Memory leak or hog or ???

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Monkey Boy

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All of the sudden--with no software installation or reconfig that I can blame--my Windows 98 machine is giving me an error that says

"Not enough memory is available. Quit some programs."

P3 with 256MB RAM. Memmon shows about 6% physical memory and 95% virtual available.

When I kill everything running--and even clean out the system tray--it goes up to 8% physical.

When I boot into safe mode, it goes to 75% physical. All counts on the memory seem to indicate the RAM is fine. So something seems to be stealing all my physical memory at Win98 launch.

Please help! Thanks!
 
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Just running Windows takes a lot of system resources, moving the mouse, displaying the GUI. The processe you see running when you do an alt-ctrl-del are not the only ones running. I would still suspect a hardware or crappy driver problem. Make sure you have the latest drivers and that your system is not running in DOS compatibility mode. To check this, right click my computer and go to properties, click the performance tab and it should tell you there.
 

Monkey Boy

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Fortunately, System properties shows "optimal performance," and File System is "32-bit."

I cleared up a question mark in Device Manager (by removing the unknown device--so that still is unresolved) and still I'm at 32% physical memory. I've never had problems running the programs I'm trying to run, or--the biggest problem--sharing folders from my XP machine. Now, everytime I browse to the shared folders, I get that memory error.

Thanks for the tip. If you think of other things to check, please let me know those, too.
 

WhitPhil

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Out of memory errors are generally related to System Resource problems.
After a fresh boot, from Explorer, do Help > About

If the percentage is not in the mid-80's range, you most likely have too many apps starting.
This site will help you identify the unnecessary ones.

The other possibility is spyware. Download and run Spy Bot to check.
 

Monkey Boy

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Problem still exists. Spyware checks turned up nothing. Virus checks are updated and clean. No conflicts in Device Manager.

I downloaded a utility called RAMPage and it will free up memory manually, but over time (maybe an hour) I drop again from 85% physical memory free down to 6% free--even if I'm not otherwise using the computer. So I've definitely got a leak, or something is little by little taking over my computer.

If anybody can help, please let me know.

The most frustrating part is that, even when I manually clear up to 85% physical memory, when I try to browse a shared folder (to my XP machine) the Win98 machine still gets that "not enough memory available" error. With 85% physical memory free and 94% of a huge virtual disk free, how can I not have enough memory available?

Thanks for any advice you can share.
 

WhitPhil

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You didn't indicate what your Resource percentage was at boot time?
Also, is virtual memory Windows managed or have you changed the settings?
 

Monkey Boy

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WhitPhil: Fresh boot shows 64% system resources free, and MemMon shows less than 20% physical memory free.

Triple6: I'll download and post.

Thanks to you both!
 

Monkey Boy

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Logfile of HijackThis v1.97.7
Scan saved at 9:29:29 PM, on 4/25/04
Platform: Windows 98 SE (Win9x 4.10.2222A)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
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C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSGSRV32.EXE
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C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSTASK.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ZONELABS\VSMON.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SSDPSRV.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\HIDSERV.EXE
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C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.EXE
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C:\PROGRAM FILES\NETROPA\ONSCREEN DISPLAY\OSD.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\NORTON ANTIVIRUS\NAVAPW32.EXE
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C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\RAMPAGE\RAMPAGE.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\RunDLL.exe
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C:\PROGRAM FILES\NETPERSEC10\NETPERSEC.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\RAPIDRES\RAPIDRES.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\NETROPA\ONE-TOUCH MULTIMEDIA KEYBOARD\MMUSBKB2.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\DESKTOP\MEMMOM\MEMMON.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMIEXE.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\PSTORES.EXE
C:\PROGRAM FILES\WINZIP70\WINZIP32.EXE
F:\HIJACKTHIS.EXE

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