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Mailwasher & AVG question

Discussion in 'Virus & Other Malware Removal' started by Steppinstone, Jan 17, 2003.

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  1. Steppinstone

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    I wanted to test avg's abiltity to catch any email viruses. I recieved one marked as virus through mailwasher and didnt mark it to delete or bounce and hit process mail to let it go through to my outlook account. I high lighted the email, hit file save as and placed it on my desk top, right clicked , hit scan with avg and it comes back as no viruses detected.

    Am I saving the mail wrong? Pehaps it was an infected mail but avg didnt catch it? Maybe mailwasher being defective?

    If ya all have any thoughts on this please let me know. I am hoping that AvG with work well enough until I can afford to buy a new anti virus program. Thanks Chari
     
  2. $teve

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    im pretty sure you need to open the email before your a/v will detect it..........its really not a virus until its activated.....by opening.
    avg is fine,make sure you have it set to auto update.
    you can test your a/v at this site.
    http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm
     
  3. Steppinstone

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    Hmm I never knew that you actually had to open the email to have an alert come up from an anti virus program. I never open email that I suspect contain a virus there for, have never experienced my AV going off. Thanks for the heads up ! Chari
     
  4. Gary R

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    Any info re AVG (I'm using Freeware Version 6.0) & Mailwasher will be appreciated by me too, been thinking of getting MW, and Steppinstone brought up a couple of things I hadn't thought of.
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    My own question re MailWasher ... I'm also using the freeware version of ZoneAlarm (Ver. 3.1.291), & was wondering if it & Mailwasher worked ok together, or would settings have to be changed in it or ZA?
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    Using Outlook Express 5.5 (with no Updates installed), & Dial-Up connection.
     
  5. dvk01

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    you shouldn't have to open the email for AVG to detect it.

    If you saved it to file, right clicked and scnned and AVG didn't find a virus, then either it was a virus that AVG can't detect or mailwasher flagged a false positive

    what virus did mail washer say it contained and was it in the email or an attachment.

    Derek
     
  6. dvk01

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    I have just done a few tests with AVG and the eicar test file

    If you embed eicar in an html email avg detects it on download

    if you embed in in a text only email it detects it on download

    if you attach it as a text or zip attachment it doesn't find it until you save the attachment and scan the attachment

    If you just save the email and scan the email it wiil not detect it until you save the attachment and scan that

    Make your own conclusions from these tests but I never open any suspect email or attacment without checking it.

    I don't rely on any AV to be 100% secure and if i am suspicious about an email I will examine it by right click and properties /source to see the code in it before opening.

    Derek
     
  7. Steppinstone

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    Thanks Derek- I am not sure what kind of virus that mailwasher reported, How do I find out? I am not into finding out the hard way. Sometimes I do ( well the kid does) recieves email that MW says is a virus, So far since I down loaded mw about a month ago it has said that 39 of my kids mail contained viruses. I place them in the black list but that just tells me the email addys of where they are coming from, some from yahoo, aol users and even got a bad one from someone @ ebay ( I have never used ebay except browsing once in awhile) so I was just curious about finding out how to double check them.
    In case I am extra curious in the near future could you tell me how to save an attachment to scan and can this be done with out opening the actual file? I am still quite novice at this techie stuff but sure have learned alot since finding this wonderful site.
    Thanks all! Chari
     
  8. brendandonhu

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    The virus was probably in an attachment, which AVG would not scan until its opened or scanned (requires pro version for custom scans).

    MailWasher is NOT a virus scanner, it does NOT know if a message contains a virus and it does NOT tell you what virus a message contains. It analyzes the message and attachment type to see if it is possible that it is a virus.
     
  9. Steppinstone

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    Thanks everyone.... Brendan I know that Mail washer is not a virus scanner, It is a very nice tool to have espessily if you have teenagers who likes to sign up for crap ,there fore getting all that extra un-nesssary email. I am not taking any chances if MW says virus then it is getting deleted.
    Thanks again- Chari
     
  10. brendandonhu

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    Well OK, better safe than sorry, but mailwasher isnt saying its a virus. Its saying its physically possible that it contains a virus. So if someone sends you an email with a .exe or other executable attachment, MailWasher will probably say virus.
     
  11. bellgamin

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    I use Mailwasher + AVG. Mailwasher often flags something as a virus. Actually, as someone said in this same thread, Mailwasher just spots "suspicious" attachments. Also, it has a limited vocabulary since it calls all potential malware by a single name - "virus." Much of the malware going around now is NOT viruses but is, instead, trojans or worms.

    The "V" in AVG stands for "virus" -- AVG is primarily a virus checker & only has a limited number of trojan or worm signatures. Ergo, if the suspicious thingee is a trojan [as opposed to a virus], then AVG & most other anti-virus programs would give it a clean bill of health.

    There are only a couple of AV programs that do a fairly good job of spotting trojans [Kaspersky & Dr. Web, for example] & they are NOT free.

    Generally, if you open lots of email attachments & want really solid protection against trojans you need a full-on AT [anti-trojan program] such as Trojan Hunter or TDS. Trojan Hunter costs ~$35, & TDS is even higher priced.

    If you don't have $$$ for software right now, then RegProt and ScriptDefender will give you a modicum of protection. Both are FREE & verrry tiny.

    shaloha.........bellgamin
     
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    sorry steppinstone,thats what i thought you meant.......:eek:

    cheers brendon;)
     
  13. Steppinstone

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    Thanks guys for all you info, you have been most helpful as always. Have a Great day! Chari
     
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