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Discussion in 'Random Discussion' started by Kirkland, Dec 24, 2001.

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  1. Kirkland

    Kirkland Thread Starter

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    I'm home in time for Christmas, crazy airlines stripping off my boots and all.
    So I'm going through my mail @ 4 this morning and there's this announcement from Freei-rewards. The gist of it is I got Norton SystemWorks 2002 Professional Edition from Freei-Rewards (for being a good customer) for the amazingly low price of...get this...
    $29.99 (with FREE shipping)! Talk about falling into it-Zounds!
    *I"ll of course be checking on my tracking # after about a week or so but think of it, a $300 Norton SW2002 set for $30-Zounds again!
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    I'm ashamed of a few of you, those who would abuse your rights to express yourself to the only bonified Muslim this list has ever known (unless?). What you guys did to this Mafud guy is worse than what you do to each other. Worse, he said you would do what you did and act like you did and guess what? You went on and did it anyway, proving his point.
    How dumb.

    You never heard a word he said, probably because he is ~not~ either Christian or white. You ~never~ listened to him, just fired off your big guns, kind of like we did in Afghanistan.
    *Did you notice we stopped the bombing, this time because we ran out of targets?

    He told you all there was another way to look at the Middle East problem: how we white guys think and what the other side thinks. But no, you went on and showed your butts, closed your minds to what he was saying in order to spout the "white guy line." I posted about the East European Khazar Jews some time back, noting they were today's "Jews" and ~not~ related to the Jews of the Bible.
    Somehow or another, he failed to mention their names but did say the Jews of today were Eastern Europeans, which seemed to tick off a few of you when you realized he was telling the truth.

    America's new patriotic zeal is making America and many Americans more rigid, less tolerant, more critical of other's opinions. That's a damn shame too, when what we really ~need~ right now is real dialogs, not the near mindless spouting off of derisive, condescending talk I read. ________________________________________
    Anyway, I get in my car this morning and go to the store. Coming back outside, I see something strange: tread, on my tires? I don't have tread-on my tires, not ~that~ much tread at least... but it ~is~ my car... my Christmas present!
    Brand spanking new XH Michelin radials, a whole set, on my car-For Christmas! Hot Damn! The wife done-good! It's a good thing I paid off her Sears charge card last week to kind of make Christmas shopping a little easier for her but new Michelins!
    *The mystery is: who the hoot drove my Lesabre over to the tire store? I know she didn't because though she loves to ride in my big boat, she thinks it's obscenely large and simply refuses to drive it.
    "Hmmm, wonder who it was?"
    Wasn't Santa `cause he don't like Buicks buicks either.

    "And to all a Merry-merry and a Happy!"
     
  2. deuce

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    You might want to check into that a little more, (just because it is too good to be true) but you might have just saved $270. If this is a company you do business with a lot and you trust them, then it might be true.
     
  3. SavvyLady

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    you know what??? I don't understand any of this fussing about race & / or religion.

    Its about terrorism.... nothing more.

    everyone keeps bringing other stuff into it.
     
  4. hamster

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    Buick???? People still drive Buicks????? wow
     
  5. Kirkland

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    Then you wouldn't mind me calling three months of unremitting bombing military "terrorism"? Would you call what Israel does secular terroism?
    Did you know the official name for what we in the United States Army Infantry did was called T&I?
    (The intials stood for (Terror and Interdiction).
    On T&I missions, we deliberately broke things and killed people (and other living things) just for the hell of it... and got medals and ribbons if we did it well enough.
    Or are you inferring that the "secular" bombing we did isn't a form of terrorism? We in the United States regularly export terrorism, or enable others to be, or become, terrorists.

    No, it's really all about what the "West" has done over the past five-hundred years to different peoples and the price we Americans probably will pay for our continued economic brutality and political hubris; all in the name of "peace."
     
  6. Kirkland

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    The LeSabre Buick is among the world's ten best automobiles for reliability, customer satisfaction and service. The (my) LeSabre is also a very safe autombile to be strapped into in a head on collision...if the collision happens head-on with a Toyta (anything, including a LEXUS), the Toyota DIES.
    *My wife and me were sitting at an intersection, waiting to make a left turn into a McDonald's. An inattentive driver (full sized Saturn) rear-ended us, breaking hard but still traveling at an estimated 12-15 mph when she made contact. Our Buick suffered an 87% loss (totalled), but we drove into McDonald's, I took my shot then drove the LeSabre home 218 miles.
    The rear doors were sticky and the bumper and its shock absorbers were toast, but the trunk was not damaged.
    They hauled the demolished, thus undriveable Saturn away by wrecker.
    The insurance check for the damages to the Buick nearly beat us home.
    *Curiosity make me ask this: have you ever driven a ~fuel-injected~ 3800cc V-6 Buick? Ask you uncle to let you drive his injected Lesabre. You'll be amazed-astonished.
     
  7. hamster

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    Hey meanie, You're too uptight man, If you are concern about safety than drive a Hummer... Why bring up safety issues??? we are talking about a new era... and unfortuanty Buick is not on tips of everyone tonque's right now....

    I was making a little joke, but guess you take everything soo seriously.. how many buicks do you see out there on the road????


    P.S here is my car that I drive, make fun of it all you like... I won't stress myself out or take everything so seriously... life is too short for that.




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  8. marioh

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    I had an 89 Buick Century Limited and that car was great !

    That Buick would smoke my 97 Maxima off the line, no doubt about that.

    It was a rocket car in the disguise of a family sedan. :D
    I miss that car. :(

    Enjoy that Buick Kirkland, I know that I did when I had one.
     
  9. SavvyLady

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    kirk I call it what it is... defense & war... no matter how you spell it.
    But what has that got to do with my statement about racism & / or religion


    its not who you are or where you come from.... its what you do that counts..... and I don't mean for a living.
     
  10. deuce

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    Hummm... I totally missed that whole part 2 thing. It looked like your sig and I didn't feel like reading it because it is so long... and now I don't know why I did. Are you just trying to start a debate on this whole race/religion/terrism thing? Fine, argue that again.
     
  11. Dark Star

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    I can see where this thread is headed so here is my dos centavos.

    I've always owned GM products I'm not about to change the way I think about GM products because of one bad experience.
    Last year I decided to get rid of my Chevy Blazer 4x4 primarily out of concern due to rising fuel prices..

    ....I thought I'd give a nice GM sedan a go and I told the salesperson (a lady) I was looking to buy something with low milage and I did not much care about whether it was a Chevrolet or a Pontiac or what it was as long as it was a GM vehicle.
    I did want a midsize and performance.......well I didnt want something that would not get out of it's own way.

    She called me the next day and told me of a " Buick Skylark Limited" with 26,000 miles on it they had just gotten in trade. I went over and drove it and I was impressed with a 3.2 V6 it seemed to "make tracks" I bought the thing and I paid about low book on it.

    The good and the bad.......

    I'm still driving it everyday but very carefully, because at 30,000 miles and "out of warranty" the engine light came on and I took it in they serviced the transmission and turned the light off.....
    I drove it to Phoenix, AZ the following week and almost had it towed in from 60 miles out of Phoenix. The engine light came back on and the transmission was slipping in overdrive.
    I spent $900.00 at the GM dealership in Phoenix and they replaced the valve body and turned off the light again, I drve it home where the engine light came on once again a week later.

    The "thing" I'm told needs a new transmission because I burned out the clutches, so all in all I can't really tell you just how it is performance wise because hitting passing gear once would "kill it" and fry the clutches so I drive it very slowly.

    The dealer I bought it from wants $2800.00 for a new transmission and tells me I threw away $900.00 in Phoenix......nice guys heh?
    I now have 40,000 miles on it and have never been stopped for speeding (that is the up-side)

    I am rolling dice and driving it to this day, but I can't say that I trust it to live much longer. I do not wish for anyone to get injured or hurt in anyway, however I am looking for an inattentive driver in a full sized Saturn to rear-end my Buick so it can finally be put out of it's misery. :D

    btw, The Buick Performace days are long past.

    http://www.gnttype.org/general/perfhistory.html
     
  12. deuce

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    We have mostly owned GM vehicles and finally with this last one our trust in GM has ended. It seems they just don't last anymore. Sure you can put hundreds of thousands of miles on it like you are supposed to, but it falls apart piece by piece each year. Cars should last at least 200,000 miles should you keep it that long and at 100,000 it should just be getting broken in. DS you shouldn't be having many problems with that Buick at 40,000. My opinion if you want a good performing and long lasting car get an import. The Japanese do very well in the area of cars. My dad owns a 1990 Mazda Miata (the first model year) and we have spent absolutely NO money on it EVER except for an oil change every 6000 miles or so and filling the gas tank and other fliuds as needed. Nothing has been replaced on it EVER and it gets at least 30 mpg city and can out run the average V-6. It goes 0 to 60 in about 6 sec if you shift right, and the suspension is so stiff it's a dream and the transmission feels like it was tuned yesterday. It has a 7 gal tank and only needs to be filled once a week at like $7.50 a pop. My dad is not a car person so he doesn't take care of it at all except for not trashing it. The engine is covered with a layer of dust and grease about half an inch thick. Insurance on it is $19/month... so all in all... it costs about $45/month to run and is also a fun car. He also had this '82 Mazda 626 that was the same way. That one got at least 40 mpg. In '98 the engine blew a rod and we got rid of it which was a big mistake. That car was just like the Miata in that it was low maintance and never required a dime except for oil, gas and the brakes were replaced once. That car had maybe 200,000 miles on it and so went that long only needing a brake change. I used to lease a 98 Nissan Pathfinder up until the lease ended last march, and in the 2 1/2 years I had it I never put in any money except for gas and maybe 5 oil changes. Hondas last long too but I never had one. Sorry to ramble but I just wanted to throw in my two cents.
     
  13. SavvyLady

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    I too have always preferred GM products. Til we bought the one we have now.Bought a brand new 97 Cavalier... Tea I know its the el cheapo...but never had a new car before & dang it cost to much to consider anything else.
    This car at less than 12 or 13 hundred miles the ignition locked up when I was out of town & had to have a rental for 3 days . course it was covered by the warranty. But what an inconvenience. Then at less than 28000 miles odometer reading.... we had to put a rack&pinion in it. Then soon thereafter another ignition switch & then a oil light signal sending unit. Its also developed a miss/skip... & they replaced 1 wire to the plugs. It didn't fix it either. But they can't find it on the computer when they try to diagnose it. so they refuse to do anything. Its got less than 40000 on it & i feel like we are driving a time bomb waiting to explode. Can't buy another as times are very hard right now... only owe 7 more payments then after a while maybe.... but this one is a bad one. Other people I know have em & highly recommend them. I guess we got the one they packed the bad luck in.
     
  14. deuce

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    That is the same with us. All previous GMs went great until this last one. In 97 we got this one (a Chevy) and since then it seems there is one major repair needed a year and several minor ones. The car doesn't have quite 70,000 on it yet and already we have replaced the engine (yes... the engine) all four tires twice (because the car refuses to stay alligned and wears the tires down bad) the brakes, all the angle arms, (or whatever it is they are called) had the electronics overhauled twice because things keep shorting out, and that is just what I can remember off the top of my head. I'd say on average that car sits in the shop on 4 or 5 different occasions a year. And worst yet the resale went to zero years ago so it is hard to get rid of. :mad:
     
  15. Dark Star

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    deuce,

    Good point about imports, I like most of them quite well and aside from the "Yugos" (remember those?) they were akin to a BIC lighter.
    I think there might even be something to be said for the "Kia"...........I don't really know what to say about them but maybe someone here has or had one and does.

    I was just talking to a friend about real muscle cars the likes of we've not seen since about the early 70s.
    I purchased a new 72 Z28 Camaro that was the real deal in the performance dept.
    We talked about his 68 Road Runner, another "real deal" performer.
    Buick made a GS that was also the real deal and Oldsmobile made a 455 big block with a four speed that turned mid 11s in the 1/4 mile out of the box
    Pontiac made "The Judge" and those came with a factory Hurst 4 speed that kept you in the "reclined position" thru the 1/4 mile as well.
    Ford had a stable of Boss 351 Mustangs and they were no dogs either.

    You have to remember these 1/4 mile times were done with crappy Polyglass belted tires that went up in smoke quite easily

    What all these Detroit Muscle Cars had in common is they lasted many many miles of hard driving people could actually work on them and parts were plentiful and cheap.

    This piece of c**p Buick I drive today has no less than 5 sensors inside the transmissions valve body, that's right electrical connections deep inside the transmission and you have to drop the engine raise the car just to get to the bell housing.
    The $50.00 overdrive sensor went out and therefore I fried the overdrive clutches.....
    It gets better because after 97 model years you absolutely have to have the $2000.00 Snap-on brand or equivalent to pull the error codes out of it to try and determine why the engine light went on to begin.
    The 97 GM font that plugs into it costs $250.00. Having said that, once they pull the code a #2190 (I know it well) it refers to "Overdrive clutch slippage".....that really nails it down to the problem at hand don't it?

    This Buick thing is also a hybrid 1/2 American SAE, Metric and whatever odd else GM felt like doing that year.
    One thing for sure there is no longer a need to carry tools in the trunk, just have "Towing" coverage is all you need today.

    DS
     
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