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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by pfiltz, Aug 5, 2006.

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  1. pfiltz

    pfiltz Thread Starter

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    I bought a system from Tiger Direct last December. Runs OK. The machine is a 3.x Ghz system, celleron chip

    I ordered it with an IDE drive. I bought a SATA drive this week to install it in the box from Tiger Direct, for this system, and low and behold the freak'n MB doesn't have any SATA connectors for it. I guess since I ordered an IDE system. DUH,,,, NO expandability ?

    SystemMax is the Mfg of the box.

    Geeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    OK, now to my question.

    I would like to buy a MB and Processor to replace the one I have in the box. Fairly short looking MB, as I suspect most are now a dayz.

    I'm running CS2 and want something with some Ommmmpffff to it. Can anyone recommend a supplier for a MB, Processor? I'd like to use the RAM from this box instead of buying new RAM.

    Regards,
     
  2. seekermeister

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    I will leave the recommendations to others, but I was wondering if you had considered installing a SATA controller card...it would be cheaper.
     
  3. pfiltz

    pfiltz Thread Starter

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    No, I didn't get that far yet. I'm still pretty much steamed that some mfg would probably save .20 buy not throwing a SATA connector on the MB. Geeeezzzzzz

    Thanks for your input though.
     
  4. accat13

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    Well be careful If I were you and I was going to get a sata controller make sure its sata 2 ...If your new drive is only sata 1 maybe they will let you return it and upgrade it to a sata 2...After reading up on this abit more unless you have a PCI Express 1x slot it may not be worth your while...Interesting read about bus speeds http://www.directron.com/expressguide.html
     
  5. pfiltz

    pfiltz Thread Starter

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    I'm not too sure if the Drive is SATA2. Here is the info on it.

    Western Digital WD360
    S/N: WMAKH1251403

    I may go to WD's website and see what I can find on it. I bought a SATA2 Adaptec card last night at Best Buy but haven't opened it yet.
     
  6. win2kpro

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    I believe before anyone can help you, you need to identify the motherboard. Go to
    http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html and download and install EVEREST. EVEREST will give you most all the system information.

    If you are considering major modifications, you should make a list of the modifications you want and what the cost will be. In the end it MAY be better and more economical to sell the existing machine and just build a new machine with the items you want.
     
  7. pfiltz

    pfiltz Thread Starter

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    Wink...Sure, I would just rather buy a new MB and Processor, and RAM, and throw it into this case, if at all possible. I just went to WD's website, and I think my new SATA is not SATA2. The Adaptec SATA card is SATA2 though.

    Here is the everest data

    Motherboard:
    CPU Type Intel Celeron D 345, 3066 MHz (23 x 133)
    Motherboard Name VIARAMA U8568 (Pro)/U8668 (Pro)/U8868
    Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8751(A) ProSavageDDR P4M266(A)
    System Memory 1504 MB (DDR SDRAM)
    BIOS Type Award (12/28/04)
    Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
    Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

    Display:
    Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000 (128 MB)
    3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000
    3D Accelerator S3 ProSavageDDR
    Monitor Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 91TXM (TFW9105) [21" CRT] (712703009768)

    Multimedia:
    Audio Adapter VIA AC'97 Enhanced Audio Controller

    Storage:
    IDE Controller VIA Bus Master IDE Controller
    Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
    Disk Drive WDC WD800BB-22JHC0 (74 GB, IDE)
    Disk Drive WDC WD3000JB-00KFA0 (127 GB, IDE)
    Optical Drive LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S (DVD+R9:4x, DVD-R9:4x, DVD+RW:16x/8x, DVD-RW:16x/6x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/24x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW)
    SMART Hard Disks Status OK
     
  8. seekermeister

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    I believe that all WDC harddrives have 2 letter suffixes to their model numbers. The only thing that I saw was a WD360GD, which if that is yours, it is a 36GB Raptor. I have never had one, but it is the highest performance EIDE drive on the market. However, it would not work on a SATA connection.
     
  9. pfiltz

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    This is correct but it is a sata 10,000 Rpm drive and that is sata 1 not an eide drive. Not to worry as that drive is faster than any sata 2 drive made anyway, buy the controller card you will like what you see. A sata 2 card will work backwards with sata drive.
     
  11. JohnWill

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    The 36gig Raptor is not a SATA-II drive.

    I'm curious as to why your so upset with Tiger, since you got exactly what you purchased. :confused: If you wanted a SATA capable system, you should have purchased one.
     
  12. seekermeister

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    Oops! I was wrong. The Raptor is a SATA,
     
  13. win2kpro

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    The point I was trying to make is this;

    New motherboard ? Price
    New processor ? Price
    New memory (if needed) ? Price
    New SATA drive ? Price
    SATA controller ? Price

    If you make additional modifications will your power supply be sufficient for the installed hardware?

    Since you intend to change the motherboard you probably will have to purchase a new operating system.

    All I'm saying is to check all your desired modifications before starting so that you have a good idea as to what the actual completed price will be.
     
  14. pfiltz

    pfiltz Thread Starter

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    Thanks Win2K.... Understood

    John, Yes, I did order a System with a "ide" drive. What I didn't know, shame, shame, shame on me, is that I can't expand on it without controller cards, and running through hoops.

    You would think, or I did at the time, that a MB bought in 2005 [Dec], would have had a SATA connector on it.

    Oh, then I give them the S/N, and knowing I want to buy a Sata for THAT MB, and they don't bother to even tell me that it doesn't have a SATA connector. Why bother with the Freak'n S/N then.?

    Rich: I made sure I was going to get a 10K or 15K drive anyway ;) Just wasn't sure about using it on a controller for SATA2. I just don't want to plug it in, use that controller card, and lose performance since it's not a SATAII drive..

    Thanks for everyone's input .


    Live and Learn.
     
  15. JohnWill

    JohnWill Retired Moderator

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    I doubt the order processors at Tiger know a SATA drive from a June Bug. :D
     
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