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oddling

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Yo. My Mom is getting a new computer, and she's looking at those tiger direct ones. I configured this possibility, thinking they could run Half Life 2, Far Cry, and Doom 3 fine. If there are computers with more bang for the buck, please help me out. Here's how I configured them.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=704727&CatId=1307
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/configdetails.asp?Base=704727

Desktop Computers Build To Order




Systemax™ Venture® C26 Intel® Celeron® D 330 2.66GHz Processor / Microsoft® Windows® XP Home / 128MB RAM / 40GB HDD / CD-ROM Drive / Build-To-Order Desktop PC





Item No. BTO 988259

PRICE:
Quantity


Usually ships within 3 - 5 Days






Creating your own built-to-order PC is simple using our web configurator. Simply select the button beside the component you would like added to your custom PC. Our price updater will automatically tally up the total for your customized PC based on the components chosen. Once you've made your final selections, simply click on any of the add to cart buttons.

*Please note that the image icons below are not representative of the component. Actual product image may vary.



Processor



Intel Pentium 4 Processor 2.8 GHz 533FSB w/ 1MB Cache (Add $119.99)



Operating System

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition w/ Service Pack 2



Memory
512MB DDR333 PC2700 Non-ECC Memory (512MB x 1) (Add $79.99)



Hard Drive

IDE Hard Drive 80GB (7200 RPM) Ultra ATA (Add $9.99)



Optical Drive

16x (max) DVD ROM Drive (Add $10.00)



Second Optical Drive (cannot be same as primary)

52x32x52 CDRW Drive Black (Add $34.99)


Video Card
ATI Radeon 9800SE 128MB AGP with TV-Out (Add $149.98)



Sound Card

Integrated Audio



Modem
56K V.92 PCI Data/Fax Modem (Add $8.00)



Network Card

Integrated 10/100 Network Adapter



Keyboard
Logitech Internet Keyboard (Add $6.00)

Anti-Virus Software

CA eTrust Anti-Virus 7.0 (Lifetime Updates)

Speakers

Cyber Acoustics 3001 Speakers with Subwoofer (Add $19.99)




I put a 1 by every option I selected. The total is 815.92. I think that's pretty good. Any better deals?
Thanks in advance. We won't be getting any new computers for several years so this sucker has to last and be upgradable. Thanks.
 
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your kidding??can you just list what your going to buy I don't think anyone wants to go through this list of all the possible systems tiger has, don't even think of getting celeron for gaming.
 
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BTW your link doesn't work, it will for you because it works on cookies, for anyone else it just takes use to the basic link, we don't get what you are choosing.
 

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Several suggestions:

1. Any video with SE or LE at the end should not be considered for gaming - a plain 9800 would be OK, with a PRO or XT being the ideal chioce.

2. Why a P4 with a 533Mhz FSB? Get one with an 800Mhz bus as these are the new ones and offer better performance.

3. RAM - get PC3200 (400Mhz) DDR for best performance, especially if going for a 400Mhz FSB CPU.

4. More of a question but what motherboard are you getting?

5. You could get a DVD burner instead of a DVD-ROM and CD-RW drive and it will do more.

6. If you're on a budget consider and AMD CPU - cheaper then Intel and offer better performance in many areas.

7. Systemax™ Venture® C26 Intel® Celeron® D 330 2.66GHz Processor / Microsoft® Windows® XP Home / 128MB RAM / 40GB HDD / CD-ROM Drive / Build-To-Order Desktop PC - this system is garbage in almost evry area - don't fluch money down the toilet.
 

oddling

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Thanks. I can't really spend over 800 bucks. What would a good system be? Should I just make one? I need something that will run HL2, Doom 3, Far Cry and run them well, like 40 fps with quasi high settings would be nice if that's possible for 800 bucks. Well 30 FPS would be fine. Heck medium settings with 30ish fps would be fine. I don't really know crap about computers although I try, I mean I'm not a total nublet or something, I avoid CS and play NS and all, but technologically I'm not an expert. I'm trying to convince my mom we should build our own pc. If you can give me some advice for her as to why having Tim build us one, give me the ammo. She'll listen. 800 bucks is the limit once again. Thanks.
 
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<>I don't really know crap about computers although I try<>

Then buy, don't build. Get a Dell and be done with it.
 

oddling

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Triple6 said:
Several suggestions:

1. Any video with SE or LE at the end should not be considered for gaming - a plain 9800 would be OK, with a PRO or XT being the ideal chioce.

2. Why a P4 with a 533Mhz FSB? Get one with an 800Mhz bus as these are the new ones and offer better performance.

3. RAM - get PC3200 (400Mhz) DDR for best performance, especially if going for a 400Mhz FSB CPU.

4. More of a question but what motherboard are you getting?

5. You could get a DVD burner instead of a DVD-ROM and CD-RW drive and it will do more.

6. If you're on a budget consider and AMD CPU - cheaper then Intel and offer better performance in many areas.

7. Systemax™ Venture® C26 Intel® Celeron® D 330 2.66GHz Processor / Microsoft® Windows® XP Home / 128MB RAM / 40GB HDD / CD-ROM Drive / Build-To-Order Desktop PC - this system is garbage in almost evry area - don't fluch money down the toilet.
Uhh I'm not getting a Celeron. Here's the **** I'm adding to it...
Processor



Intel Pentium 4 Processor 2.8 GHz 533FSB w/ 1MB Cache (Add $119.99)



Operating System

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition w/ Service Pack 2



Memory
512MB DDR333 PC2700 Non-ECC Memory (512MB x 1) (Add $79.99)



Hard Drive

IDE Hard Drive 80GB (7200 RPM) Ultra ATA (Add $9.99)



Optical Drive

16x (max) DVD ROM Drive (Add $10.00)



Second Optical Drive (cannot be same as primary)

52x32x52 CDRW Drive Black (Add $34.99)


Video Card
ATI Radeon 9800SE 128MB AGP with TV-Out (Add $149.98)



Sound Card

Integrated Audio



Modem
56K V.92 PCI Data/Fax Modem (Add $8.00)



Network Card

Integrated 10/100 Network Adapter



Keyboard
Logitech Internet Keyboard (Add $6.00)

Anti-Virus Software

CA eTrust Anti-Virus 7.0 (Lifetime Updates)

Speakers

Cyber Acoustics 3001 Speakers with Subwoofer (Add $19.99)
 
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oddling said:
Uhh I'm not getting a Celeron. Here's the **** I'm adding to it...
Processor



Intel Pentium 4 Processor 2.8 GHz 533FSB w/ 1MB Cache (Add $119.99)



Operating System

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition w/ Service Pack 2



Memory
512MB DDR333 PC2700 Non-ECC Memory (512MB x 1) (Add $79.99)



Hard Drive

IDE Hard Drive 80GB (7200 RPM) Ultra ATA (Add $9.99)



Optical Drive

16x (max) DVD ROM Drive (Add $10.00)



Second Optical Drive (cannot be same as primary)

52x32x52 CDRW Drive Black (Add $34.99)


Video Card
ATI Radeon 9800SE 128MB AGP with TV-Out (Add $149.98)



Sound Card

Integrated Audio



Modem
56K V.92 PCI Data/Fax Modem (Add $8.00)



Network Card

Integrated 10/100 Network Adapter



Keyboard
Logitech Internet Keyboard (Add $6.00)

Anti-Virus Software

CA eTrust Anti-Virus 7.0 (Lifetime Updates)

Speakers

Cyber Acoustics 3001 Speakers with Subwoofer (Add $19.99)
OK thats a little easier to figure out, well as was said they do have 800fsb P4's now, that would have to be paired with PC3200 ram and the video card really should be the 9800 pro, or even a 9600XT would be better than anything SE (slow edition) for gaming you really should go AMD though, especially when your on a budget. ps it would be nice to know what mobo they are going to sell you.
 
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This pc is about $643 leaving you enough for a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT for $160 = $803 w/o shipping, if you buy it from newegg it will be even a little cheaper i believe.

Yes, same card at NE is $135, getting you in at $778
 

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MFDnSC said:
<>I don't really know crap about computers although I try<>

Then buy, don't build. Get a Dell and be done with it.
No. Tim, my brother in law, is a computer expert. I know the technology I'm just not all that intelligent with computers. I can't spend over 800 dollars and I'm trying to get something that can run Doom 3, HL 2 or Far Cry. A Dell isn't gonna help me much in that regard.
 

oddling

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Hmm. If I just make a brand new computer what mobo should I get. I mean, one that would carry stuff that holds under an 800 dollar budget. Thanks.
 
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since i'm a nice guy (and also bored) ill go onto newegg and see what i can put togther for under $800
 

oddling

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/\/\r.Abdul said:
since i'm a nice guy (and also bored) ill go onto newegg and see what i can put togther for under $800
AHH AWESOME! THANKS!!! AHHH I'M GONNA HAVE AN ANEURYSM!
 
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AMD Athlon 64 2800+ - Retail $144
SOLTEK SL-K8AN2E-GR NVIDIA nForce3 250Gb $95
Corsair Value Select 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - OEM $76
SAMSUNG 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive - OEM $69
NEC 8X Black Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive - OEM $64
ANTEC Performance Plus Case with 430W Power Supply $129.49
ATI RADEON 9800PRO 128MB DDR 256-bit DVI/TV-Out 8X AGP - RETAIL $217

Total = $794.49
All prices at http://www.newegg.com/

how do u like them apples?
 

oddling

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/\/\r.Abdul said:
AMD Athlon 64 2800+ - Retail $144
SOLTEK SL-K8AN2E-GR NVIDIA nForce3 250Gb $95
Corsair Value Select 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - OEM $76
SAMSUNG 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive - OEM $69
NEC 8X Black Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive - OEM $64
ANTEC Performance Plus Case with 430W Power Supply $129.49
ATI RADEON 9800PRO 128MB DDR 256-bit DVI/TV-Out 8X AGP - RETAIL $217

Total = $794.49
All prices at http://www.newegg.com/

how do u like them apples?
Holy ****. That works.
 
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