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  1. smcc3

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    Hi my last license for MS Word has run out and I can't afford to pay this years license, but I really need it to get college work done. Can anybody recommend a free version of MS Word that I could use on a windows computor???
     
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  3. Cookiegal

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    There is no free MS Word but there are free alternatives, one of which was suggested above.
     
  4. britekguy

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    There is also a huge grey market for recycled MS-Office licenses on eBay and Amazon. And, yes, some of these are entirely legitimate. A relatively large cottage industry has sprung up in the EU subsequent to court decisions that declared that software licenses could be resold regardless of terms forbidding same, which were declared invalid.

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    On the Grey Market (for Software Licenses, specifically, but anything, really)

    First, if you want to have as close to 100% certainty as is humanly possible that you are not in any way engaged with any dishonest activity, even if it’s not your own, then do not purchase on the grey market. The moment you step outside of standard retail channels, be they brick and mortar stores, online stores, or direct from manufacturer online you have stepped out of the realm of certainty of everything being above board.

    As soon as you decide you will purchase anything outside those channels, there is a degree of uncertainty involved. There are things that may give you a sense of how certain/uncertain you can be about the legitimacy of an item, but even those are never perfect indicators. If someone’s offering something at 90% off, and has no long-term reputation, you should be reasonably certain that they’re not legitimate. But, even then, there’s a tiny chance they could be. Only you can decide where your line lies as far as avoiding engaging, even at distance, with dishonesty and what your obligation is to protect third parties that could be harmed because you might be purchasing something stolen or otherwise illegitimate. For most of us, we’re not looking at 90% off and the nature of the seller’s actions and motives are decidedly less clear.

    When it comes to software licenses, my personal opinion, in this day of the ability to create nearly perfect counterfeit packaging, is that if I purchase other than through conventional retail channels I simply cannot have any way of knowing with certainty as to whether something is real or counterfeit, even if I do my due diligence. In the case of a software license, which is typically a sequence of numbers and letters on a card (at best) or sent to me via e-mail, I can have even less certainty. The only entity that can, and should, have that certainty is the one that issues licenses and verifies same before allowing use of their software.

    My ne plus ultra metric of the legitimacy of a license is whether the authorizing entity does authorize/verify/authenticate/activate when this is presented to them via the means they prescribe. If they do not know whether the license is valid or not, I certainly cannot be expected, as an end-user, to know that.

    There are definite risks involved with grey market licenses. Whether those are acceptable to you is something only you can decide. The worst I have seen happen is that a license gets deactivated by the issuing entity after having initially been authenticated by them, sometimes leaving you with non-functional software, other times leaving you with functional, but unauthenticated and sometimes limited-functionality. You are faced with the loss of the money you spent for the license, and the time and money you will likely spend acquiring another license. You must decide if these are risks you want to face, and be aware that “the cheaper the price” compared to full retail the more likely they are to occur and the more likely the item is black market, not grey market.

    Some references in regard to reselling software licenses and legal changes in the EU:

    EU court rules resale of used software licenses is legal -- even online Computer World – July 3, 2012

    EU Court Says, Yes, You Can Resell Your Software, Even If The Software Company Says You Can't Techdirt.com – July 3, 2012

    Top EU court upholds right to resell downloaded software Ars Technica – July 3, 2012

    European Court Confirms the Right to Resell Used Software LicensesBrodies.com – January 1, 2012

    Can you resell software licenses? The latest legal position in 2016 The ITAM Review – October 31, 2016

    A direct result of the above legal decisions has been the creation of both a cottage industry for small business computer recyclers and a major industry for large ones of selling recycled licenses. The former, while almost impossible to verify their honesty except through seller ratings from past customers, do exist as legitimate resellers. The latter, one example of which is Relicense in the EU, are big businesses used by other businesses. It’s almost impossible to question the legitimacy of companies such as these, as they’d have been put out of business by licensing entities if what they were doing was illegal. They’re high-profile and high-dollar businesses.

    The grey market should only be entered after you clearly understand all of the variables discussed above and have decided where your acceptable tolerance levels are for each, and for all of them in combination for any given transaction.

    You now have the basic information you need to decide if you wish to enter the grey market at all, and how to assess the probability of whether something is actually grey market versus black market (which is definitely no longer grey). Proceed as your reason and conscience dictate.
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    I have personally used the grey market for numerous Microsoft Office licenses over the years as well as my own Windows 10 Pro license.
     
  5. Johnny b

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    Just adding, there is much open source and freeware available for the casual and home user.
    Naturally, it's best to locate supportive reviews both for the quality of the product and the integrity of the download source before committing to it .

    Linux is of course mostly free.
    But even MS has several jewels for free download. MS ICE being one I've put to good use.

    These are old lists of free MS apps and there are broken links with age. I suspect there are lists for Win 10, but I don't use Win 10 for much these days and OBS Studio ( A free app ) is mostly it's focus.

    https://blakehandler.wordpress.com/...windows-xp-software-resources-from-microsoft/

    https://blakehandler.wordpress.com/...-windows-7-software-resources-from-microsoft/

    And there are browsers, drive imaging and cloning apps, simple image editors like Irfanview and Paint.Net available elsewhere.
    And many free office packages.

    Why risk malware just to save a buck when legit free versions are often available.
     
  6. britekguy

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    The most MS-Office-Like replacement I've found, specifically in terms of the UI, is SoftMaker Office, which does also exist in a free version, FreeOffice 2018.

    As far as malware goes, I would never use an installer for MS-Office obtained from anywhere other than Microsoft itself. Much like there is a Windows 10 Media Creation Tool, Microsoft has webpages for the installers of all currently supported versions of MS-Office where even those other than the most current (Office 365) can be downloaded.

    At any time I've purchased a grey market license, even the instructions from those sellers have always directed me to the correct Microsoft download page for the installer software.

    As a general rule, if you are not being directed straight to the original source for the installer for anything you should think very long and very, very hard before installing it. I have on very rare occasion had to resort to third party sources for really ancient software, but I can count on less than one hand the number of times that's been the case in over 25 years. Most software makers keep archival access to their stuff even long after it's out of official support.
     
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    That doesn't guarantee the key being sold is legit.
     
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    No, it doesn't. But:

    1. That wasn't under discussion.

    2. A bad key does not result in malware.
     
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    You introduced the 'gray market' .

    You even mentioned the possibility of losing an investment on a bad key.

    You posted:
    It simply isn't wise to lead the novice down a path they seldom understand.

    And there have been examples posted at TSG, seeking help concerning individuals buying KMS keys, to cracks involving faking genuine installs to downloads from disreputable sources.

    There is even a concern of how many times has a specific used key been sold and used.

    From what I've seen at TSG since I first joined in 2002, malware is associated with novices seeking unreasonably cheap software.

    Some get lucky, the rest seek help.

    I don't think it's wise to be condoning a 'gray market' concept at a help site.
     
  10. britekguy

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    And, again, we will have to agree to disagree.

    The risk factors associated with the gray market are pretty clearly outlined in my previous post on same. I am not here to be a nanny to users, novice or not, but to give them the information needed to make informed decisions and to solve issues they're having.

    I have used the gray market for years, without issue. It is not inherently unsafe to do so if you do so with due diligence.

    And the way one arrives at understanding is through willingness to experiment. One simply has to do so with an understanding of the risks involved and to make an effort to avoid them.

    No one becomes an expert at anything without taking risks and sometimes failing along the way.

    A learning experience is one of those things that say, "You know that thing you just did? Don't do that."
    ~ Douglas Adams (1952-2001)
     
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    It's not about what you do, it's about what you essentially condone.

    I, too can do things, legally, but refrain from discussion because administration deems it a negative for this site.

    Your experiences are those of an expert, not those of the novice.
     
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    What I condone is really up to me, isn't it?

    The gray market exists, and people are going to use it - period. I have taken my leave from another well-known technical forums site because there is the "official position" that the gray market does not exist and that anything that's not a commercial outlet is black market. Everyone knows that this is not true, and I gave direct references to the technical press that make this clear.

    It is incumbent on those who know the risks to discuss them, and to educate on how to use the gray market should one so choose. Suppressing discussion of same simply pushes it underground, which serves absolutely no one.

    And, as I said, the only way one becomes an expert in anything is through direct experience. There has to be a starting point, for anything. We were all novices at everything once.
     
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    Publicly?
    Not up to me or you.
    Mostly the owner of this site.

    What you do on your own time is of course, your business.
     
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    In response to complaints received and after reading the content posted here I think we need to set the record straight.

    This site strives to encourage users to comply with the license agreements and/or terms of service of the various vendors/authors of software or services available and to respect copyrights. We don't condone or support piracy and will not assist users fix problems with pirated software, whether it be the operating system or other third party programs or applications. Users should always obtain their software and licenses from the author or authorized vendors in order to avoid potential issues. Many of the licenses sold elsewhere may be considered legitimate but if they are OEM and are not sold with the original hardware (meaning pre-installed on a computer) it's still a violation of the licensing terms.
     
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