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May have killed my OS by shredding 2 software drivers, could use advice

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by conceptualclarit, Feb 12, 2015.

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  1. conceptualclarit

    conceptualclarit Thread Starter

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    I had been having blue screen problems with my old Dell XP. The programs WhoCrashed and BlueScreenView implicated a few drivers of non-essential software as the culprits. I examined the drivers module in AutoRuns (by Sysinternals) and carefully selected non-essential software drivers for disabling of their autostart status by unchecking the box in AutoRuns. (I avoided hardware drivers, Microsoft drivers, and drivers for actual autostart programs.) Three times when I restarted after this limited driver-autostart disabling I got the STOP: 0X0000007B blue screen. I was in effect forced to use Last Known Good Configuration on the subsequent startups, and this restored all the autostarts I had disabled. To test what was going on, I shut down my system without disabling any driver autostarts, and the system started normally.

    I tried disabling via AutoRuns only two files in the system32\drivers folders that were implicated in previous blue screens : wrkrn.sys (associated with Webroot, which after expiration had continued on my system as an on-demand scanner) and vvbackd5.sys (associated with a FarStone program which I had not yet chosen to utilize). I got the STOP: 0X0000007B blue screen again. After this in my frustration I shredded wrkrn.sys and vvbackd5.sys.

    Really bad move. After this I continually get the STOP: 0X0000007B blue screen when I try to start the computer. On the next try I will get the menu that offers "Safe Mode" and "Last Known Good Configuration", etc., but those options lead only to more STOP: 0X0000007B blue screens. I had deleted those two drivers previously without problems, but it had been after moving them out of system32\drivers. (And of course, the drivers had been recreated.)

    I know it's academic at this point, but what do you think I could have done with those drivers without creating the mess I created? Maybe I should have just uninstalled the programs although I preferred not to.

    I took my computer to one repairman, and he said it couldn't be fixed. I want more opinions.

    I have a new computer I will be setting up soon, but I had really wanted to keep this one as a second computer to use for limited purposes, including substituting if the new one has to go to the repair shop.

    I also want to recover everything off the old Dell. The repairman said he didn't think I would be able to recover my Outlook Express emails. What do you think? I could set up a virtual XP on my new computer and possibly get my Outlook Express emails that way, I think.

    The repairman said I could use an IDE to USB adaptor to drag and drop files and folders from the old Dell XP to my new computer, although he doesn't think that will work for restoring Outlook Express emails. A good adaptor of this sort can be had for as little as $20 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0063JN3WE/...p;linkCode=asn). Any advice about this procedure?

    I have Laplink PC Mover Ultimate. I called Laplink support late at night. The technician said he that in order to use Laplink PC Mover Ultimate in this situation I would have to fix my old computer first. He said he could help me do that, interestingly enough. But he said I would have to sign up for a year of iYogi support for my two computers at $299. Ouch! And that's more than double the subscription price at http://www.iyogi.net/.

    So do you think my old computer can be fixed? Any advice on any points raised here would be welcome.



    Computer: Dell System B3 Desktop
    CPU: Intel Pentium 4-2667 (Northwood, D1)
    2666 MHz (20.00x133.3) @ 2657 MHz (20.00x132.9)
    Motherboard: DELL 0G1548
    Chipset: Intel 845GEV (Brookdale-GEV) + ICH4
    Memory: 2048 MBytes @ 166 MHz, 2.5-3-3-7
    - 1024 MB PC3200 DDR-SDRAM - Kingston K
    Graphics: Intel 82845G/GL/GV Graphics Controller [DELL]
    Intel i845G(L) Integrated, 64 MB
    Drive: ST380011A, 78.1 GB, E-IDE (ATA-6)
    Drive: HGST HTS545050A7E380, 488.4 GB, Serial ATA 3Gb/s <-> USB
    Drive: SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-252S, CD-R Writer
    Sound: Creative Technology SB Live! Series Audio Processor
    Network: RealTek Semiconductor RTL8139 PCI Fast Ethernet NIC [A/B/C]
    Network: Broadcom 4401 10/100 Integrated Controller
    OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Build 2600 SP3
     
  2. TonyB25

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    If the hard drive didn't crash, you can copy all your data off of it.

    I can't tell from your post what's broken. It's a really old computer.
     
  3. mpeet611

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    Outlook express is only available with windows xp so before you move your email messages to your new machine i would try installing a new email program like Microsoft Outlook (The one that comes with office) or Windows Live Mail on your xp machine & transfer everything from outlook express to whatever program you choose (Windows Live Mail should do this automatically when you open it the very first time) then export it to the same program on your new computer.

    If windows won't boot normally try safe mode with networking so you can still download the new email program from the web.
     
  4. mpeet611

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    The adapter will make your old hard drive look like a usb flash drive when it's connected to the new computer so you would have the same view as clicking on C drive in my computer. If you do this procedure i would only transfer your personal files from C:/Documents and Settings/{your user account name} to your new machine. Your outlook express data is in a hidden folder that's somewhere in this folder. Most of the files for your installed programs are in C:/Program Files but i don't recommend copying them because they won't work without the registry files that can't be accessed in this procedure so a clean reinstall of your programs is recommended. The folder C:/Windows contains all the files for your windows xp operating system & copying them is also not recommended because those files won't work on your new machine & you don't want the problem from xp to find it's way into your new machine & break that one as well. As for your email messages read my first post.
     
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