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Interesting story on file sharing

Discussion in 'All Other Software' started by starchild, Jul 8, 2003.

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  1. starchild

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  2. Flrman1

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    TY Starchild(y)
     
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    CNN Is still a little slow-Filtopia is not new, neither is Blubster. ANd they skipped Freenet, the truly untracable anonymous one.
     
  4. starchild

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    Thanks for the update.

    You know people who never knew about this, or thought about it before are now going to, and look into it.

    I believe there is a "power of the internet" that, if enough people online join in something they would be unstoppable.

    And, enough people online are aligned with what's good, and right and fair so this would only work for good.

    oh... maybe CNN knows about Freenet, but doesn't want to spread it around? LIke they wanted to tell the overall story, but not advertise annonymous file sharing? Maybe they own or own interest in record companies?

    My own belief is, if someone buys a CD, they should have the right to share tracks off it with others. You can go to libraries and bring home CDs and tapes and copy them and bring them back. you can buy them used in record stores (and I don't imagine the artists get royalties from this).

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    I suppose something good and powerful could come out of it-but Freenet (The anonymous P2P program) is just a big load of child porn right now. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened to Blubster now that its anonymized.
     
  6. starchild

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    I tried to download Freenet and it keeps saying the page is unavailable.

    Maybe because a lot are downloading it right now?

    It hasn't been closed down?

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    Same thing happening here-but I'm pretty sure its not closed down. Its so decentralized, there really isn't a way to close down the whole network.
     
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    It's still not working

    I saw this on their page:

    Users contribute to the network by giving bandwidth and a portion of their hard drive (called the "data store") for storing files. Unlike other peer-to-peer file sharing networks, Freenet does not let the user control what is stored in the data store. Instead, files are kept or deleted depending on how popular they are, with the least popular being discarded to make way for newer or more popular content. Files in the data store are encrypted to reduce the likelihood of prosecution by persons wishing to censor Freenet content.

    How do I know they're not taping into whatever is on my harddrive?

    Or does it set up a strictly separate file like Kazaa and Shareaza, etc. seem to do?

    If I didn't want a file in it to be shared (for whatever reason) I couldn't just take it out? I couldn't delete it?

    Does that mean they would put files ON my hardrive (like porn, for example) without me knowing it?

    Is there a list anywhere of the "known" groups and artists that are supporting taking file sharers to court?

    I know Madonna and The Dixie Chicks were mentioned (and Mettalica previously- there was a boycott against them, but I don't know how effective it was).

    Seems like The Dixie Chicks have enough bad feelings, and were being boycotted because of their remark about being ashamed to come from TX where the president is from, and didn't Madonna sleep with guys for food/place to stay when she was just starting out?

    She's already seen what the backlash from this can do.

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/madonnasplash1.html

    I don't think anyone who has music anyone else actually wants is starving because of this.

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    Yes, it puts files on your hard drive. But they are not the actual files that are being shared-they are encrypted, partial versions of the files and an ID number.
    It is mainly the RIAA/MPAA that is fighting file sharers.
     
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    Do you know how much it puts on the hd?

    I only have 8 gb and have it pretty much filled up as it is.

    I don't really use file sharing all that much anyway. And mostly for "oldies" where the artists probably don't get anything from it, even if it was bought.

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    You can choose how much hard drive space it takes.
    You probably won't find a lot of music-especially oldies on freenet. It really is mostly child porn.
     
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    I'm thinking we should all boycott the recording sales for 1 month to give them an idea of what the backlash could be!
     
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    Now there's an idea!:D
     
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    I actually thought about starting a new thread just to propose that! :cool:
     
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    Yes I just voted on your poll bassetman. I know that there are a lot of people out there that never buy music. I for one being a musician must admit that I download music from Kazaalite. I have an extensive CD collection(between 500 and 600 legally purchased) and even though I do DL some I still prefer the factory CD's with the covers and info. I just bought 4 last week through BMG music service. Most of what I DL is stuff i wouldn't have gone out and bought in the first place unless of course I found it in a bargain bin some place for a couple or 3 dollars. I go to pawn shops frequently and find mint condition CD's for $2-$3 each. The record industry isn't getting a cut of that.
     
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