Solved Malwarebytes - CCleaner - Do I need both?

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OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 Home, 64 bit
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7400 CPU @ 3.00GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 9
Processor Count: 4
RAM: 12196 Mb
Graphics Card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 630, 1024 Mb
Hard Drives: C: 918 GB (797 GB Free);
Motherboard: Dell Inc., 07KY25
Antivirus: Windows Defender, Enabled and Updated

I have Malwarebytes Premium Trial 3.5.1 version and I'm going to purchase the purchased version soon.

I have CCleaner and it seems it's always updating and has become a bit annoying.

I think I understand Malwarebytes and CCleaner perform different functions but do I need both?
 

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I use Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 3.5.1.2522 and Piriform CCleaner 5.46.6522 (both free) in all of my Windows 7/10 computers.
I manually start MBAM every 14 - 15 days and run a scan with it and allow it to remove anything it finds.
I manually start PCC when I need to use it for specific reasons.

The paid version of MBAM runs in the background all the time, so that may cause an issue with Windows 10's built-in Windows Defender Security Center.

There's no need to have PCC running in the background all time.
If you go into its Options - Settings/Monitoring sections, you can disable that from happening.

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I use Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 3.5.1.2522 and Piriform CCleaner 5.46.6522 (both free) in all of my Windows 7/10 computers.
I manually start MBAM every 14 - 15 days and run a scan with it and allow it to remove anything it finds.
I manually start PCC when I need to use it for specific reasons.

The paid version of MBAM runs in the background all the time, so that may cause an issue with Windows 10's built-in Windows Defender Security Center.

There's no need to have PCC running in the background all time.
If you go into its Options - Settings/Monitoring sections, you can disable that from happening.

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Thank you! I believe I'm going to use your solution and it'll save me $40! :)
 
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I use Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 3.5.1.2522 and Piriform CCleaner 5.46.6522 (both free) in all of my Windows 7/10 computers.
I manually start MBAM every 14 - 15 days and run a scan with it and allow it to remove anything it finds.
I manually start PCC when I need to use it for specific reasons.

The paid version of MBAM runs in the background all the time, so that may cause an issue with Windows 10's built-in Windows Defender Security Center.

There's no need to have PCC running in the background all time.
If you go into its Options - Settings/Monitoring sections, you can disable that from happening.

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I didn't realize when I marked this solved that I would have another question!

The version I have is Malwarebytes Premium Trial 3.5.1 and states on the dashboard that it will expire in 12 days.
Doing a search for Malwarebytes Anti-Malware the same site came up for the version that I already have.
Where should I be looking for the version you have?
 

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You probably have the same version already, you can check at Settings > About tab.

I think your Premium Trial version will revert to the free version automatically after it expires.
 

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If you go to Settings - Account Details, you can select the option to use the free version.
When a pop-up appears in the taskbar, select the option that you don't need MBAM to load and run in the background.

Personally, I like the older 2.2.1.1043 version because it has a lot less settings and is easier to use, but I don't believe it works with Windows 10.

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I agree 2.2.1. was easier to use
However as I understand the situation and I will stand corrected
Although 2.2.1. is still receiving updates - as it has reached end of life - those updates are confined to basic security database updates and may not include ALL updates
The situation is explained in detail here
https://www.malwarebytes.com/support/lifecycle/#lifecycle-matrices
and as you say it is not considered fully compatible with the newer build versions of 10, as it was never updated for those versions when it went end of life

That said IMHO the product is not what it was and now has two many variables
https://www.malwarebytes.com/support/guides/mbam/Settings.html

Beta updates - on a protection product ?
Beta Application Updates

Some Malwarebytes users want to try the newest features as soon as they are available, while some prefer to wait until the product is released. We have added this program setting so that if you want the latest and greatest immediately, we can deliver it to you automatically.
I would have liked the idea better if it contained a more substantive warning.
For instance - the use of Beta updates is NOT recommended on general use computers. They are intended for those users who wish to test the update on TEST computers. etc.
 
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I agree 2.2.1. was easier to use
However as I understand the situation and I will stand corrected
Although 2.2.1. is still receiving updates - as it has reached end of life - those updates are confined to basic security database updates and may not include ALL updates
The situation is explained in detail here
https://www.malwarebytes.com/support/lifecycle/#lifecycle-matrices
and as you say it is not considered fully compatible with the newer build versions of 10, as it was never updated for those versions when it went end of life

That said IMHO the product is not what it was and now has two many variables
https://www.malwarebytes.com/support/guides/mbam/Settings.html

Beta updates - on a protection product ?

I would have liked the idea better if it contained a more substantive warning.
For instance - the use of Beta updates is NOT recommended on general use computers. They are intended for those users who wish to test the update on TEST computers. etc.
Should I then uninstall Malwarebytes and that being the case what security/malware application would you recommend?
 

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I recommend you use the included Windows defender
It is free unobtrusive and the most important detail is that - it is always 100% compatible with Windows 10 and all its updates - 100% of the time.

If you then wish to support that with some scan on demand, such as my colleague Flavallee has mentioned he does, with the free Malwarebytes - the expired trial - in your case, then you may use that.

I do not use malwarebytes on 10, as mentioned the earlier version is not compatible with 10 and I do not like the new version. I use ESET online scanner.
https://www.eset.com/us/home/online-scanner/

I do not recommend CCleaner on 10 for the average user. It is certainly unnecessary, as a system maintenance tool on 10. The included automatic file checking, defrag or optimization and then YOU running disk cleanup and of course your browser history, cookies, etc cleanup, will suffice.

If you run CCleaner in default mode you will more than likely experience problems sooner or later.
Please see here
https://forums.techguy.org/threads/...freezing-and-restarting.1214409/#post-9532039
 
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flavallee

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I mainly use Piriform CCleaner in my Windows 7/10 computers to rename my installed apps so they have their correct names and versions.
Its "Cleaner" and "Registry" features don't get used.

I agree with post #9.
If you blindly use it in default mode, you're asking for trouble.

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I recommend you use the included Windows defender
It is free unobtrusive and the most important detail is that - it is always 100% compatible with Windows 10 and all its updates - 100% of the time.

If you then wish to support that with some scan on demand, such as my colleague Flavallee has mentioned he does, with the free Malwarebytes - the expired trial - in your case, then you may use that.

I do not use malwarebytes on 10, as mentioned the earlier version is not compatible with 10 and I do not like the new version. I use ESET online scanner.
https://www.eset.com/us/home/online-scanner/

I do not recommend CCleaner on 10 for the average user. It is certainly unnecessary, as a system maintenance tool on 10. The included automatic file checking, defrag or optimization and then YOU running disk cleanup and of course your browser history, cookies, etc cleanup, will suffice.

If you run CCleaner in default mode you will more than likely experience problems sooner or later.
Please see here
https://forums.techguy.org/threads/...freezing-and-restarting.1214409/#post-9532039
Okay, think I've got it and thanks so much for all the information!
 
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I mainly use Piriform CCleaner in my Windows 7/10 computers to rename my installed apps so they have their correct names and versions.
Its "Cleaner" and "Registry" features don't get used.

I agree with post #9.
If you blindly use it in default mode, you're asking for trouble.

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I appreciate all the great assistance I get from you! Now I can say my inquiry is 'solved'! Thank you!!!
 
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