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LivOnCofee

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Epox 8RDA3+ w/ AMD XP2800
Crucial 512mb DDR 3200 (took the other one out b/c of the W98 issue)
MSI GeForce FX5200
500W psu

Problem 1: System resource issue

Everything is recognized in the BIOS, but when it gets to the start up screen, it sits there for over a minute before it finally decides to finish booting up. Start to finish, it takes about 2 1/2 minutes. Even at the very start, system resources are at 69%. Now, with only the modem and netscape running, system resources are at 43%. This is ridiculous. Even before I started to add programs, it would take forever to boot up. I've used the Epox book and double-checked all the settings in the BIOS.

Problem 2: Windows installer issue

After the Fdisk and reformat of the hard drive, I thought I'd licked the problem of windows installing things over and over again, but apparently it's back again. In normal mode, device manager shows 3 motherboard resources, 5 NVIDIA nforce2 memory controller, 2 PCI-to-PCI bridge. (I'm almost afraid to view it in safe mode). If I remove anything, windows puts them right back when I restart. If I do it manually, I still get multiple entries.

Problem 3: Video issue

After I've been online awhile, I'll open up a new tab and the video freaks out. It starts with a black outline around the open tab, then seems to spread to the rest of the browser window. Sometimes I can close the browser, other times, I have to do C-A-D to close it.

I have uninstalled, reinstalled both the mobo drivers and the video drivers. I even reset the agp to less than 8x in the BIOS. No change. Checked for updated drivers. Already have them. DirectX 8.1 finds no problems; Dr. Watson finds no problems. Spybot S&D, system file checker--all OK.

I've taken everything out, even going through regedit to clear all the leftovers; installed mobo drivers, then vid card drivers; next, modem. Finally DVD writer and software.

Same thing, same problems, every single time.

BTW: Could there be a conflict between the mobo and vid card drivers, since they're both nvidia nforce2?

I'm at a loss. I don't know what else to try. At this point, I'm so frustrated, I'm ready to send it all back.
 

dai

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the slow start sounds like it is caused by a driver send your email and i will send you bootvis to run a check,i think there is a patch to get 98 to recognise more ram
check your fans are operating
have you any programs running in the background i.e virus checker
 

LivOnCofee

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OK, fans. 6 case fans, 1 heatsink fan, 1 north bridge fan, 1 vid card fan. All are running. System temp runs around 36C, right now, it's 32C.

Just installed Norton AV2003 and ran virus check. No problems. Autoprotect now running in the background.

Weird question and a bit OT, but, the case came with two, 2-wire molex labeled "DC 12V" (one which doesn't work), and another 2-wire molex labeled "Output 0.3A 4 fan max 1.2A." The case didn't come with any destructions, so I'm just guessing they're for the case fans? I connected three of the fans to the DC 12V, and the other 3 to a regular molex. Is that right?
 

dai

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just so everyone is up to date,in emailsuggest checking power requirements with that many fans
 

LivOnCofee

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Total power requirement is 430W. This includes all the fans, and even accounts for another stick of ram and another hd.

Will do the bootvis and get back to you.
 

LivOnCofee

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No go on the Bootvis. Keep getting error message, "linked to missing export advapi32.dll: Enum Services Status Ex..."

Extracted advapi32.dll from W98 disk & restarted, twice. Downloaded the dll, extracted, restarted. Even tried executing bootvis in dos. Same error message.
 

dai

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sorry i forgot you were using 98 bootvis is xp
have you got the latesest nforce drivers i think they are 2.5
in 98 run the file checker from memory
start/access/system checker/tools file checker
i will see if i can get someone up to date on 98 onto the thread
 

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Hi dai, I had a look here earlier. If it's a new install on a clean hard drive, there shouldn't be software issues.....also, the temps sound ok.....the only other thing to check is what's loading in the autoexec.bat and config.sys files, and perhaps an IRQ conflict.....

Start button, run, then type msinfo32 and hit ok...go to hardware, IRQs, edit, select all, edit, copy and come back and paste.

I'm assuming you are on this machine right now????

If we have no IRQ conflicts, then I would lean towards sending it back.
 

dai

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thanks acacandy i don't have access to 98 at the moment and memories not the best on it
 

~Candy~

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I'm still running 98 FE on this one, *sigh* I must upgrade this one at some point ;) or get a new one :D
 

LivOnCofee

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Sorry, had to walk away from this for a few minutes--too flusterated. Here's the IRQ info:

0 System timer
1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
2 Programmable interrupt controller
3 Communications Port (COM2)
4 Communications Port (COM1)
5 PCI OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
5 Standard OpenHCI USB Host Controller
5 NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management
5 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
5 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
5 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
5 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
6 Standard Floppy Disk Controller
7 Printer Port (LPT1)
8 System CMOS/real time clock
9 SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus
10 MPU-401 Compatible
11 MSI MS-StarForce GeForce FX 5200 (NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200)
11 Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
11 C-Media AC97 Audio Device
11 NVIDIA USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
11 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
11 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
11 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
12 Intel(R) 536EP Modem
12 NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Adapter
12 Standard OpenHCI USB Host Controller
12 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
12 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
12 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
13 Numeric data processor
14 Primary IDE controller (single fifo)
14 Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller
15 Secondary IDE controller (single fifo)
15 Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller
 

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Holy crap, I don't think I've seen a mess like that in a long time :eek:

Anything connected to the serial ports? or the printer port? Anything there that you aren't using? Modem? How do you connect to the internet?
 

LivOnCofee

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Just found this in problem devices section of msinfo:

ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering System
This Device Has a Problem: Code=9 (0x9)
Device failure: Try changing the driver for this device. If that doesn't work,
see your hardware documentation.
Registry Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\ACPI\*PNP0C0F\00000011
Alloc resources: None
Forced resources: None
Boot resources: None
Filtered resources: None
Basic resources: None
Driver: System\0004
Driver Date: 4-23-1999

There are multiple entries, the same as above, just different registry keys:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\ACPI\*PNP0C0F\00000012
" " " "" "1A, 1B, 1C, 1D, 1E, 1F, 20, and 21

Only problem is, I have no earthly idea what all this means.
 

LivOnCofee

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Just remembered, the ACP...IRQ steering was an issue on my first thread:

http://forums.techguy.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164279&highlight=woes

Since I stopped getting the multiple (like 26) entries after fdisking and reformatting the hard drive, I guess I had forgotten about that problem.

Truth is, I'm way out of my league, here. I'm so lost at the moment, I don't think I could find my way out of a round room with a road map and a GPS system.
 
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