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msgina.dll fails to load

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by jmc, Oct 12, 2002.

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  1. jmc

    jmc Thread Starter

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    My formerly cool computer continues to tick me off! I've been having a hardware problem, which I've traced to the video card slot, and am currently troubleshooting. The problem will cause my computer to completely fail to start - BIOS codes and all that. Working on it though, this isn't my question.

    An unrelated problem has cropped up, though, perhaps related to problems I posted earlier...

    Usually (but not always) after reboot, I'll get an error that msgina.dll failed to load. It suggests copying over a new one. I've done that, and it still fails to load on the first cold boot, but loads on reboot.

    Anybody here seen this before, and can offer suggestions?

    (on a side note, what do you use - besides an eraser - to clean the contacts on your AGP or PCI boards?)
     
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    The file has something to do with Winlogon. Look HERE for some info on this. Also, a search of MSGINA on GOOGLE provided a wealth of info on why you are having your problem.

    To clean contacts, I use Ethanol obtainable from a electronics shop, maybe Radio Shack It's the oils from your hands etc etc that can cause contacts to erode.
     
  3. jmc

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    I had googled for an answer before posting.. tried again with a different search, but still haven't found an answer that fits my situation. I did note that it seems to be a common enough problem for Windows 200o Pro SP3...

    I've already tried replacing msgina.dll, to no avail. I saved the old file as *.sav, and replaced it with a copy from the D:\WINNT\ServicePackFiles\i386 folder. Hmmm. now that I think about it, perhaps I should copy an OLDER version of the file. Had to do that with the scsiport.sys file when the system started having problems with that file right after installing SP3...

    I don't have problems with msgina.dll every time, either: after posting earlier today, I left my computer, came back to find it frozen again (darn, gotta work on that!) and when I rebooted, it did so without a hitch.

    I hadn't installed any new software before I started receiving the error, but I *have* been having system problems - quite suddenly last week the system wouldn't boot - just gave a BIOS beep code for bad/missing DRAM - traced that to (possibly; not so sure now) a DDR RAM stick gone bad. Removed it, rebooted and all was well - for about a day. Then I got the same boot error. I was pretty sure there was actually nothing wrong with the other stick. I'll keep the story short: During troubleshooting, eventually the system gave a different BIOS code, one that indicated it couldn't see the video card.

    Haven't finished troubleshooting, but I either have dirty contacts on the card or the AGP slot, or problems with the circuitry - the RAM slots and the AGP are quite close together at their ends... eliciting a "hmmm..." from me when I put that fact together with the two BIOS beep codes. The RAM slots are *very* tight. I think I may have just learned that purchasing a lubricating contact cleaner would be a good investment...

    At any rate, after the first time this happened, I had system freezes, and during troubleshooting I deleted a few devices (duplicates) in safe mode, causing Windows (for some reason) to lose apparently ALL the drivers, but it reinstalled them all. Had a bit of trouble with the onboard Promise controller drivers, but eventually got the system running. This is when the msgina.dll error started happening - after the drivers reload.

    :rolleyes: Hmmm... I'm thinking I already have the answers to my questions: buy some lubricating contact cleaner, clean the card contacts and slots, and replace msgina.dll with the older version from the CD.

    Waddaya think?
     
  4. jmc

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    Well...

    I did as I said, and took the system apart, cleaned all the contacts, replaced the cards, etc. Removed the heatsink, noted that there was quite a bit of dust around the CPU, and decided (for no readily apparent reason) to install the CPU shim that I purchased and didn't use before - at the time I thought since the new heatsink/fan went on pretty easily, it didn't need the shim. I was right.

    First boot, got the memory error. Pulled the bad memory that I'd put back in (yes indeedy it is bad). Subsequent boots, nada, then a hot electronics smell. Not good - I was letting the smoke out! Fried the CPU.

    Just went out and bought the cheapest CPU I could find (for testing) - a Duron 850. Everything is running well - for now. I had tried installing the "possibly" bad RAM, got the RAM BIOS error, removed & rebooted, and all seems well.

    Now I gotta post a problem on my *other* system, when I tried to get online last night. Not my week for computers....
     
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