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Hard disk space keeps decreasing on record even if I'm deleting files

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Irina, Oct 7, 2004.

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  1. Irina

    Irina Thread Starter

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    Hi. Not so sure this is the right place for this. If it's wrong, I apologize, and hope someone will be so kind as to direct me to the right forum or help me anyway.

    I've been burning DVDs and deleting files off my computer, but instead of increasing the hard disk space, the free space report when I go to My Computer and click on C: keeps decreasing. Is there a way to refresh it and check what's going on? I've been installing some apps, yes, but none so large as to take something like 7 GB of space all at once.

    Thanks so much!
     
  2. telecom69

    telecom69 Gone but never forgotten

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    It is a lot of space I agree but these DVD'S do take up lots of space,take it you are getting rid of them and not keeping them on your computer? also if you keep music files on the computer you should think about thinning those out,also any programmes you have that you never use etc what operatingsystem are you using Irina? If its XP take a look down this page lots of info on how to regain space http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/expert/northrup_restoreperf.mspx
     
  3. DaveBurnett

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    Er , you are emptying the recycle bin, aren't you??
     
  4. xgerryx

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    If using ME or XP system restore might be hanging on to a bit of space as well.
     
  5. slingshotter

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    Hi Irina, and welcome to the TSG forums.

    If you're using the protected Recycle Bin feature from Norton (if your Recycle Bin has the letter "N" in a shield on it, you ARE using it), you'll have to right-click it and empty it. Norton PRB keeps all deleted files on the drive, unless you FORCE it to empty the PRB.

    You can also RESIZE the Recycle Bin, so it takes up less space. Just right-click the RB, choose "Properties" from the context menu, and move the slider to the 1% setting, which is MORE than enough space for the Recycle Bin.

    Also, open My Computer, open Control Panel, open Internet Options, then find the Temporary Internet files section on the first (General) tab. Click on the "Delete Files..." button, put a check-mark in the "Delete all offline content" box, then click on the OK button.

    Next, go back to the Temporary Internet files section, click on the "Settings..." button, and change the MB setting to 10 MB from whatever RIDICULOUS size it is already set at; that is a MAJOR waste of space on your system, and there is no reason to allow all of those junk files to clutter your harddrive. All they REALLY do is slow down CheckDisk / Scandisk (depending on your OS), Defrag, and who knows how many OTHER system utilities.

    Of course, there are a countless number of viruses which are designed to replicate themselves, and they can fill ANY harddrive rather quickly, so you might have several problems to deal with here.

    Add to that the space hogged by the M$ System Restore "feature", and you can lose a fair amount of your hard drive in no time at all.

    Good luck; let us know what happens when you change those settings and empty the Recycle Bin.

    -- slingshotter
     
  6. Irina

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    I do use XP indeed.

    I definitely delete files off the Recycle Bin, at least one every time I boot the computer. I clean it out several times a day, in fact.

    I once had Norton Systemworks installed and that did place Norton Protect on my Recycle Bin. I've since uninstalled that (had problems with it) and installed Norton Antivirus on its own, instead. Now, the Recycle Bin doesn't indicate any Norton Protection.

    However, as I was running defrag, I found this:

    Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
    654 4.31 GB \RECYCLER\NPROTECT\00002567.nrg

    Clearly it was a leftover. I immediately ran a search through C:, but I couldn't find anything. It didn't even show up when I hit "Show hidden files and folders" in Options. I finally just typed in C:\RECYCLER and found 10GB worth of files. I deleted the NPROTECT folder.

    Still, the amount of stuff I've deleted doesn't seem to be reflected in the overall free space on my HD. It's about 4 GB less than it used to be, and I haven't added anything large. So now I'm wondering if there are any more folders, like that, completely hidden from view and unsearchable, but taking up space. Are there any tricks at all that can be used to find such?

    Having had problems with Norton, I removed protection from my computer for a day and a half. Then I had pop-up problems, which made me think I had been hit by spyware. A report of my computer's state:

    I've run spybot and adaware and have found lots of other things, too, though I'm loathe to delete stuff just because I don't know which are connected to the freeware programs I run.

    Does spyware work the same way as some viruses, taking up huge amounts of space as well?

    I ran a full system scan on my computer early this morning and the updated Norton found no viruses. It simply warned me of adware too. Tried to use the Norton option to delete them all, but it failed to clear out some.

    I've reduced the System Restore space to 1.064 GB. Is that enough?

    Thanks for all your suggestions thus far. They've been very helpful. I'd appreciate any further insight you can provide.

    Oh, and on a tangentially related matter, I was going through the article you linked to, telecom69, and I saw that it's best to backup before making huge changes. My system tools don't include a Backup button, however. I'm on XP Home. Does it really not come with that feature?

    Thanks very much. :)
     
  7. telecom69

    telecom69 Gone but never forgotten

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    You said .....

    I've reduced the System Restore space to 1064 GB. Is that enough?

    Well read this below

    Disk Space for System Restore
    To use System Restore, you'll need 200 MB of free hard disk space, which is used to store the data gathered for the restore points. If you don't have this much free space, System Restore will disable itself until the space becomes available. System Restore will create and save restore points until this space is full, and will then begin writing over itself beginning with the least recent data.

    200 MB isn't a lot of room to store restore points. Allocating more space will result in better protection and performance. I'd suggest allocating the maximum amount available. To allocate more than the default 200 MB of disk space to System Restore:

    1.
    Click Start, click Control Panel, click Performance and Maintenance, and then click System.

    2.
    In the System Properties dialog box, on the System Restore tab, use the slider to increase the allocated disk space, and then click OK.


    If you're using more than one drive on your system, follow these steps:

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    Click Start, click Control Panel, click Performance and Maintenance, and then click System.

    2.
    Click the drive you want to monitor, and then click Settings.

    3.
    In the Settings dialog box, shown in Figure 1, use the slider to increase the disk space, and then click OK twice.



    As you can see if that figure you have allocated System Restore is true, 1064 GB ? You can reduce that amount significantly ......
     
  8. telecom69

    telecom69 Gone but never forgotten

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    Regarding your log,put a tick by the following and after closing all open windows have hijack FIX them

    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://websearch.drsnsrch.com/sidesearch.cgi?id=
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://websearch.drsnsrch.com/sidesearch.cgi?id=
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://websearch.drsnsrch.com/sidesearch.cgi?id=
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://websearch.drsnsrch.com/sidesearch.cgi?id=
    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = http://websearch.drsnsrch.com/sidesearch.cgi?id=
    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch = http://websearch.drsnsrch.com/sidesearch.cgi?id=
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchURL,(Default) = websearch.drsnsrch.com/q.cgi?q=
    R3 - URLSearchHook: IncrediFindBHO Class - {5D60FF48-95BE-4956-B4C6-6BB168A70310} - C:\PROGRA~1\INCRED~1\BHO\INCFIN~1.DLL
    O1 - Hosts: 12.129.205.209 search.netscape.com12.129.205.209 sitefinder.verisign.com
    O2 - BHO: MultimppObj Class - {002EB272-2590-4693-B166-FBD5D9B6FEA6} - C:\WINDOWS\multimpp.dll (file missing
    O3 - Toolbar: (no name) - {0E1230F8-EA50-42A9-983C-D22ABC2EED3B} - (no file)
    O3 - Toolbar: (no name) - {2CDE1A7D-A478-4291-BF31-E1B4C16F92EB} - (no file)
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WebRebates0] "C:\Program Files\Web_Rebates\WebRebates0.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [conscorr] C:\WINDOWS\conscorr.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Win Server Updt] C:\WINDOWS\wupdt.exe
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Web Rebates - file://C:\Program Files\Web_Rebates\Sy1150\Tp1150\scri1150a.htm
    O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - (no file)
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - (no file)

    Also delete these in safe mode


    C:\Program Files\Web_Rebates\WebRebates0.exe

    C:\Program Files\Web_Rebates\WebRebates1.exe

    And this one too if you can do without it....

    C:\Program Files\Messenger Plus! 3\MsgPlus.exe
     
  9. Irina

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    Did everything except the Web Rebates thing because I haven't started in safe mode. I allocated 1064 MB, not GB. Hopefully, that's enough.
     
  10. telecom69

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  11. DaveBurnett

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    Half that is plenty, unless you watch online movies.
     
  12. Irina

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    Thanks for the link for backing up on XP Home, telecom. Since my XP came bundled with the laptop, though, I don't have a CD-ROM for it. Does that mean I have no option to add backup?

    And I only watch video clips online, and even then, very rarely. I'll reduce it a bit more. Thanks, Dave. :)
     
  13. telecom69

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    Other Backup Alternatives
    The Windows Backup utility is handy and free, but it's not your only backup choice. Depending on your preferences, you can choose all sorts of third-party backup solutions. For instance:

    • Want to back up your e-mail and nothing else? Try OutBack Plus 4 or the Microsoft Outlook Personal Folders Backup Utility if you use any version of Microsoft Outlook, or use OE Backup for Outlook Express. These programs specialize in helping you keep safe copies of your messages and addresses.

    • Want the option to restore your entire hard drive in case of a crash? Drive imaging tools like PowerQuest Drive Image 2002 can take a virtual snapshot of your disk, compress it to a single file, and save it for quick recovery later.

    • Worried that fire, flood, or theft will wipe out your backup copies along with your computer? Consider paying a few dollars a month for online backup alternatives like Xdrive Plus or @Backup, where you can upload your most important files for storage on a secure server.


    Naturally, you always have the option of copying important files to removable media. With CD-RW drives and their 650 MB-per-disk capacity, that's an attractive option. In fact, just about any backup program is preferable to doing nothing and hoping that your data will magically take care of itself.
     
  14. Irina

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    For now, I'll just be backing up on DVDs, I think. Thanks very much!
     
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