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HJT! hits the big time..

Discussion in 'Virus & Other Malware Removal' started by e-liam, Sep 28, 2003.

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  1. e-liam

    e-liam Thread Starter

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    Hi everyone,

    Good news.

    Hijack this has made it. :) It's on the cover disc of PC Utilities, a UK based computer magazine.

    Bad News.

    It is described thus
    It's the genuine hijack.zip file v1.96.0. I ran it to make sure. It comes with no instructions, no disclaimer and no warning as to what can happen if the wrong entries are deleted.

    I think we can all guess the worst case scenario. Treat everything scanned as harmful and delete the lot. I know Merijn put a few words of advice on top of the main screen, but that was meant for the likes of us, rather than a home user.

    I look at these logs, day in day out, and I still have to ask occasionally for advice from others, and I think in varying levels that this applies to pretty much everyone except, possibly, Tony or Pieter. We all come across an entry we haven't seen before, and that's with the advantage of knowing where to look. How's a beginner going to get it right. :confused: The good thing is that it is bundled on a double CD with a thousand other utilities etc., so hopefully not many will find it. I found it because I was looking for it.

    Just thought I'd let everyone know in advance of the likelyhood of people screwing up their computers and coming here for help.

    There are a 1001 utilities on the two discs, some I know, most I don't. I think it pretty certain that others on it could carry the same potential for PC decimation, if not used properly.

    The magazine is in circulation so it's pretty pointless emailing anyone to let them know, so I thought I'd keep it our little secret. :) (y)

    Prepare to busy undoing botched HJTs. Just 'cos we know HJT makes backups, doesn't mean your average Joe will. As I say, there's no instruction with it.

    Cheers

    Liam
     
  2. $teve

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    Since when did WE issue a disclamer:D

    1001 utilities and half of them will install foistware you can bet.

    Hi ho hi ho.......you all know the rest im sure:D
     
  3. NiteHawk

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    Thanks Liam. By any chance is there an online link to that article?
     
  4. e-liam

    e-liam Thread Starter

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    Morning Nitehawk,

    No.. there wasn't an article. The only part of that from the magazine was the set quote. The rest was my fair hand.. :)

    That's what I meant. :D Could you in all concience give someone a copy of HJT! to use, with only the above tag line to advise? :(

    Here is teh link to the magazine's site..

    http://www.livepublishing.co.uk/content/pcutilities.shtml

    But I've had a quick trawl and can't find even a copy of the list of all the programs. I might go through a few and see how many you may be right about, Steve re: foistware. It's a shame I can't get the full list off the net. I'm not tping it out... there's 14 pages, all in something like font 2. :D

    I think??? that with Spybot's immunize set as secure as possible, it should warm me of any problems at the unzip stage.

    Cheers

    Liam
     
  5. NiteHawk

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    I agree that it could cause problems. To the average user who is used to a virus scan producing the results of BAD files to be deleted, taking that same thinking to HJT could be a formula for desaster. It's like giving them a loaded gun to shoot themselves in the foot!! Except with HJT it creates a backup so you can restore. No one has yet found a way to restore a bullet to the chamber.
     
  6. e-liam

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    Hi Nitehawk,

    The only problem with the backups is that we know it does them. Some admittedly come out on the desktop, but mine don't. The odd entries that I've fixed on mine are assuredly somewhere on my computer and I know this, but where they were put at the time is another matter. :)

    The difference being that if I needed to, I could find them and restore. If someone doesn't have the default for their backups to be placed on their desktop, in all likelyhood they wouldn't even know they existed. Now that would be a problem. I just hope that it doesn't mean any bad publicity for HJT! because it certainly does what it says on the tin.. IF you know what you're doing with it.

    It's used almost exclusively in around 5 or 6 forums. Maybe 10 to 15 people, give or take, on each can actually analyse the logs accurately. That's a little less than a hundred people in the world... ish. Okay that may be a little on the low side, but hopefully you get the gist. :D

    It's basically a specialist tool, and if it was a 36" chainsaw, you'd never be given one to try out, without being given at least some basic training, because the chances are you'll get it horribly wrong... (is that the worst metaphor you've ever seen, or what?) :)

    Cheers

    Liam
     
  7. NiteHawk

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    The most common reason that people can't find HJT backups, or any other files on their PC's, is they haven't heard of 'Tree Structured Directories', let alone practice the concept. For those that came out of the DOS era or have worked with UNIX, it should be second nature. But for those that got into PC's with Windows 98 and later (especially XP) many have no clue where to put things or how to organize a HD and just 'let things fall where they may'. Have you ever seen anyone that has 100+ icons on their desktop?
     
  8. e-liam

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    A hundred DT Icons.............:eek: :p

    I could tidy it up, but I guess I'm just plain lazy... :)

    You can of course always use this to demonstarte the wrong way to do it....
     

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    I'm sure glad that isn't your start up list!! :D :D :D
     
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