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  1. Hibou

    Hibou Thread Starter

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    Well, where should I start? I guess I started having problems a few weeks ago as I noticed my system (PII 400, 256 megs, ATI Rage Fury, 17GB HD 7GB free, burner, etc) was slowing down dramaticaly when left idle for a few minutes. The HD kept working continuously. Wasn't too concerned at 1st, but it stated getting worse. So I did a cleanup (scandisk, defrag), but I had a very difficult time as something was continuously writing to my HD. I figured out how to stop all these running processes, so I finally was able to complete this cleanup. Ocassionally, the system would freeze and I had to turn the system off (with the switch) and restart. It did not help. I also ran a virus scan, and I removed a Jsnoclose thing, but that was it.

    I then tried cleaning up the start up through msconfig, but that hasn't helped either. I recently tried Spybot, and that increased the speed of my system, but it still didn't fix the slowing down after idling problem, which is now quite bad as it can take 5 to 10 minutes to shut down (when that works).

    Now, on top of everything else, my system displays at 640x480 in 16 colors and I cannot change it. I even got a few wierd error messages(kernel32 caused error, rundll32 caused error in mmsystem.dll). Anyway, I've tried several things and I have this feeling this house of cards is about to drop.

    Can anyone shed some light, somewhere?
     
  2. Hibou

    Hibou Thread Starter

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    oh yeah, running windows ME. The system, which I've had for about 2 years, had always run superbly.

    Hibou
     
  3. Davey7549

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    Hibou

    Welcome to TSG!

    We need to start somewhere with this so........
    It is entirely possible you have missed a trojan, or virus or something on your system. So lets start with a free online scan at housecall.
    http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/start_corp.asp

    If anything is found let housecall help fix it and let us know what it was.

    Also after scan download and run Startuplist. After it runs paste the results of its find back here for review.

    http://www.lurkhere.com/~nicefiles/

    Dave
     
  4. Hibou

    Hibou Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the reply...

    I have run a virus scan, but I'll try it again... and I'll try startuplist. I've just gone back to a full startup instead of a selective startup since I haven't seen a difference and I'd like to get my display back to a reasonable resolution as it's tough to read anything, but that didn't work (I tought maybe I was missing a driver)... I'm getting a lot of "rundll32 caused error"

    Be back in a bit.

    Hibou
     
  5. Hibou

    Hibou Thread Starter

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    Well, I ran housecall and no virus was found. Anyway, here's the startup list.

    Hibou

    tartupList report, 1/13/2003, 10:52:25 PM
    StartupList version: 1.50
    Started from : C:\UNZIPPED\STARTUPLIST15\STARTUPLIST.EXE
    Detected: Windows ME (Win9x 4.90.3000)
    Detected: Internet Explorer v5.50 (5.50.4134.0100)
    * Using default options
    ==================================================

    Running processes:

    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSGSRV32.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MPREXE.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSTASK.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\TASKMON.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SYSTRAY.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTTASK.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE\STMGR.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\REAL\REALPLAYER\REALPLAY.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\WINAMP\WINAMPA.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMIEXE.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\LEXBCES.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RPCSS.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\MICROSOFT HARDWARE\GAME DEVICES\SIDEWINDER GDP.EXE
    C:\PROGRAM FILES\WEBSHOTS\WEBSHOTSTRAY.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\LEXPPS.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DDHELP.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\PSTORES.EXE
    C:\UNZIPPED\STARTUPLIST15\STARTUPLIST.EXE

    --------------------------------------------------

    Listing of startup folders:

    Shell folders Startup:
    [C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp]
    SideWinder Game Device Profiler.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Game Devices\SideWinder GDP.exe
    Webshots.lnk = C:\Program Files\Webshots\WebshotsTray.exe

    --------------------------------------------------

    Autorun entries from Registry:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

    ScanRegistry = C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun
    TaskMonitor = C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
    PCHealth = C:\WINDOWS\PCHealth\Support\PCHSchd.exe -s
    SystemTray = SysTray.Exe
    AtiQiPcl = AtiQiPcl.exe
    LexStart = Lexstart.exe
    LoadPowerProfile = Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
    QuickTime Task = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTTASK.EXE
    InCD = C:\Program Files\ahead\InCD\InCD.exe
    RealTray = C:\Program Files\Real\RealPlayer\RealPlay.exe SYSTEMBOOTHIDEPLAYER
    WinampAgent = "C:\PROGRAM FILES\WINAMP\WINAMPa.exe"

    --------------------------------------------------

    Autorun entries from Registry:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

    *StateMgr = C:\WINDOWS\System\Restore\StateMgr.exe
    ATIPOLAB = ati2evxx.exe
    SchedulingAgent = mstask.exe
    LoadPowerProfile = Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme

    --------------------------------------------------

    Autorun entries from Registry:
    HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

    ATI Launchpad =

    --------------------------------------------------

    Enumerating Active Setup stub paths:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components
    (* = disabled by HKCU twin)

    [{89820200-ECBD-11cf-8B85-00AA005B4383}] *
    StubPath = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ie4uinit.exe

    [{89820200-ECBD-11cf-8B85-00AA005B4395}] *
    StubPath = regsvr32.exe /s /n /i:U shell32.dll

    [>PerUser_MSN_Clean] *
    StubPath = C:\WINDOWS\msnmgsr1.exe

    [PerUser_LinkBar_URLs] *
    StubPath = C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\sulfnbk.exe /L

    [{44BBA840-CC51-11CF-AAFA-00AA00B6015C}] *
    StubPath = "C:\PROGRA~1\OUTLOO~1\setup50.exe" /APP:OE /CALLER:WIN9X /user /install

    [{7790769C-0471-11d2-AF11-00C04FA35D02}] *
    StubPath = "C:\PROGRA~1\OUTLOO~1\setup50.exe" /APP:WAB /CALLER:WIN9X /user /install

    --------------------------------------------------

    Load/Run keys from C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INI:

    load=
    run=

    --------------------------------------------------

    Shell & screensaver key from C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI:

    Shell=
    SCRNSAVE.EXE=
    drivers=

    --------------------------------------------------

    Checking for EXPLORER.EXE instances:

    C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.exe: PRESENT!

    C:\Explorer.exe: not present
    C:\WINDOWS\Explorer\Explorer.exe: not present
    C:\WINDOWS\System\Explorer.exe: not present
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\Explorer.exe: not present
    C:\WINDOWS\Command\Explorer.exe: not present

    --------------------------------------------------

    C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK listing:
    (Created 12/1/2003, 21:35:48)

    [Rename]
    c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MMSYSTEM.DLL=c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SCU32F1.TMP

    --------------------------------------------------

    C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT listing:

    SET windir=C:\WINDOWS
    SET winbootdir=C:\WINDOWS
    SET COMSPEC=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM
    SET PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
    SET PROMPT=$p$g
    SET TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
    SET TMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP

    --------------------------------------------------

    C:\WINDOWS\WINSTART.BAT listing:

    @C:\WINDOWS\tmpcpyis.bat

    --------------------------------------------------

    Checking for superhidden extensions:

    .lnk: HIDDEN! (arrow overlay: yes)
    .pif: HIDDEN! (arrow overlay: yes)
    .exe: not hidden
    .com: not hidden
    .bat: not hidden
    .hta: not hidden
    .scr: not hidden
    .shs: HIDDEN!
    .shb: HIDDEN!
    .vbs: not hidden
    .vbe: not hidden
    .wsh: not hidden
    .scf: HIDDEN! (arrow overlay: NO!)
    .url: HIDDEN! (arrow overlay: yes)
    .js: not hidden
    .jse: not hidden

    --------------------------------------------------

    Enumerating Task Scheduler jobs:

    Tune-up Application Start.job
    PCHealth Scheduler for Data Collection.job

    --------------------------------------------------

    Enumerating Download Program Files:

    [Shockwave Flash Object]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MACROMED\FLASH\FLASH.OCX
    CODEBASE = http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab

    [QuickTime Object]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\QTPLUGIN.OCX
    CODEBASE = http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab

    [Update Class]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IUCTL.DLL
    CODEBASE = http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/CAB/x86/ansi/iuctl.CAB?37587.8318981482

    [McFreeScan Class]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\MCAFEE.COM\FREESCAN\MCFSCAN.DLL
    CODEBASE = http://download.mcafee.com/molbin/iss-loc/vso/en-us/tools/mcfscan/1,4,0,4237/mcfscan.cab

    [HouseCall Control]
    InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLO~1\XSCAN53.OCX
    CODEBASE = http://a840.g.akamai.net/7/840/537/2002121801/housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/xscan53.cab

    --------------------------------------------------
    End of report, 6,688 bytes
    Report generated in 0.524 seconds

    Command line options:
    /verbose - to add additional info on each section
    /complete - to include empty sections and unsuspicious data
    /force9x - to include Win9x-only startups even if running on WinNT
    /forcent - to include WinNT-only startups even if running on Win9x
    /forceall - to include all Win9x and WinNT startups, regardless of platform
    /history - to list version history only
     
  6. Hibou

    Hibou Thread Starter

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    While this may well be a operating system problem, I'm starting to wonder if there isn't a hardware problem (i.e. video card). I ran a diagnotics on the card (ATI rage fury) and the pipeline burst test basicaly blanked the screen (they say it should last a few minutes...) for about 45 minutes until I had to shut down manually as there was no signal to the monitor and nothing was responding.
    Anyway, just to add to everything said, I ran a system info amd I'm getting 100% kernel usage when the computer is bogged down (and nothing is running except usual ongoing stuff). Go figure.
    Maybe I'll splash some Holy Water on it...

    Hibou
     
  7. Rollin' Rog

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    From your startup list it looks like you are missing the system.ini entry described here:

    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138835

    I don't know if it is causing the slow down problem, but it is likely responsible for the rundll32 and mmsystem.dll errors.

    The system.ini file can be edited easily by going to start>run and entering system.ini so that it opens in Notepad. Make the suggested correction and save the file. It looks like currently the drivers= line is just empty, with nothing after it.

    Correct that first and see if the other problems persist.

    There is also a free program called ProcessExplorer available here, which can help in identifying the particular process which is consuming so much cpu time.

    http://www.sysinternals.com/win9x/98utilities.shtml

    It may be something associated with a sound or video codec which the lack of the mmsystem.dll is buggering up

    Drivers for your Rage Fury are available here, you may need to update or reinstall.

    http://www.ati.com/support/products/pc/rage128/rage128drivers.html

    Also, think back, what did you do on 12/1 that might have modified or replaced the mmsystem.dll:


    C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK listing:
    (Created 12/1/2003, 21:35:48)

    [Rename]
    c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MMSYSTEM.DLL=c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SCU32F1.TMP
     
  8. wizzkid

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    Hi folks,

    I don't know about the system slowing down and the restartin
    problem ect. But I too once had a display problem, which
    sounds similar to your own, could not rest the system to it's correct
    resolution. I checked msconfig and the system.ini radio button
    had deselected its self. Once I reselected it and rebooted
    everything is great.
     
  9. Hibou

    Hibou Thread Starter

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    Well, I did the system.ini addition (added drivers=mmsystem.dll) and rebooted, tried to readjust the display settings and nothing. I also checked the system.ini tab in msconfig, and the display folder is empty... could this be part of the problem? Right now, the system slowing down is secondary; I really need to get away from 640x480 in 16 colors as it's pulling my eyes out. I'll try downloading the ATI drivers once again and see how that works.

    As for what started it all, I can't be sure as the slowdown problem only ocurs when left idle 10 or 15 minutes, so it tough to place an exact date. I did install a burner a few month's ago, and I just recently got a digital camera (Olympus). Maybe the display problem is associated with this...

    Hibou

    FYI, my system.ini contents are as follows:

    [default]
    WaveBlockLen=688
    WaveBlocks=5
    Remix=1

    rd.typ=Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
    aspect=100,96,96
    display.drv=Rage Fury

    [386Enh]
    ebios=*ebios
    woafont=dosapp.fon
    mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
    device=*dynapage
    device=*vcd
    device=*vpd
    device=*int13
    device=*enable
    keyboard=*vkd
    display=*vdd,*vflatd

    [NonWindowsApp]
    TTInitialSizes=4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 20 22

    [power.drv]

    [drivers]
    wavemapper=*.drv
    MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
    MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
    wave=mmsystem.dll
    midi=mmsystem.dll

    [iccvid.drv]

    [mciseq.drv]

    [mci]
    cdaudio=mcicda.drv
    sequencer=mciseq.drv
    waveaudio=mciwave.drv
    avivideo=mciavi.drv
    videodisc=mcipionr.drv
    vcr=mcivisca.drv
    MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv
    DvdVidEx=MciCinem.drv DVD
    MpegVideo=MciCinem.drv DVD
    DvdVideo=MciCinem.drv DVD

    [vcache]

    [MSNP32]

    [Password Lists]
    GUY=C:\WINDOWS\GUY.PWL









    [Display]

    [drivers32]
    msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
    VIDC.VDOM=vdowave.drv
    msacm.msaudio1=msaud32.acm
    msacm.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
    MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
    MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
    MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
    MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
    MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
    vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
    vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
    VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
    msacm.msg723=msg723.acm
    vidc.M263=msh263.drv
    vidc.M261=msh261.drv
    VIDC.IV50=ir50_32.dll
    msacm.iac2=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IAC25_32.AX
    msacm.l3acm=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\L3CODECA.ACM
    VIDC.UYVY=msyuv.dll
    msacm.voxacm160=vct3216.acm
    VIDC.IV41=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IR41_32.AX
    VIDC.iv32=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IR32_32.DLL
    VIDC.iv31=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IR32_32.DLL

    [drivers]
    wave=mmsystem.dll

    [drivers]
    midi=mmsystem.dll

    [Password Lists]
    GUY=C:\WINDOWS\GUY000.PWL

    [boot]
    *DisplayFallback=0
    drivers=mmsystem.dll
     
  10. Hibou

    Hibou Thread Starter

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    Oh yeah, I might know what happened on 12/01/03 - I ran Spybot, and it's possible it was on that day. Should I restore?

    Hibou
     
  11. kilowatt1

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    Start/Run. Type in msconfig. Select the startup tab. Uncheck the entry for PCHealth. It has been known to cause problems of this sort.

    Good luck.

    Kilowatt
     
  12. Hibou

    Hibou Thread Starter

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    The new drivers worked! It's funny, I had downloaded the drivers yesterday, but I hadn't installed them... sometimes, we look for trouble where it isn't. I still don't know how or why they dissapeared in the 1st place. I'll monitor my slowdown problem and advise as to what's going on.

    Thanks,

    Hibou
     
  13. Rollin' Rog

    Rollin' Rog

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    I don't know why you were seing a blank system.ini in msconfig, but if it weren't being loaded, that would explain the resolution problem as well. Has it re-appeared? It's not unchecked on the general page is it?

    And the file is in c:\windows isn't it? If it were moved, it might still load but not be seen by msconfig.
     
  14. Davey7549

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    Hibou
    Glad that psrt is fixed. Here is further reference to what KW is saying about PCHealth which in turn engages wmiexe.exe excessivly consuming resources.
    http://groups.google.com/groups?q=w...TF-8&[email protected]&rnum=4
    Have never experienced that problem on any of my WinME machines though.

    I am curious on what you mean the System.ini folder is empty in msconfig under system.ini tab. Attached is a screenshot of what this WinME machines msconfig system.ini tab window looks like.

    Is the system.ini located in C:\Windows folder?

    Opps I see Rog is asking the same question!:D

    Dave
     

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  15. Hibou

    Hibou Thread Starter

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    Maybe I wasn't precise enough about the system.ini tab in msconfig - there were folders, similar to those in your screenshot, but I have another folder named "display" which was and still is empty. And yes, the box is checked. It doesn't seem to affect the display, as that part seems to be okay. I hope that clears things up.

    As for the bogging down problem, I'll leave my system to idle for 30 minutes or so, check again and post an update.

    Hibou
     
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