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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by devilxdog, Jan 26, 2006.

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  1. devilxdog

    devilxdog Thread Starter

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    Okay guys, this is my first time building my own PC. I started putting it together and everything was fine, until the part where i had to connect my PSU to everything, and also, I have no idea how to get my power button to work and temperature display working.

    I tried connecting all the wires from the PSU and got them in, plugged in the power chord, and only got power to my mobo. I have no idea why I'm not getting power to anything else, am I just connecting everything wrong?

    Specs:

    FSP Group (Fortron Source) FSP550-60PLN EPS12V 550W Power Supply
    RAIDMAX X1 ATX-909WBP Black/ Silver Case
    Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    eVGA 256-P2-N517-AX Geforce 7800GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Manchester 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core
    OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM
    Asus A8N5X Motherboard
    Liteon SOHW-1693S 16X Dual Layer DVD±RW Drive (Black)

    I really wanna start gaming with this thing... Any help will be appreciated!
     
  2. dickster

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    I would double check the wiring from the front panel. On my first build that gave me all kinds of problems. Pay close attention to the + and - marks on the wires. Refer to the manual for the motherboard to be sure you get them right. Also be sure to use the jumper to clear the cmos, and be sure it gets back on the right pins to run.
     
  3. crjdriver

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    Nice selection of parts. It is good that you did not use a raidmax ps. Raidmax makes OK cases, their ps are junk however.

    Are you getting the system to post? Your post says you are getting power to the mb but not anything else. If you post your exact problem, it would help.

    Here is a list of things to do with a problem build. It has some useful info on it.

    What to do with a “Problem Build”

    First are you getting the board to post [power on self test] If yes follow the first set of instructions

    Board posts however there are lockups, bsod, cannot install windows

    1) Since it posts, check your temps in the bios. It is very difficult to say what a “Normal” temp should be since each type of cpu [P4, Athlon, AMD64, etc] has a normal temp. What you should see in the bios is a stable temp of <55C. If the temp is much higher than that, you probably have the heatsink fan installed incorrectly.

    2) If the temps are ok, pull all cards from the system except the video card. Disconnect any peripherals such as printer, scanner, usb hub, etc. Is it stable now? If so you have a problem with a piece of hardware or its driver.

    3) Test the memory with a tester like memtest86. Just because you see a memory test during post means nothing. All that does is check to see if the memory is there. It does not check each memory address. Note this test is run from bootable media ie CD or floppy; there is no need for an operating system to be installed.

    4) Power supply. A modern P4 or AMD64 needs a quality power supply. It is difficult to say what wattage you will need since this is dependant on many things; the number of fans, the number of hard drives you have installed, the type of video card you have installed, amount of ram, etc. A bare minimum would be in the neighborhood of 350W. The power supplies that come with many cases [however not all] are junk. Since modern systems make a very high demand on the 12V rail of the power supply, what you are looking for is something around 20+ amps on the 12V rail. Some good brands of power supplies are Antec, Enermax, Enlight, Sparkle, and some models of Coolmax. There are other quality units, however those are what I use in my builds.


    You assembled the system, and it will not post


    1) Remove EVERYTHING from the case
    2) Set the motherboard on a non conductive surface. The motherboard box is perfect for this. .DO NOT PLACE THE MOTHERBOARD ON THE STATIC BAG! The outside of some of these can actually conduct electricity! We are going to try and assemble a running system outside of the case.
    3) Install the CPU and heat sink.
    4) Install the RAM (only install 1 stick for SDRAM, 2 for RDRAM)
    5) Install the video card. Do make sure the card is FULLY seated.
    6) Connect the monitor to the video card.
    7) Connect the power supply to the motherboard.
    8) Connect power to the power supply
    9) Do NOT connect ANYTHING else. Make sure you have the power connector on the CPU fan connected.
    10) Use a small screwdriver to momentarily short the power switch connector on the motherboard.

    If all is well, it should power up and you should get a display. You now have found you have a mounting problem. The board is shorting to the case. If not, then you most likely have a faulty component. You will need to swap parts with known good units ie power supply, cpu, ram, video card.


    How to mount a new board in a case

    1) Remove the IO plate from the back of the case.
    2) Place the board in the case and use something like a sharpie or a pencil to mark the case where you will need to install the standoffs.
    3) Remove the board and install the standoffs.
    4) Install the IO plate
    5) Place the board on the standoffs and slide it into the IO plate. Secure it with the screws provided with the case.

    Just a reminder do not buy cheap parts!!!
    I have one rule.

    Quality hardware and properly installed software do not lockup, bsod, reboot itself, etc
     
  4. devilxdog

    devilxdog Thread Starter

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    Okay, before I read this, I had the mounting problem, forgot the stand-offs but realized that only a few minutes after I posted. Now it seems that I have another problem. Everytime I turn on my new PC. so I can start the BIOS setup, it seems that it locks up, and my keyboard seems to lose its power because the lights flash, and then thats it.

    Before I connected my HD, DVD drive, and Floppy, I was able to go into BIOS setup, and my keyboard worked. So I tried removing all the connections from them and trying it, and I got the saem result.

    Any ideas why this would happen? And is there any way to stop this?
    **

    Edit.. nevermind, I'm an idiot, and noticed I connected something wrong when I went to check it out. Everything is fine now. I'm just my own enemy that works too fast.
     
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