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No onboard video support

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by dogbonz, Feb 10, 2004.

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  1. dogbonz

    dogbonz Thread Starter

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    Hi Troops (and thx Candy),

    I just built a new unit. The motherboard does not have
    on-board video support.

    The hard drive that was added has the video drivers on it, and matches the card (nVidia G-fiorce 440). So I plugged the monitor into that. Go to boot up, and I have no video at all.

    No chance to install the M-board software, or go to bios
    because no picture. No other place to plug in the monitor.

    As far as I can tell, the machine is booting up properly, but
    I can't add the M-board software blind. Tried booting from
    floppy - nuthin. Tried with M-board disk in CD-Rom, nuthin.

    Help.... (eeek)
     
  2. dai

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    there is something wrong with the build if you are getting nothing on the monitor
    are you getting any beeps.
    check the ram and video card is seated properly,are all the fans operating.
    if the video and ram are seated properly try booting with only
    video
    ram
    cpu
    unplug anything else
     
  3. ~Candy~

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    Yep, even without the 'proper' Windows drivers installed, you should be able to see video upon startup.
     
  4. mhoydis

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    If you're getting zero picture whatsoever, it is not a driver problem.

    Try re-seating your card?
     
  5. dogbonz

    dogbonz Thread Starter

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    Yes, the fans are fine.

    The only things running are the CPU, fans and
    video card and Ram.

    Maybe the problem is that the Hard drive has the old
    Motherboard software - causing some weirdness ?

    They are both VIA chipsets....

    The monitor is an Apple 8514, and runs on plug and
    play just fine.

    Should I try a hard drive that has nuthin on it, except
    old win 98 ??
     
  6. ~Candy~

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    With the hard drive disconnected, you should still get video.

    The hard drive or OS isn't an issue.

    Perhaps the monitor doesn't like the video card? I have an old Gateway 2000 monitor that won't display video on some computers.
     
  7. dogbonz

    dogbonz Thread Starter

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    Yep, the real basic video is in the BIOS.


    However, the video card is the PCI variety. The PCI
    setup is part of the motherboard setup, yes ?

    Lemme try to remove the HDD, and boot with an
    XP disk in the floppy.

    Let ya know...

    Thanks,


    bonz
     
  8. ~Candy~

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    So, then you ARE getting video if you can access and see the bios? Now you have me confused :confused: :)
     
  9. dustyjay

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    Is this Video Card and Monitor from an apple computer? Or is this a monitor that just happens to have Apple as its name? If you are getting video on boot so you can see the bios, and it is from an apple system then that may be your problem.

    Sorry just read the entire thread again.

    was this monitor and video card ever working together before?
     
  10. ~Candy~

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    Don't Apple monitors have different connectors anyway????
     
  11. dustyjay

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    For our sake please post your system specs. Mobo, processor, OS, you say you have a PCI video card, HDD, things like that. Please be a little specific with names and model numbers.
     
  12. dogbonz

    dogbonz Thread Starter

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    No, Candy, no video of any sort.


    The monitor IS an Apple, logo and all, and
    yes it's worked with this video card (and hard
    drive) before. In fact it's worked with all systems
    before just fine. This time the "yellow" light
    stays on, and doesn't turn green.

    It worked before when I put a new motherboard
    in. (But there was also on-board video before).

    This mother board doesn't have on-board video,
    but it should still work off the BIOS.

    I've tried all 4 PCI slots for the card, and the card
    seems to be seated properly.

    Re-seated memory (DDR) - still no video. Arrrrgh.
    Card is an nVidia G440, and worked fine before.

    Thanks,

    bonz
     
  13. dustyjay

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    You are right there should be video pn start up at least even if there is no on-board video. Could be that it has just given up the ghost here. Can you try this monitor on a different computer. Or does this video card have a special connector for the Apple Monitor? As far as I can remember Apple monitors do have a different connector than regular VGA monitors. Does it have an adapter between the Connector and the video card maybe?
     
  14. Rockn

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    If there is no on-board video there will be no option in the BIOS other than AGP or PCI as the default. Change it to PCI. Look on the back of the motherboard, I bet there is a video connector.
     
  15. dustyjay

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    I just did a google search for this monitor and it came back with no results. I also search the Apple website with no results. Is this an older monitor?
     
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