
Take a look here :

http://forum.mvps.org/viewtopic.php?t=2580

from MS Newsgroups :
(a) You may do Copy/Move/Delete at a Windows DOS (in a box) Prompt, without the instability & retaining LFN's. (That is not true of any other DOS, e.g., Restart in MS-DOS Mode will kill LFN's.)

(b) Perhaps some 3rd party program can do these things well.

(c) There is an experimental fix for that, at the following thread. You will need the DLL's from MSIE v5.50.sp2. Basically, move the IE6 versions of Browselc.dll & Browseui.dll from "C:\Windows\System\" to the
folder that contains IE6 (IExplore.exe), which is "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those DLL's into "C:Windows\System\".

(1) Indubitably do a full system backup. (Hey! You should have one, anyway.)
(2) Move the IE6 Browselc.dll & Browseui.dll from "C:\Windows\System\" to "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\". This way, IE6 will still use these DLL's, v.6.00.2800.1106.
(3) Copy the v5.50.4807.2300 DLL's to C:\Windows\System\. Now, Explorer will use the v.5.5... DLL's of MSIE v5.50.sp2.
(4) Reboot. Try a massive copy or delete. Write a detailed report and
post to the group.

This is experimental; use at own risk; I've read of no serious problem yet. The following thread reports, you lose the ability to lock the toolbars in Explorer. Anything else? (I have chosen not to do it myself,
as I simply don't live by massive Copy/Delete's. [OK, I'm a scardy cat too, but that's secondary.])
Actually, remove or move and copy files is the same problem.

I NEVER use Explorer, I use Total Commander as file manager.
You can also use Winfile.
Both programs do not have such problems.
Explorer LIES on folder contents, just search for index.dat and desktop.ini files with the 3 tools, it's amazing.
 
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