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forte21xx

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Hi everyone. I'm finally looking to replace my 4 year old computer. I don't want to spend more than 800 - 900 dollars on this, since I'm kinda short on cash. This computer will be used mostly for games and internet. I already have a copy of windows XP Pro which I'll be using on my new computer (and not on this one since it'll be effectivley gutted). I'm going to be using my AGP Geforce 5900 video card since it's still pretty good, but I want to have a system that can support the latest video cards such as the geforce 7 series because I'm going to want to upgrade eventually. I also have a monitor and speakers, so I won't be needing to replace those. Anyway, here's what I've picked out.

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ - $264
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103464

Motherboard - $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130469

3x 512MB DDR SDRAM - $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820161615

Case - $69.99
http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=8112

500W Power Supply - $26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817192002

160GB Hard drive - $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144203


Do you think this will work? Anyone have any suggestions? Improvements? Flames? Post away.
 
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and i wuold also get a better quality powersupply...those cheap kinds can ruin your whole system
 
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There's a big problem with your build(actually a couple). First the CPU is not compatible with the motherboard. You picked a socket 754 CPU and the motherboard is a socket 939(won't work). A lower rated socket 939 can be overclocked easily on air cooling and uses a 128bit(dual channel) memory controller instead of the 64bit(single channel) that is on the CPU you selected.

That PSU can't be any good for that price. You get what you pay for here so don't go cheap as your systems health and stability depends on it.

Running 3 double sided Ram modules will default the memory speed to 333mhz with a socket 754. This is a limitation of the 'on-die' memory controller.

I suggest the following for your build: AMD64 3000+ 'Venice'core(you can overclock this processor easily on air cooling)

A 450 watt or better powersupply from a good company(Antec,Enermax,PC Power+Cooling) I'd recommend some budget power supplies but when you want to upgrade to dual core or overclock it's best to have a good one.

Make sure you add another fan thats not included to the back of that case.
 

forte21xx

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Well first of all, this is the first computer that I am building so I'm kinda new at all of this. I won't be interested in overclocking until I'm sure of what I'm doing. I changed pretty much everything in the build except for the case and the hard drive. It seems that the motherboard and processor are compatable, and that my dual channel ram works with my motherboard, and my power supply got great ratings on newegg. I'll be adding extra fans if I need to from Best Buy or something once I get everything in.

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ - $325
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539

Motherboard - $97
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813180064

2 of 2x 512 mb dual channel DDR ram -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145440

Case - $69.99
http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/me...oduct_Code=8112

520W Power Supply - $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817148008

160GB Hard drive - $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16822144203


Does anyone see any problems with this? Any suggestions?
 
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actually one problem i see is that you will have to find a mobo with agp8x, now this shouldnt be a problem until you want that new video gaming card a year or 2 down the line, which most likely will be pci-e not agp8x, if you could possible buy a 6600GT pci-e card now with a mobo to match, that would make getting a new card down the road easier, just a thought
 

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that's what I was thinking, except that I already have a Geforce 5900, which seems to be about as good from what I've heard as a 6600 anyway. Until the mid range 7 series comes out, I don't want to buy a new video card. If only they had motherboards with both agp and pci-e
 
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forte21xx said:
Well first of all, this is the first computer that I am building so I'm kinda new at all of this. I won't be interested in overclocking until I'm sure of what I'm doing. I changed pretty much everything in the build except for the case and the hard drive. It seems that the motherboard and processor are compatable, and that my dual channel ram works with my motherboard, and my power supply got great ratings on newegg. I'll be adding extra fans if I need to from Best Buy or something once I get everything in.

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ - $325
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539

Motherboard - $97
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813180064

2 of 2x 512 mb dual channel DDR ram -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145440

Case - $69.99
http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/me...oduct_Code=8112

520W Power Supply - $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817148008

160GB Hard drive - $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16822144203


Does anyone see any problems with this? Any suggestions?
yes now the cpu is a 939, the first post has a 754 clawhammer, the SD one is better anyway. your case and psu are way too over the top for me, but thats just personal taste, I would go Seagate or Maxtor for the hdd
 
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forte21xx said:
that's what I was thinking, except that I already have a Geforce 5900, which seems to be about as good from what I've heard as a 6600 anyway. Until the mid range 7 series comes out, I don't want to buy a new video card. If only they had motherboards with both agp and pci-e
no way, the 6600GT should smoke it, however i know how it is with money, The only thing would be that if you get a new card down the line and it was pci-e you would have to spring for a new mobo, which by then might require new ram etc., its a pickle, well your mobo isnt real $$$$ maybe it will work out alright. I've have heard some pretty good buzz about Soltek boards so good luck with the build, just dont wait too long if your going to buy that agp card, its hard to tell how long that slot is going to be supported, I have to think a year or two though. my son has the agp version of the 6800GT, it smokes, maybe those will come down to something reasonable soon for ya.
 

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Well, if it looks like this build is fairly solid, I'll go ahead with it. As for fans goes, the website for my case says

Cooling Fans: 1 x 120mm Blue LED Fan included, Optional 120mm Fan in back of case (not included), 1 x 80mm Blue LED fan on side window included.

I have a 120 mm fan I'm getting off newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811999122

Does that look solid for cooling? Do the packaged fans that come with the processor and everything stand up fairly well?
 
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With the rear fan in you will be fine. More then fine.
Nice job picking a better power supply. Still not my first choice but it should work.
I wish you would spend a little more on some good ram that will overclock when you want it(and I think you will once you get into builing and using it).Judging by how you picked the case i'd say it would be ready with adequate cooling.

Oh yea. And the first link to the CPU was indeed a socket 754. You got it right with the second link so DON'T get them mixed up when you order!
 
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If you want good but budget get a tagan 480watt(made by e-power). For the ram go with OCZ platinum or G-skill, Patriot etc. Look for ram modules with Samsung TCCD IC's(integrated circuits). Mushkin has TCC5(which is pretty close to TCCD if you can't find it) with the XP3200 series.
 
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