Malware yes or no

clester

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Tech Support Guy System Info Utility version 1.0.0.9
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 Home, 64 bit, Build 19041, Installed 20210123225046.000000-360
Processor: 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 140 Stepping 1, CPU Count: 8
Total Physical RAM: 16 GB
Graphics Card: Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics, 1024 MB
Hard Drives: C: 460 GB (374 GB Free);
Motherboard: Dell Inc. 09M39P, ver A00, s/n /BQSC863/CNWSC000B80YKE/
System: Dell Inc., ver DELL - 2, s/n BQSC863
Antivirus: Windows Defender, Enabled and Updated

Should I buy Malware Premium to protect my computer is Windows security enough
 

flavallee

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Stick with Windows 10's built-in antivirus app - Windows Security aka Windows Defender.
Do NOT install and use a third-party antivirus app.

There is NO need to pay for third-party security apps because there are plenty of good free ones out there.
The ones that I currently use are:
Malwarebytes AdwCleaner 8.2.0.0
Malwarebytes Free 4.3.0.98
SUPERAntiSpyware Free 10.0.1224


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Couriant

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I think that @clester meant MalwareBytes Premium?

IMO MalwareBytes Premium would work more better for zero-hour malware attacks. I am not familiar with Windows Security's options.

I should really look into that. lol
 
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Well Windows Defender's more potent defenses are only available to Windows Enterprise users. And they don't sell Enterprise to individuals/home users. And you would also need to buy Office 365 ProPlus. All the defenses are tied together in one big bundle. For those who only have Win 10 Pro, the only option is to go with 3rd party products reviewed by AV Comparatives or MRG Effitas.
 

flavallee

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The 4 apps that I mentioned in post #2 works very well for me.
Windows 10's antivirus app is the only one that loads and continually runs in the background.
The other 3 are manually started and updated about every 2 weeks, then a scan done with them.
Rarely, are any threats found and quarantined.
(y)

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Couriant

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The 4 apps that I mentioned in post #2 works very well for me.
Windows 10's antivirus app is the only one that loads and continually runs in the background.
The other 3 are manually started and updated about every 2 weeks, then a scan done with them.
Rarely, are any threats found and quarantined.
(y)

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Well, it all depends on the user and their habits too ;) :D
 

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For those who only have Win 10 Pro, the only option is to go with 3rd party products reviewed by AV Comparatives or MRG Effitas.
I completely disagree with that. "The only option???" Certainly 3rd party products are not the only option.

Windows Defender is good enough to protect you as an antivirus solution. You need also an antimalware solution, free or paid. Malwarebytes is one of the best. AdwCleaner is not an antivirus/antimalware product. It detects adware, and it can be used manually in case we suspect the presence of adware (e.g. pop-ups, browsers redirections etc.).

Have in mind, however, that the free versions have no real time protection, so you have to run Malwarebytes free by yourself once every now and then, depending on how often you use the computer. If you decide to get the paid version of the product, you will have real time protection. Along with the Windows Defender, the built-in Windows 10 antivirus, they can keep you protected. Of course, as Couriant said, "it all depends on the user and their habits too".

Personally, I use Windows Defender along with Malwarebytes Premium and I am very happy with them. In a Windows 10 Home system.
 
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But Dr. M. you are contradicting yourself, you use Malwarebytes too,, and that is a 3rd party product.
 

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But Dr. M. you are contradicting yourself, you use Malwarebytes too,, and that is a 3rd party product.
Yes I do use Malwarebytes. It is my choice. I could certainly stay with WD.

I completely disagreed with the statement:

For those who only have Win 10 Pro, the only option is to go with 3rd party products reviewed by AV Comparatives or MRG Effitas.
 
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I guess I should say, in order to get advanced capabilities like ATP' individuals can't get it from MS, they have to to get 3rd party.
 

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Actually, it's up to the user and the way they use their computer.

Windows Security platform which is offered (built-in) in Windows 10, does not only include Windows Defender. It's a platform that covers everything, even Ransomware protection:

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I prefer to use Malwarebytes as my antimalware solution, but that doesn't mean that Windows Security can't give that too. When it's up to personal choice I just don't like to be strict/dogmatic in favor of certain opinions. :)
 
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Maybe it sounds dogmatic, but it is true the way it exists now, an individual cannot get ATP like functionality without going 3rd party. And MS has no one to blame but itself, because they structured their sales that way. Maybe if you have contacts inside MS, you could lament this to them. However they would just say the market is so small for ATP for individuals that it is not worth pursuing, and creating web ordering pages and work flow etc.
 

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I do not have contacts inside MS. Actually I don't have any relation with the company. But from my experience I conclude that an ordinary user, who follows the safe computing rules, can be secure with Windows Security and it's up to them if they use a 3rd part antimalware solution. The OP asked about free/premium option of Malwarebytes and I explained above the difference. As for me using the Premium solution, there was a period of time they offered a life time license. So, I was one of those who took that chance then. Now it is a yearly subscription.
 

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Enterprise/Endpoint software is for corporations, as already stated, so if something like Advanced Threat Protection in Windows Defender is only available to that market then it means that it contains features that most (if not all) end users (personal use) wouldn't need in their home set up. Third party antivirus companies also have endpoint solutions that would offer more extensive features to users if they were part of that market and needed it but which are not available to end users for personal use either.
 
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Hi Cookiegal, I would have to correct you. As an individual I purchased BitDefender GravityZone (endpoint) and McAfee Endpoint for 3 users, and you can order those products on their web site. I guess MS is content not to pursue the SMB market, some of which really only do have 3 users.
 
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