1. Computer problem? Tech Support Guy is completely free -- paid for by advertisers and donations. Click here to join today! If you're new to Tech Support Guy, we highly recommend that you visit our Guide for New Members.

Looking for an Android user guide

Discussion in 'DOS/Other' started by calvin-c, Nov 26, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Advertisement
  1. calvin-c

    calvin-c Banned Thread Starter

    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Messages:
    1,098
    I've found lots of tutorials for developing Android apps, but not for administering Android. That's probably because it used to be pretty much phones but now it's moving into tablet PC's. (Although PC is technically a misnomer when the tablet runs Android.)

    Can anybody suggest a good tutorial for learning to manage Android? I'm not really interested in developing for it, but my wife keeps asking me how she can do this or that-and I don't know how. (An example which I did learn how to do was change the network so it would connect both at work & at home.)

    Thanks.
     
  2. Squashman

    Squashman Trusted Advisor

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2003
    Messages:
    19,786
    Most of what you can do is all in the settings app. If you need to know something specific just ask. Think this question would be better served in our Phone category. You can click on the report link and ask to have this thread moved to ther.
     
  3. DoubleHelix

    DoubleHelix Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2004
    Messages:
    24,388
    There's no "generic" version of Android on a tablet. The Honeycomb interface on the Xoom and Galaxy Tab is vastly different from the cheap no-name Gingerbread tablets. The Barnes & Noble Nook and Kindle Fire each have their own version of Android and function very differently.
     
  4. calvin-c

    calvin-c Banned Thread Starter

    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Messages:
    1,098
    I'm really not interested in Phone issues so it seems to me that 'Other OS' is the correct category. An administrator may decide differently, of course.

    What I want is to know-not know where to ask, but simply to know. Perhaps it's as you say that pretty much everything you can do is under settings. If so then Android seems to be pretty limited & probably not ready to be considered a real OS.
     
  5. calvin-c

    calvin-c Banned Thread Starter

    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Messages:
    1,098
    Although often listed as tablets the Nook & Fire are eReaders, IMO. As such I'd expect them to be different-but what you say about the Xoom & Tab surprises me. I wonder if I can rent different tablets to try them out? I'll have to look into that.

    Thanks.
     
  6. DoubleHelix

    DoubleHelix Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2004
    Messages:
    24,388
    The Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire are not eReaders. They're tablets. They run apps, play music and movies, and can be used to read books. The Nook Simple Touch and Kindle Touch and Keyboard models are eReaders.

    Android is very much a fragmented operating system. Every tablet and phone has a slightly different interface, and there are huge differences between Gingerbread and Honeycomb. There are also significant differences between first-gen Froyo Google sanctioned tablets and the no-name cheap tablets running Android that often don't even have the Android Market available.

    You can download a generic Android Gingerbread user guide here, but there are definitely going to be differences on your device.
    http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=182077
     
  7. Squashman

    Squashman Trusted Advisor

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2003
    Messages:
    19,786
    So now we have to define what an OS is?

    I don't think you can look at a Phone and say you need to be able to use it like your PC. I think that is what you are thinking. You don't need all the things on a phone that you need on a pc and vice versa. Most of the things you will want to do on your phone will probably require an app.
     
  8. calvin-c

    calvin-c Banned Thread Starter

    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Messages:
    1,098
    Squashman, as much as I respect you I do think there's more to an OS than settings. File management for one thing-it might be my paranoia but I just don't expect all apps to manage themselves-particularly when it comes to uninstalling them. Good ones do, but I don't expect that all the apps will be good-and if the OS version changes then that might cause even more problems. (Think how screwy things can get when an app written for 32-bit tries to install/uninstall on a 64-bit system.)

    JMO but if you're going to have a category for Other OS then yes, I do think you need some sort of definition of what constitutes an OS-but if you want that to include Phone' OS then that's OK, the 'definition' that excludes those is JMO. I definitely agree about the difference between a phone & a PC though-I'm just expecting that tablets will be more akin to a PC. Maybe experience will prove me wrong.

    DoubleHelix: It seems to me that the difference between Gingerbread & Honeycomb is to be expected, just as it was expected that there would be a difference (in terms of system administration at least) between Windows XP and Windows 7. I may have misunderstood what you said about the Xoom and Tab-I understood you to mean that the same major version of Android had been implemented differently on them. And I definitely appreciate the link-now if I could only find a similar one for Honeycomb. Thanks.
     
  9. DoubleHelix

    DoubleHelix Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2004
    Messages:
    24,388
    You didn't misunderstand me, but I think you're misunderstanding the tablet market in general.

    Different hardware manufacturers customize the same version of Android. It's called a "skin", and every manufacturer and/or carrier has one.

    Honeycomb was an interim Android release specifically for a very narrow set of tablets. It's not open source or available for use on any other devices. That's why you can't find a generic guide for it. You have to refer to some sort of user guide for your specific device.
     
  10. calvin-c

    calvin-c Banned Thread Starter

    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Messages:
    1,098
    Ahh, didn't realize that about Honeycomb. I understand about skins-back in the early Windows days different manufacturers sold their PC's with different skins, although they weren't called that then. (IIRC they were just called front-end applications or something like that. The only one I specifically remember is Packard Bell's Navigator, but there were several others.)

    Possibly the difference is in applying a skin as an app vs 'applying' it by customizing the OS. I also remember pre-Windows days when you could find some manufacturers who customized DOS-one PC I had (don't remember the make) replaced command.com with their own version. I see the two methods differently-if you customize the OS then you remove the ability of the buyer to 'de-customize' it without total replacement. (Which is what I eventually did on that DOS machine, reformatted the hard drive & installed a generic version of DOS I bought. Very unhappy at having to buy an OS for a machine that came with one but they'd customized it until few apps but their own would run on it.)

    With a skin applied on top of the OS it's quite possible to uninstall it & get back to the generic OS-which I did with Packard Bell's Navigator. Looked OK (house metaphor IIRC, with rooms containing groups of related programs, like a Game Room that contained games, but made it difficult-to-impossible to maintain the software.

    Just read about Honeycomb-amazing what info you can find when you know what to look for-and see that ICS is supposed to be open. I think I'll wait for that. Thanks.
     
  11. DoubleHelix

    DoubleHelix Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2004
    Messages:
    24,388
    There's no guarantee that you'll be able to install Ice Cream Sandwich on your tablet. That's up to the manufacturer.
     
  12. calvin-c

    calvin-c Banned Thread Starter

    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Messages:
    1,098
    Pretty much how it is with Windows-although Windows now has generic drivers that work with most devices, but it used to be up to the manufacturer to update their drivers before you could install a new version of Windows.

    If I can't upgrade the tablet to ICS then I can replace it. Either way upgrades 'me' (actually my wife) to ICS.
     
  13. DoubleHelix

    DoubleHelix Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2004
    Messages:
    24,388
    It's not like Windows. Windows updates are made available exclusively through Microsoft. Dell and HP do not have customized versions of Windows that require them to provide all upgrades themselves.

    Obviously if you toss out your currently tablet and buy a brand new one, you've "upgraded" to ICS. Most people wouldn't put that in the same category as applying an update to their existing tablet.
     
  14. calvin-c

    calvin-c Banned Thread Starter

    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Messages:
    1,098
    I agree-most people wouldn't but I'm not most people. I focus on the result, not the process.

    Regarding Windows, you're right & you're wrong-how's that for an unambiguous answer? First there's the difference between Windows now & Windows when I started using it (about 1989). Windows now has generic drivers that come from Microsoft-and most manufacturers also supply drivers via Microsoft, but not all. (Although the cases I can think of where there are no generic drivers that work are mostly peripherals, not the PC itself.) Since Android tablets seem to be pretty new I think a comparison to Windows 'then' is more appropriate-and I replaced at least a couple of computers because the manufacturers didn't provide new drivers that were needed to upgrade to a new version of Windows.

    And not everybody would see needing new drivers to be the same as needing a new version of Windows-but I still focus on results. If you can't run the new version of Windows without the new drivers then the technical difference doesn't matter-you still need the manufacturer to provide something (or replace the machine) before you can upgrade to the new version.
     
  15. DoubleHelix

    DoubleHelix Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2004
    Messages:
    24,388
    I would encourage you to learn more about Android and tablets. I'm not sure the comparisons you're making are applicable.
     
  16. Sponsor

As Seen On
As Seen On...

Welcome to Tech Support Guy!

Are you looking for the solution to your computer problem? Join our site today to ask your question. This site is completely free -- paid for by advertisers and donations.

If you're not already familiar with forums, watch our Welcome Guide to get started.

Join over 733,556 other people just like you!

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Short URL to this thread: https://techguy.org/1028501

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice