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Solved Macrium Reflect and MFT error

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  1. mike2111

    mike2111 Thread Starter

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    I use Macrium Reflect Free to make frequent backup images, which I have saved me on a number of occasions. However, every time I use it I get the message “MFT corrupt – error code+6 run chkdsk c: /r”. I run this and am then able to make an image – until the next time. I also get a message XML validation Error storage G <disk> ‘2’ <partition> storage H ‘3’ is not valid. The two partitions are extra drives NFTS dynamic 682 GB and NFTS dynamic 99 GB – neither of these is selected for imaging.

    Chkdsk switch R is described as fixing bad sectors rather than the master file table. The problem is obviously not within windows but is more fundamental – is there a way of permanently solving the problem, which adds another twenty minutes or so to the image production process. I always verify the image and there has never been a corrupt one.

    Tech Support Guy System Info Utility version 1.0.0.4
    OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 Home, 64 bit
    Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10
    Processor Count: 4
    RAM: 8191 Mb
    Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030, -2048 Mb
    Hard Drives: C: 222 GB (110 GB Free); D: 465 GB (214 GB Free); G: 736 GB (53 GB Free); H: 195 GB (115 GB Free);
    Motherboard: MSI, G41M-P28 (MS-7592)
    Antivirus: TalkTalk SuperSafe by F-Secure, Enabled and Updated
     

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  2. Macboatmaster

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    The Master file table may be considered in simple terms as the index to the drive
    Without that finding a file on the drive would mean that the whole drive needed to be searched
    When there is an error, with some aspect of the file system that error is recorded in the MFT

    The reason that Macrium suggests the chkdsk /r is so that if these errors were caused by bad sectors, then the data from the bad sector can be re written to another sector and that original sector marked as bad to prevent data being written to it in future.

    1. there are file errors on the drive - without actual bad sectors then they are sometimes caused on windows 10 by the use of third party maintenance tools
    Do you use any - such as registry cleaners, system cleaners, boosters etc.

    2. What version of Macrium Rflect are you using

    3. Send me please a chkdsk /f report for C drive
    copy and paste the results from event viewer to your reply
    Run it from cmd prompt and obtain results from
    wininit
    search on event viewer, windows logs on left pane, application log

    4. As an aside Talk Talk F secure will cause you problems on 10
    Use the included Defender
    Whether or not F Secure is the cause of this problem I do not know but disable F secure before configuring the image.
     
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  4. mike2111

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    Thank you for your very detailed reply.

    I have run CCleaner in the past, including the registry cleaner, but because of a problem with windows updates I have had for months, a few days ago, at the forum suggestion, I did a clean re-install of Windows, now ver 1903 (keeping data and apps). This will have generated a new registry file, so past use of cleaners will be irrelevant (I now only use the MS cleanup facility). I have been running Macrium Reflect ver 5, as ver 6 would not load. Since the re-installation I have been able to install ver 7. The problem is the same with both versions.

    I uninstalled F-Secure and activated Defender – the problem persisted.

    I have run chkdsk c: /f and tried again - and it worked. As Macrium has always failed to work again after a re-boot I re-booted and tried once more, and it still worked – this has not happened before: the problem may have been solved.

    I have tried to access the log file through WININIT but without success. I typed WININIT into the RUN box and nothing happened. I found wininit.exe in windows/system32 and clicked Run – nothing happened, I tried run as administrator and had the message that I did not have permission. Presumably there is a log file somewhere on the computer but a search for “log file” on the drive did not find it, although there were a lot of others.
     
  5. Macboatmaster

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    you go to event viewer
    you expand windows lofs oin left pane
    you click application log
    you then click find on right pane and type
    wininit
    that opens the wininit entries amongst which is chkdsk run on a restart

    which when you typed chkdsk /f
    at cmd prompt it would ask did you wish to run on restart

    Here is a guide with pics
    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/40822-read-chkdsk-log-event-viewer-windows-10-a.html

    when you have it in event viewer you click copy on right pane
    as txt
    and paste to your reply
     
  6. mike2111

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    Thank you. I clicked save file as text but could not find it, so took the three screenshots attached.
     

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    It looks OK but it is a little hard to read it as three screenshots
    Go back save as text
    It is then in the clipboard, which is ram memory
    so on the reply - here - panel simply right click and click paste
     
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    Log Name: Application
    Source: Microsoft-Windows-Wininit
    Date: 10/10/2019 11:18:44
    Event ID: 1001
    Task Category: None
    Level: Information
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Mike-PC
    Description:
    Checking file system on C:
    The type of the file system is NTFS.
    A disk check has been scheduled.
    Windows will now check the disk.
    Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...
    604416 file records processed.
    File verification completed.
    12866 large file records processed.
    0 bad file records processed.
    Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ...
    7206 reparse records processed.
    777856 index entries processed.
    Index verification completed.
    0 unindexed files scanned.
    0 unindexed files recovered to lost and found.
    7206 reparse records processed.
    Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...
    Cleaning up 56 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
    Cleaning up 56 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
    Cleaning up 56 unused security descriptors.
    Security descriptor verification completed.
    86721 data files processed.
    CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
    4715696 USN bytes processed.
    Usn Journal verification completed.
    Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
    No further action is required.
    232994858 KB total disk space.
    116796176 KB in 376160 files.
    230424 KB in 86722 indexes.
    0 KB in bad sectors.
    688230 KB in use by the system.
    65536 KB occupied by the log file.
    115280028 KB available on disk.
    4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
    58248714 total allocation units on disk.
    28820007 allocation units available on disk.
    Internal Info:
    00 39 09 00 7d 0f 07 00 dd 50 0b 00 00 00 00 00 .9..}....P......
    a4 1a 00 00 82 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    Windows has finished checking your disk.
    Please wait while your computer restarts.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Wininit" Guid="{206f6dea-d3c5-4d10-bc72-989f03c8b84b}" EventSourceName="Wininit" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="16384">1001</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>4</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2019-10-10T10:18:44.512149400Z" />
    <EventRecordID>743</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="0" ThreadID="0" />
    <Channel>Application</Channel>
    <Computer>Mike-PC</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    Checking file system on C:
    The type of the file system is NTFS.
    A disk check has been scheduled.
    Windows will now check the disk.
    Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...
    604416 file records processed.
    File verification completed.
    12866 large file records processed.
    0 bad file records processed.
    Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ...
    7206 reparse records processed.
    777856 index entries processed.
    Index verification completed.
    0 unindexed files scanned.
    0 unindexed files recovered to lost and found.
    7206 reparse records processed.
    Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...
    Cleaning up 56 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
    Cleaning up 56 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
    Cleaning up 56 unused security descriptors.
    Security descriptor verification completed.
    86721 data files processed.
    CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
    4715696 USN bytes processed.
    Usn Journal verification completed.
    Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
    No further action is required.
    232994858 KB total disk space.
    116796176 KB in 376160 files.
    230424 KB in 86722 indexes.
    0 KB in bad sectors.
    688230 KB in use by the system.
    65536 KB occupied by the log file.
    115280028 KB available on disk.
    4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
    58248714 total allocation units on disk.
    28820007 allocation units available on disk.
    Internal Info:
    00 39 09 00 7d 0f 07 00 dd 50 0b 00 00 00 00 00 .9..}....P......
    a4 1a 00 00 82 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    Windows has finished checking your disk.
    Please wait while your computer restarts.
    </Data>
    </EventData>
    </Event>
     
  9. Macboatmaster

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    There is nothing wrong there
    Please see how it goes with Macrium
    One may suspect the F Secure but I really do not know
     
  10. mike2111

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    Thank you very much for your patient help - Macrium still works without a hitch so I am cautiously optimistic that the problem has been cured - maybe one of the removed unused index items had been the problem. I removed F-secure and did a trial image before I ran chkdsk c: /f but it failed again. F-Secure will not be re-installed.
     
  11. Macboatmaster

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    Cheers
    Pleased to have helped
    Your system will run smoother without F Secure.
    The product as an AV is rated highly in some reviews
    However the problem with nearly all 3rd party Anti Virus products on 10 is that they seem in the majority unable to keep pace with the updates to 10
    They work OK at first and then often produce problems after the 2nd Tuesday updates and especially after system updates to new versions of 10

    Whereas Defender is always 100% compatible with 10 - 100% of the time.

    It was by the way nothing to do with the unused index items
    This will help you understand the index items
    So basically the Master File Table is the index to the drive data
    If that did not exist then to find a file on the drive the whole drive would have to be searched.
    You may consider it like trying to find something in a book without an index.

    Thought you may find it interesting.

    When you have checked it for a few days mark the topic solved please
    Click mark solved on your opening post
     
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