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  1. draclan12

    draclan12 Thread Starter

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    I'm building myself a new computer and I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations on what I should/shouldn't buy.

    Here's what I got so far.

    Antec VSK-2000 Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX X58 SLI LE Intel Motherboard
    Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920
    VisionTek 900301 Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ

    I already have a 620w Antec PSU that I'm going to use for it.

    Anything I can improve upon? I'll be using this for 3D modeling, video editing and gaming.
     
  2. crjdriver

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    Just two things;
    1 I would spend a few dollars more on a better case. That one is a bottom of the line antec
    2 For $20 more I would install this XFX 5770 it has a better cooling system. The hot air is exhausted out the back of the case rather than just spread around inside the case.

    I am not a fan of evga mb however if you are happy with it, fine. I did check and there are a LOT of bios updates for that board. Having a lot of updates to support new cpus is one thing however many of them list problem fixes in the notes. Not really what I look for in a board.
     
  3. draclan12

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    I didn't put too much thought into a case.. I usually keep my case open so I dunno if that'll have any effect on it. Would this Antec 300 be alright? As for the video card, I can definitely consider getting that one instead.

    What mobo would you get instead of the evga one? This is my first complete build so I dunno what's necessarily good or bad.
     
  4. crjdriver

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    Much better choice on the case. As for mb, I prefer either gigabyte or asus boards. Here is a gigabyte board that will work for you Gigabyte mb or here is an asus board Asus board
     
  5. draclan12

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    Okay, so I went thru and redid the whole entire build again..

    Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard
    XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (two of these)
    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ
    AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX

    I decided to change to the AMD Phenom II 3.2Ghz Quad Core processor because it's a whole lot cheaper and also went to go with 2x 5770 on CrossFire with the money I saved gettin the other CPU.

    Is this a good choice or not?

    As of now the price is $783.90 which is fine with me.
     
  6. Triple6

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    Have you seen this board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131651
    Its based on the new AMD 870 chipset and has USB 3.0 and SATA 6GB/s, but no CrossFireX.

    Or this one has all those features plus CrossFireX(AMD 880 based): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131646

    And instead of two 5770's you can get a 5850 which is near the same performance of the two 5770's without any of the issues: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125318

    I use to be against CrossFire and SLI but they've worked out most of the bugs, and 600+ watt PSU's are now common and affordable and many motherboards support it so its not as expensive as it use to be. Still some games don't benefit much from SLI or Crossfire - and as long as you actually use mid or high end gaming cards and have a big monitor. I don't think you'd get much benefit in modeling or video editing with Crossfire, not sure.
     
  7. draclan12

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    Yea, I understand that most of the video card stuff will only benefit in gaming, and yes, I do have a large monitor.

    I looked at some benchmarks for the 2x 5770 and single 5850 and on some games, there is a good 20 fps gap between the two, while some games there is only a 5 or so fps gap.

    I don't mind having the 5 fps gap, but 20 fps gap is scaring me.. Oh well, you don't see a 20 fps difference when you're at 90 fps.

    As far as the motherboards go, I'm not sure which one to get. Since I'm startin to think the 5850 would be better, should I get ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 AMD Motherboard since I won't have use for CrossFire?

    Also, do I have to buy fans for the case or do they come with the case I chose? If I do have to buy them, should I get both a 140mm and a 120mm fan or should I just get just one 140mm or one 120mm?

    Thanks.
     
  8. crjdriver

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    The antec case comes with three spd fans. You can set low, med, or high spd on the fans.

    Good choice on the cpu. You get better bang for the buck with the amds.
     
  9. draclan12

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    Yea, that's why for this build I'm going for amd/ati, because of the price.. I used to be an intel/nvidia person, but I'm thinking about changing that just because of the price..

    Is there anything else I really have to get for the computer? I already got an HDD and a PSU for it.. The components themselves should come with their own wires right?
     
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    You should get all cables with the motherboard that you'd need.

    You can get CrossFire capable boards and not use CrossFire, no issue there. But be aware that with the AMD 800 series motherboards you only get full CrossFireX performance on the 890 chipsets, the Asus 880 version runs the second slot at PCI-Express 1.1 x4 which will hurt performance a little - likely placing it on par with a single 5850 and even a little lower. The 790X will do PCI-Express 2.0 x8 speeds for both cards - no real performance loss by running at x8 instead of x16 but an older board with less features. In single card mode they both do PCI-Express 2.0 x16. $179 will get you an Asus board that can run PCI-Express 2.0 x16 on both slots based on the 890FX chipset, or this Gigabyte board that will do PCI-Express 2.0 x8 with two cards for $139: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435(Asus has a similar priced version).

    Honestly I think you'd be better off with a single Radeon 5850 and either the 870 or 880 chipset.

    Three Asus boards for comparison: Asus Motherboards
    The 880G one has integrated video, which you can use for additional monitors or as a backup, and has a eSATA 6Gbs port for external hard drives and does he x16 + x4 CropssFire. For the 870 boards the one supports x16 + x4 CrossFire while the other one doesn't.

    For money conscious CrossFire the 790X board would be better, for features and single card performance the 880 or 870 is better.
     
  11. draclan12

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    Yea, right now I am deciding on using an 870 mobo with a single 5850 video card and not go CrossFire, it costs me a whole lot less this way, so I'll just leave it at that.

    Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 AMD Motherboard
    GIGABYTE GV-R585OC-1GD Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video
    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ
    AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX

    That's the final build I have right now totaling to $734.91.

    One more question I had was whether or not I need any thermal compound or if I need any extra required accessories for the build itself.
     
  12. Triple6

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    There will be thermal compound on the AMD heatsink, it will do the job fine with the stock heatsink.

    For cables and screws you should be fine, the motherboard should handle that.

    So other things not on your list that I assume you are re-using are the power supply, hard drive, optical drive, and operating system.
     
  13. draclan12

    draclan12 Thread Starter

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    Correct you are, just going to use the 1tb hdd, 750gb hdd, and power supply on my current machine and find a dvd drive off an older computer..

    If that's all I need then I should be set to order the parts and start building..

    I'll post back here if I have any problems. Thanks a bunch Triple6 and crj.
     
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