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Solved Major stuttering and juddering in games[probably a GPU issue

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  1. TheGreatKaito

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    So,I had built my gaming rig just at the start of this year,with recommendations from my friends[tech enthusiasts]. These are my current system specs :-

    Hardware:-
    1)Processor-Intel Core i5 6500 @3.20 Ghz.
    2)Ram-8 GB[1 corsair vengeance 2400Mhz stick].
    3)Motherboard-Gigabyte H110M s2.
    4)GPU-Zotac Geforce 1060 3GB.
    5)Power supply-Antec VP550P.
    6)HDD's-2 TB[One new Toshiba HDD and a old WD HDD].
    7)Case-Corsair 100R.
    8)Monitor-Standard samsung 60Hz monitor.

    Software:-
    OS:- Windows 10 pro[updated to the latest version as I am writing this article].
    Antivirus/Antimalware programs installed:- Windows defender.
    Nvidia settings:-All are set to default[factory settings].

    Note:-I always make sure that I keep my nvidia drivers,OS/antivirus signatures,other programs updated to the latest versions available right now,just something that I felt was needed to be out there before I begin to write my main set of dilemmas.

    Problem:-1]Major stuttering in demanding games such as Witcher 3 and slight but noticeable juddering,which happens from time to time in games such as CS:GO,Far Cry 4,GTA 5,etc.

    2]I have noticed that when I have a application such as utorrent[which has minimal memory usage],other apps such as Mozilla and Chrome take a noticeable time to start then before,it does not happen all the time,mostly it happens when I turn on the PC for the first time during the start of the day,afterwards I do not see this happen,but it definitely does not feel as fast as it used to before[Maybe the Creators update is to be blamed].


    Now,in the first 2-3 months,I do not recall the constant stuttering/juddering,but I just am not sure.This is like my first gaming PC,it was only when I played Witcher 3 at my friends house that I noticed the game never once stuttered[He also has almost the same setup as me,with the difference being he has a 6GB version of the 1060 and an i7]. I didn't tweaked the settings when I first got the games ,so not all of these games were set at ultra quality so to speak.

    So,I decided to check my GPU and CPU temps with NZXT CAM and this is what I got:-

    CPU Idle temps:-34-37 degree celsius, GPU Idle temps:-37-43 degree celsius.

    1]Witcher 3:-Set at ultra settings,the game just stuttered like every 5-10 seconds.Average frame rate was like 38.5 and the highest I got was 54-55,the frame rates never stabilized and constantly changed at an incremental level which was noticeable.Temps reached 82 degree celsius which frightened me,and I think they did not go high just because of the card throttling itself after 82 C.Played at low settings,and there are no stutters at all.
    CPU temps were normal,it sat between 47-57 degree celsius.

    2]GTA 5:-Again all settings cranked to high,no visible stuttering like seen in Witcher 3,but judders happen after every 30-40 seconds for a fraction of a second but it can be noticed easily,especially when on impact on other vehicles,turning the vehicles,making a sudden movement,etc.NZXT Cam does not seem to activate in this game,so I guess you have to understand the situation by my above statement.

    3]Far Cry 4:-In this game,the maximum CPU temps went to 53 degree celsius and the highest it got on the GPU side was 69 degree celsius.Slight judders but the FPS seemed to maintain itself consistently even on the highest preset quality options.

    I keep my case in an open space,I just have an exhaust fan on the backside[Arctic F12 PWM],because I do not really think my rig justifies a whole intake-exhaust setup,but I may install 2 intake fans on the front in the upcoming future,cause of the whole positive airflow stuff,but anything more than that just seems overkill to me.


    So,here are my questions:-

    1]Why are the above problems occuring,is it a GPU issue[most likely],or is it my CPU or maybe even my SMPS[highly unlikely].

    2]What should I do to remedy this problem?

    Thanking you guys in advance :)
     
  2. Macboatmaster

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    Referring back to an earlier topic of yours
    https://forums.techguy.org/threads/companion-anti-malware-firewall-to-complement-paid-av.1194433/

    what do you have installed on this computer
    I realise you list Windows Defender
    However what else is installed in that line - AV - Antispyware/Adware etc

    I am not suggesting it is the cause but why did you choose to run ONE 8GB stick
    You would have been far better using dual channel

    However
    If you do not have fan speed control on the card
    https://www.zotac.com/us/page/firestorm
    install latest Firestorm and set MAX
     
  3. TheGreatKaito

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    I was an idiot to go with the decision of buying just one stick[but RAM prices :(,India is affected too], and especially since the arrival of GST[one tax for every state] which is just the worst implementation of one tax for the whole nation here btw,electronic products are costlier than ever .As my motherboard had only two DIMM slots,I wanted a 8*8 dual channel setup[not a 4*4], but I guess I could have bought another 8 gb stick,but I never really felt the need too as I never saw memory usage spike more than 6 Gb even when I played resource heavy games such as witcher 3[even though the dual channel setup would have been advantageous].

    Yes, I used to use KIS[still have them all on my smartphones though], but after my license expired just 2-3 months ago I decided to go with Windows defender,and yeah I am sorry I did not list Superantispyware[but I only use it for scanning,real-time protection is off]. Nothing else :)

    I will install Firestorm and set the fan curve to max, will update on how it goes.
     
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    Hey, I set the fan curve of my GPU to 100 % with the help of Zotac's Firestorm like you asked. Then , I decided to play all the games mentioned above to see if there was an improvement, but alas there was no noticeable difference from my previous situation. The massive stuttering problem continued in Witcher 3, while minor judders continued to happen in less intensive games,just like they happened before. So, I decided to set the fan curve to custom again, and observed that at idle temps the fan is at like 60 %,but when I start playing games it automatically maxes up ,but still the card goes like 80 C in Witcher 3..... what I do not understand,even in games such as CSGO and Far Cry 4 where the temps[GPU] stayed at 65 degree celsius,which is a relatively alright position to be in when the GPU is just aircooled anyways, the game still stutters . I can only scratch my head at this predicament, because rising temps do not seem to cause all the problems I have experienced while gaming , is it totally my GPU's fault , or can it be my CPU or my SMPS....I do not wanna RMA my GPU just to come to the conclusion that the GPU wasn't the problem in the first place. Should I run benchmarks on my CPU and GPU to see whether which is at fault, how else should I diagnose my problem? I am sorry,but I hope you can answer my questions,thanks in advance :)
     
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    You could have some settings in your power or BIOS throttling the CPU causing that also. A Friend has a old 775 dual core and he was having audio distortion problems on YouTube and I went in the bios and turned off EIST (Enhanced Intel Speedstep Technology) and C1E enhanced halt state . I also went in the windows power profile and maxed it out also.
     
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    Would a screenshot of my BIOS page and settings suffice? You can tell me what is wrong and I will change accordingly k :)
     
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    Here are the pictures of my BIOS configuration,hope you can make something of it :)
     

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    Because of the file limitations[10], I am attaching the other five pictures here[Hope you don't mind the quality,they are taken from my phone after all :p]
     

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    You have decent parts with one big exception; the pw supply. Antecs are ok for a basic type build ie onboard/onchip video, running office, etc. They are not ok for gaming, overclocking or any other stressful endeavor. The only antec that is up to gaming is the HCG series.

    Since this is a gigabyte board, go to the support page and download/install both app center and system info viewer. Once you have those installed, open system info viewer. Post the following info; cpu temp, system temp, 12V, 5V, and 3.3V values. Do this twice; once while idle and once while running a stress test ie prime95, intel burn test, or intel extreme tuning stress test. Any of those are fine. Let the stress test run for at least 2~3min so temps and voltages stabilize. Here is a link to the support page for your board;
    https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-H110M-S2-rev-10#support-dl
     
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    I just did what you asked[BTW did you also take a look at my BIOS configuration,it may help you in drawing a solution perhaps], here are the screenshots :- 1]Idle Temps. idle original.jpg
     
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    2]Intel Specs:- intel specs.png
     
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    3]During CPU stress test:- while doing stress intel extreme.png
     
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    4]After CPU stress test[4-5 secs later] :- cpu stress test passed.png
     
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