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involuntary standby - please help!

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  1. dogtired

    dogtired Thread Starter

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    Hi, I'm having a problem with Win 98SE.
    The PC keeps going into standby all by itself, even tho i've set power mgmnt scheme to 'always on'. I've tried this with Bios APM set to both enable and disable.
    It will do this while online, while offline, while working in Dreamweaver, Photoshop...all sorts. Sometimes being online prevents it from going on standby, sometimes not.
    I've run virus checks with f-secure...nothing found.
    Recently re-formatted and re-installed O/S...still happens( once prgrms are loaded.)
    The system is:
    Gigabyte 71XE4/AMD chipset
    AMD K6/2 750
    NVIDIA TNT2
    SB Live
    USB Modem
    128mb Ram.
    Has anybody else had similar problems?
    I've run a search here, but don't think it can be overheating as it does it almost right away first thing in the morning.
    Please help...
    Regards.
     
  2. $teve

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    hi dogtired,welcome to TSG....does it do anything else that it shouldnt......like re-booting or locking up?...do you get error messages at any other times?
    also,your 128megs of ram,is that in 1 module?
     
  3. dogtired

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    Hi Thanks for replying...
    Yeah I get the following W98Se error message:
    WAOL caused a general protection fault
    in module USER.EXE at 000f:00001842.
    Registers:
    EAX=0000030c CS=176f EIP=00001842 EFLGS=00000616
    EBX=00000347 SS=383f ESP=00008804 EBP=0065887e
    ECX=00000000 DS=16d7 ESI=00000000 FS=3747
    EDX=0000ffff ES=0cef EDI=00000186 GS=015f
    Bytes at CS:EIP:
    26 ff 37 9a 00 10 df 17 89 46 fc 89 56 fe 52 50
    Stack dump:
    19e317cf 8001217f 00000000 02ac0200 0000023c 0002fc7b 023c02ac 00000000 23a80000 00000000 00653747 0065fe28 bff7186d 88461b77 00000000 383f8846
    (sorry)
    'Waol' can be whatever prog i'm running, ie 'Dreamwvr4' 'Iexplore' etc., so the problem is not program-specific.
    Sometimes you can move the mouse/hit the keyboard and the system will resume as if you'd wanted it to go on standby, sometimes you have to hit the reset button. It depends whether the moon is aspecting Jupiter, etc...
    Does this give you any more info?
    Regards,
    Dogtired.
     
  4. dogtired

    dogtired Thread Starter

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    Hey! You're a manc too!
    I should've guessed...the yanks aren't awake yet :)
     
  5. $teve

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    well..........not a manc acctually,im just outside accrington:)

    ok,lets see if we can help here.
    have you tried getting it to run in safe mode?
    re-boot and hold down the cntrl key.
    if you can get it running without errors in safe mode we can narrow down the problem.im at home all day (flu) so ill be around in here.
     
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    Best flu cure=teabag+hot water+1 sachet of extra-strength lemsip+whiskey (add to taste). Repeat till too pissed to care.
    Yeah, the computer runs fine in safe mode.
    In fact, it's been running fine for the last couple of hours.
    I switched on at 8.30am, loaded Dreamweaver, began working and...STANDBY.
    Did it a few times. Now it's fine.
    You even get the error message ...user.exe....this program will be closed...and it doesn't close. Sometimes.
    I'm trying to write our new music site but this is such a pain in the bumhole.
    Any suggestions?
    Peace.
     
  7. $teve

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    ok,so its fine in safe mode.
    not sure how techie you are here ok,so if i sound like im talking to a 4 year old its nothing personal...just let me know;)

    IN SAFE MODE!
    go to,start/programs/accessories/system tools & click on system information,on the tools menu click the system configuration utillity.
    on the general tab click selective start-up and clear these checkboxes
    Process Config.sys File
    Process Autoexec.bat File
    Process Winstart.bat File (if available)
    Process System.ini File
    Process Win.ini File
    Load Startup Group Items

    click ok and re-boot in normal mode.
    let it run and see if everything is ok.
    then,remembering how to get back to the system configuration tool,add back each item you de-selected,one at a time,re-booting normally and testing after each one then come back in here and we will continue.
     
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    dont clear the selective stat-up box yet!
    oh.....by the way..........i was on your "cure" last night......and indeed it works fine:p
     
  9. $teve

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    in fact it may be the reason i cant spell "START" this morning:rolleyes:
     
  10. dogtired

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    Hi Steve...here are the results so far...
    I started from scratch and no problems, tho I couldn't test any graphics programs as that's what i'm working on when standby happens.
    I got to the point where I could have 16-bit colour so I could use Dreamweaver and bang!goodbye.
    This was after 'Process system.ini file' - other 2 are as yet unchecked.
    Error message:
    DREAMWEAVER caused a general protection fault
    in module USER.EXE at 000f:00001842.
    Registers:
    EAX=0000030c CS=176f EIP=00001842 EFLGS=00000616
    EBX=00000347 SS=2faf ESP=00008c18 EBP=00a38c92
    ECX=00000000 DS=16d7 ESI=00000000 FS=222f
    EDX=0000ffff ES=0cef EDI=00a30186 GS=015f
    Bytes at CS:EIP:
    26 ff 37 9a 00 10 df 17 89 46 fc 89 56 fe 52 50
    Stack dump:
    1a8f17cf 8001217f 000000a3 587b0100 00000001 000160bc 00f60101 00000000 24b8222f 00000000 00a3222f 00c7fe28 bff7186d 8c5a2137 00000000 2faf8c5a
    I'm beginning to think it must be a hardware conflict or dodgy drivers.
    After re-formatting the hard drive, I dl the latest drivers for the Nvidia graphics card and the shitblaster.
    Are we getting anywhere?
    I'm fairly techie - I have another PC I use for audio which took alot of tweaking to get running fairly stable....but you're talking to me at about the right level- cheers!
     
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    anything else running that can be terminated?im trying to get your resourses down a little so we know its not memory related,its almost definately down to video......we are not too far away.
     
  12. dogtired

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    ctr+alt+del reveals:
    AOL
    Explorer
    Rnaap
    MSCONFIG startup=
    Well, nothing at the mo as we've changed the startup file!
    Normally, systray, and f-secure.
     
  13. $teve

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    oh yeah!........your ram...........128 meg........in 1 stick or more?
     
  14. dogtired

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    Just checked (Ididn't build this):
    1 stick Pc133 noname (tho it's dark in there)
     
  15. $teve

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    its down to your vid card,dont suppose youve tried re-installing it at all?
     
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