My new gaming rig

[Techno_Snoop]

So after bugging my dad for many many months i finally am getting my new gaming rig. I will be buying it from a local computer store as my dad knows the owner well and were gettin a bit of a deal. We can also get it fixed/serviced for cheap. So anyways heres the specs... Partly my ideas partly the computer store.

- Colours-IT Medium Tower ATX Case & Blue Storm 500 Watt Power Supply (Black)
- ABIT AMD Athlon 64 Motherboard (3 Year Warranty)
- AMD Athlon-64, 3200+ Processor
- 1 Gig (2 x 512 Meg) DDR-400 Memory
- Panasonic 1.44 Meg Floppy Disk Drive (Black)
- Seagate 80 Gig, 7200 RPM Hard Disk Drive (5 Year Warranty)
- ATI All In Wonder 9600, 128 Meg AGP Video Card
- LG 17" LCD Display
- Logitech LX-700 Cordless Keyboard & Mouse Combo
- Integrated Digital Audio
- LG CDRW / DVD Combo Drive
- Creative Labs Inspire T5400 Speaker System
- NO FAX MODEM
- Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
- Integrated 10/100 Network Interface
- MGE Power Bar Surge Suppressor
- MGE UPS
- AVER Media ULTRA TV 1500MCE

$2,176.95


The price is canadian, and i can't go up much. Mainly the video crad doesnt look very good and i dont think I really need a 500 watt ps supply. I was goin to be gettin a x300 video card but I have been told they don't currently have a motherboard with pci express and the socket for a amd processor. Any ideas?

 

[cheese]

Yes, they do now have PCIE for AMD.

According to a conversion, thats around 1800 US. I think you can do much better then that, but i dont know anything bout "UPS" prices. What socket is the processor?

 

[Techno_Snoop]

754 i believe... I'm pretty sure the store just doesn't have the mother boards in stock and maybe they cant get them yet?

 

[funkdmonkey]

http://www.canadacomputers.com/
I bought my computer from there for only $1300.(CAN)

My specs are:
ASUS p4p800-e deluxe
420 Thermaltek psu
3ghz intel p4 with ht
1024 ram
ATi AIW 9800pro
DVD Burner 16x
200gig, 7200 rpm western digital
Simple case
Logitek mouse and keyboard
Windows xp pro with sp2
Other stuff, no monitor

So i bet my store is way more cheaper then yours. That cost me $1300 back in october last year, now it should be around $1000.

Your computer itself is actually pretty good, video card could be better but is pretty decent. You will get good gaming and multimedia function(AIW for a reason right?)

Bottom line-Pretty decent computer at a not so decent price.

 

[McTimson]

That's $1700 US....that seems like an awful lot for a computer....

I just threw all of those parts onto a wish list on Newegg, and it came to about $1200 US....so they're charging you $500 US more than what you could get if you just built it yourself...and I wasn't even trying to save money. If you wanted, you could go for a slower processor (2800+ saves you $70, and you can easily overclock it back up to 3200+ speeds), which gives you more money to get a better video card, like a Radeon 9800 or 9800 Pro.

edit: wait...why are you getting the AIW Radeon and a seperate TV tuner card? Doesn't the AIW have a TV tuner on it?

 

[Techno_Snoop]

That's $1700 US....that seems like an awful lot for a computer....

I just threw all of those parts onto a wish list on Newegg, and it came to about $1200 US....so they're charging you $500 US more than what you could get if you just built it yourself...and I wasn't even trying to save money. If you wanted, you could go for a slower processor (2800+ saves you $70, and you can easily overclock it back up to 3200+ speeds), which gives you more money to get a better video card, like a Radeon 9800 or 9800 Pro.

edit: wait...why are you getting the AIW Radeon and a seperate TV tuner card? Doesn't the AIW have a TV tuner on it?

Thats partly what i was thinking. Why would i need two? should't i only need one? I believe the other tv tuner is over 100$ And im not sure if you all notice but thats also got a 17" LG flat panel monitor.

 

[Techno_Snoop]

Made a similar computer using basically the only other place i could get it from

MysteryByte Computers
Shopping List Quote
Wednesday Mar 9, 2005

Quantity Part # Product Description Unit Price Ext. Price


1 S645 Custom Built AMD 64 Custom Desktop $2022 $2022.00
9892 AMD - Athlon-64 2.2Ghz, S-754 32/64 Bit, 512K, (3200+), Retail Box $268.00
10308 ABIT KV8 Pro (K8T800Pro, 8xAGP, 2xDDR, 2xSATA Raid, GbL, 6Ch Audio) $110.00
9919 CoolerMaster CAVALIER 3, Side Window w/out P/S (Silver w/ Blue) $138.00
8752 Aspire X-SuperAlien 500W P.S. (Black) "See Through" w/ Dual Blue Led Fans (12V is 34A) $89.00
9764 Corsair 1GB 400MHZ PC3200 DDR CAS-3, (Ltd. Lifetime) $279.00
7878 Samsung 80GB 7200RPM ATA-133 2MB, 3YR $82.00
9907 ATI "Sapphire" Radeon 9800 Atlantis Pro 128MB DDR 256Bit CRT/DVI/TV-Out, LITE Boxed $306.00
10143 LG GSA4160BB BLACK DVD±RW (16X+) (8X-) OEM , DL w/ S/W $92.00
8991 Altec Lansing 121 (Black) - 3pcs PC Multimedia System - w/ Sub $39.00
7065 Logitech Cordless Optical Elite MX Duo Key & MX-700 Mouse (USB/PS/2) Retail $99.00
10237 LG L1710S LCD (Silver/Charcoal) 17-Inch / 1280 x 1024 / 16ms / 3YR MFG $394.00
1089 Built-In 10/100 Network Card $0.00
7188 MS Windows XP Home Edition w/ 1 user Licence CD Key & Manual (English) (OEM) $126.00
185 1 Year Parts & Labour System Warranty $0.00



All Prices are listed in Canadian Dollars.
Applicable shipping charges are not included.
Taxes have been calculated for: Nova Scotia SubTotal 2022.00
HST 303.30
Total $2325.30

so thats 200 dollars more and not the same specs

 

[bobcoolos]

Personally i think that this guy is getting riped off for $1800 US./$2,176.95 CAN.

Let me post back with some specs and see if i can offer him a plan that may be cheaper and make a better PC.

 

[Techno_Snoop]

Cheaper would be nicer... but I'm still going to spend that much... So a better computer for the same price would be more helpful

 

[bobcoolos]

Mobo/CPU Combo *Abit Mobo/AMD 64 3400+ 939pin*
$269.99

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1171993&CatId=1619
-------------------------------------------------------------------
RAM *Corsair XMS pc3200 DDR 400 1GB 2x 512 sticks*
$189.00
Model#: TWINX1024-3200C2PT
Item#: N82E16820145450

HDD *Western Digital 80 GB*
$66.00
Model#: WD800JD
Item#: N82E16822135106

Video Card *ATI Radeon 9800 pro All in Wonder 128mb*
$249.00
Model#: 100-713100
Item#: N82E16814102297

Combo Drive *Liteon*
$38.50
Write Speed: 52X CD-R, 32X CD-RW
Read Speed: 52X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
Model#: SOHC-5232K BBULK
Item#: N82E16827106932

DVD Dual Drive *Liteon*
$68.00
Write Speed: DVD+R9 2.4X, DVD+R 16X, DVD-R 8X, DVD+RW 4X, DVD-RW 4X, CD-R 48X, CD-RW 24X
Read Speed: 48X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
Model#: SOHW-1633S BLK
Item#: N82E16827106962

http://newegg.com/

Price for the Parts is................. $889.40 US.
--------------------------------------------------------------

You will still need..........
An OS (Windows Xp Pro or Home)
1.44 Drive
Case of your choice
Audio Card (if u want one)

-I only chose the Video card so you could still the TV options.
-The 939 pin socket makes sure you can use your RAM in Dual Chanal (754 pin socket, no support)

If your are still willing to pay as much as you were i could get you somthing better, like.................

-PCI Express (for a better Video Card with the TV options)
-DDR 2
-Better CPU/Board
-Bigger Hard Drive
-ETC..........


*I plan on Building somthing similer to this when i get my tax money back. But bla bla bla. : D

 

[Techno_Snoop]

Mobo/CPU Combo *Abit Mobo/AMD 64 3400+ 939pin*
$269.99

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1171993&CatId=1619
-------------------------------------------------------------------
RAM *Corsair XMS pc3200 DDR 400 1GB 2x 512 sticks*
$189.00
Model#: TWINX1024-3200C2PT
Item#: N82E16820145450

HDD *Western Digital 80 GB*
$66.00
Model#: WD800JD
Item#: N82E16822135106

Video Card *ATI Radeon 9800 pro All in Wonder 128mb*
$249.00
Model#: 100-713100
Item#: N82E16814102297

Combo Drive *Liteon*
$38.50
Write Speed: 52X CD-R, 32X CD-RW
Read Speed: 52X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
Model#: SOHC-5232K BBULK
Item#: N82E16827106932

DVD Dual Drive *Liteon*
$68.00
Write Speed: DVD+R9 2.4X, DVD+R 16X, DVD-R 8X, DVD+RW 4X, DVD-RW 4X, CD-R 48X, CD-RW 24X
Read Speed: 48X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
Model#: SOHW-1633S BLK
Item#: N82E16827106962

http://newegg.com/

Price for the Parts is................. $889.40 US.
--------------------------------------------------------------

You will still need..........
An OS (Windows Xp Pro or Home)
1.44 Drive
Case of your choice
Audio Card (if u want one)

-I only chose the Video card so you could still the TV options.
-The 939 pin socket makes sure you can use your RAM in Dual Chanal (754 pin socket, no support)

If your are still willing to pay as much as you were i could get you somthing better, like.................

-PCI Express (for a better Video Card with the TV options)
-DDR 2
-Better CPU/Board
-Bigger Hard Drive
-ETC..........


*I plan on Building somthing similer to this when i get my tax money back. But bla bla bla. : D

hmm... unfortunatly since i live in Canada I can't order from newegg.

 

[Techno_Snoop]

MysteryByte Computers
Shopping List

Sunday Feb 6, 2005
Remove Quantity Part # Product Description Unit Price Ext. Price
10261 AMD - Athlon-64 2.0Ghz, S-939 32/64 Bit, 512K, (3200+), Retail Box $278.00 $278.00
9779 ABIT AV8 (S939 K8T800PRO,Dual-DDR400, SATA RAID, 6CH AUDIO, GB-LAN, Firewire, 4USB2.0) $167.00 $167.00
10541 OCZ Premier 1024MB (2x512) Dual Channal Kit 2.5-3-3-7 (Ltd. Lifetime) $247.00 $247.00
7688 WD Caviar 800JB (80GB) 7200RPM ATA-100 8MB, 3YR $90.00 $90.00
8480 ATI "Sapphire" Advantage Radeon 9600 Pro 128DDR 128Bit, Dual, TV-Out, Lite Retail Box,2YR MFG $145.00 $145.00
10184 LG 16XDVD/52X CDRW (BLACK) Combo Drive w/ NERO $52.00 $52.00
10399 Viper Black w/ Red Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ 500w $144.00 $144.00
7186 Panasonic (Black) 1.44MB Floppy Drive $14.00 $14.00
10321 LG L1715SK LCD (Black) 17-Inch / 1280 x 1024 / 16ms / 3YR MFG $394.00 $394.00
7188 MS Windows XP Home Edition w/ 1 user Licence CD Key & Manual (English) (OEM) $126.00 $126.00
7065 Logitech Cordless Optical Elite MX Duo Key & MX-700 Mouse (USB/PS/2) Retail $99.00 $99.00
10387 Creative Inspire P5800 6PC 5.1 Speaker System - 72W $104.00 $104.00

All Prices are listed in Canadian Dollars.
Show Taxes For: - - -AlbertaBritish ColumbiaManitobaNew BrunswickNewfoundlandNova ScotiaNorthwest TerritoryOntarioPrince Edward IslandQuebecSaskatchewanYukon
SubTotal 1860.00
HST 279.00
Total $2139.00


similar but missing a couple things... Im pretty sure im not being ripped off. Ok now can someone figure why i would have 2 tv tuners? Also what would be a better video card for 100$ or so more. What were you sayin about the sockets for the processor? Should i go with the 939? Also do you guys think there much point in the nice keyboard and mouse combo? And finally is there any point in a 500 watt power supply?

 

[bobcoolos]

Let me see if i can get the same or simler stuff all from TigerDirect.com

 

[bobcoolos]

Ok All From TigerDirect.com.....................

Mobo/CPU Combo *Abit Mobo/AMD 64 3400+ 939pin*
$269.99
Item #: MBM-AV8-3400
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1171993&CatId=1619

RAM *Corsair XMS pc3200 DDR 400 1GB 2x 512 sticks*
$189.00
Item #: C13-5102 PT
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=618631


HDD *Western Digital 80 GB 8mb Buffer*
Item #: THD-80JB P
$74.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=322750

Video Card *ATI Radeon 9800 pro All in Wonder 128mb*
$279.99
Item #: A177-3027
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=612489&CatId=1244

DVD ROM *Aopen* (sorry couldn’t find a combo drive and its not a liteon and dosn’t burn CDs. You will just have to use the other drive below, it does everything. This drive just reads)
$29.99
Item #:A457-4002
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1159834&CatId=88

DVD Dual Drive *Liteon*
Item #: L12-1012
$67.99
Write Speed: DVD+R9 2.4X, DVD+R 16X, DVD-R 8X, DVD+RW 4X, DVD-RW 4X, CD-R 48X, CD-RW 24X
Read Speed: 48X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1168814&CatId=482

Price.................. $911.95 US.

 

[Techno_Snoop]

Ok All From TigerDirect.com.....................

Mobo/CPU Combo *Abit Mobo/AMD 64 3400+ 939pin*
$269.99
Item #: MBM-AV8-3400
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1171993&CatId=1619

RAM *Corsair XMS pc3200 DDR 400 1GB 2x 512 sticks*
$189.00
Item #: C13-5102 PT
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=618631


HDD *Western Digital 80 GB 8mb Buffer*
Item #: THD-80JB P
$74.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=322750

Video Card *ATI Radeon 9800 pro All in Wonder 128mb*
$279.99
Item #: A177-3027
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=612489&CatId=1244

DVD ROM *Aopen* (sorry couldn’t find a combo drive and its not a liteon and dosn’t burn CDs. You will just have to use the other drive below, it does everything. This drive just reads)
$29.99
Item #:A457-4002
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1159834&CatId=88

DVD Dual Drive *Liteon*
Item #: L12-1012
$67.99
Write Speed: DVD+R9 2.4X, DVD+R 16X, DVD-R 8X, DVD+RW 4X, DVD-RW 4X, CD-R 48X, CD-RW 24X
Read Speed: 48X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1168814&CatId=482

Price.................. $911.95 US.

not saving much at all here. Your missing mouse/keyboard, OS, monitor, speakers, power bar. Maybe some other stuff. Anyways I will be buying from the computer store. So can someone try to answer my questions?

Why do I have 2 tv tuners? Also what would be a better video card for 100$ or so more. What were you sayin about the sockets for the processor? Should i go with the 939? Also do you guys think there much point in the nice keyboard and mouse combo? And finally is there any point in a 500 watt power supply?

And I have an idea... If i go socket 939 they might have a mobo with pci epress thatll work with it. Ill try to check. So two options would be nice, With and Without PCI express