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Notebook Failing or Reliability

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  1. emma15

    emma15 Thread Starter

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    Hi guys,

    Can you please give me your opinions which of these notebooks I should get? I've been having trouble deciding between the three of them.

    I am not that interested in the specs. I am more interested in reliability, and the risk that there will be hardware failure. Both of them are made in China. I would like to know which one will last.

    I have a old Fujitsu that has lasted me nine years without any problems at all - it is made in Japan and is flawless in terms of reliability. No hardware failing at all.
    >>>Can someone tell me which series or models of Sony and Fujitsu laptops are made in Japan and which ones are made in China?

    What I am looking for:
    1. At least a 14 inch screen. But preferably a 15 inch screen
    2. at least i5 CPU. But preferably i7
    3. Preferably made in Japan. It's hard these days to find Japanese made laptops.
    4. Dedicated GPU. Preferably a middle class GPU. If it's a high class GPU, that's a bonus.

    1.

    Sony VAIO VPCCB17FGB ~$1350

    * Intel® Core™ i7-2620M Processor 2.70GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.40GHz
    * Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * HDD: 640 GB (Serial ATA, 7200 rpm)
    * Automatically controls Gfx mode: Dynamic Hybrid Graphics System
    * HD web camera powered by "Exmor"
    * Instant web browsing: Quick Web Access

    Operating System
    Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit (English Version)
    Language Pack Hong Kong Chinese, Simplified Chinese, Arabic, Thai
    Language Interface Pack Vietnamese
    Architecture
    Processor Name Intel® Core™ i7-2620M Processor 2.70 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.40 GHz*1
    Chipset Intel® HM65 Express Chipset
    Cache Memory 4 MB (L3 Cache)
    Main Memory
    Pre-installed/Max 4 GB (4 GB x 1) DDR3 SDRAM*2 (upgradeable up to 8 GB*3)
    SO-DIMM Slots DDR3 SO-DIMM slots (Unused Memory slot 1)
    Memory Speed 1333 MT/s
    Hard Disk Drive
    Hard Disk Drive 640 GB*4 (Serial ATA, 7200 rpm)
    Optical Disc Drive
    Drive DVD SuperMulti Drive
    Maximum Reading Speed DVD+R: 8x(SL), 8x(DL) / DVD-R: 8x(SL), 8x(DL) / DVD+RW: 8x / DVD-RW: 8x / DVD-ROM: 8x / DVD-RAM: 5x / CD-ROM: 24x / CD-R: 24x / CD-RW: 24x
    Maximum Writing Speed DVD+R: 8x(SL), 6x(DL) / DVD-R: 8x(SL), 6x(DL) / DVD+RW: 8x / DVD-RW: 6x / DVD-RAM: 5x / CD-R: 24x / CD-RW: 10x
    Graphics
    Graphics Accelerator AMD Radeon™ HD 6630M / Intel® HD Graphics 3000
    Dedicated Video Memory 1 GB DDR3
    Display
    Type 15.5 inch wide (Full HD: 1920x1080) TFT colour display (VAIO Display Plus, LED backlight)
    Interface
    USB Hi-Speed USB (USB 2.0) Type A Connector x 3, SuperSpeed USB (USB 3.0) Type A Connector x 1
    Network (RJ-45)Connector 1000BASE-T/100BASE-TX/10BASE-T x 1
    Display Output Connector Analogue RGB, Mini D-Sub 15 pin x 1
    Headphone Stereo, Mini Jack x 1
    Microphone Stereo, Mini Jack x 1
    HDMI In/Out Connector HDMI Out x 1
    Memory Stick Slot "Memory Stick Duo"("Memory Stick PRO-HG" compatible, "MagicGate" )*5
    SD Memory Card Slot SD memory card(SDHC, SDXC compatible, Copyright protection (CPRM))*6
    DC IN x 1
    Wireless Connection
    Wireless LAN Type IEEE 802.11b/g/n*7
    Wireless LAN Data Rate Maximum transmission speed: 150 Mbps*8, Maximum receipt speed: 150 Mbps*8
    Bluetooth Bluetooth® standard Ver. 2.1 + EDR
    Camera
    Front Side Camera HD web camera powered by "Exmor" (Resolution: 1280 x 1024, Effective Pixels: 1.31Mega pixels)
    Audio
    Sound Chip Intel® High Definition Audio
    Speaker Internal, Stereo speakers
    Microphone Internal, Monaural microphone
    Audio Technology Dolby Home Theater® technology
    Keyboard/Input Device
    Keyboard 19.05 mm key pitch/1.7 mm keystroke, 103 keys, Backlit Keyboard
    Touchpad Touchpad (Gesture supported)
    Battery Life
    Bundled Battery VGP-BPS26A Lithium-ion battery: up to 3.5 hours of use*9
    Optional Battery VGP-BPL26 Lithium-ion battery: up to 5.0 hours of use*9
    Size
    Dimensions (WxHxD) 375.1 x 31.3-39.6 x 250.9 mm
    Weight 2.85 kg (including the supplied battery)
    Included Software
    AV Entertainment Media Gallery*10, Windows® Media Center, Quick Web Access
    Content Creation/Editing PMB VAIO Edition
    Home Network VAIO Media plus*10
    Word Processor / Spreadsheet Microsoft® Office Starter 2010*11
    Tool Evernote for VAIO, Adobe® Reader® 9
    Utilities VAIO Control Center, Battery Care Function, VAIO Gate, WebCam Companion, Magic-i™ Visual Effects, Remote Keyboard*12, Remote Play with PlayStation®3*13
    Security McAfee PC SecurityCenter 30-day Free Trial*14, Webroot® Spy Sweeper® 90-day Free Trial*15
    Support VAIO Care, VAIO Care Rescue, VAIO Update, VAIO Transfer Support, Norton™ Online Backup 60-day Free Trial*16
    Supplied Accessories
    AC Adaptor VGP-AC19V35 or VGP-AC19V41
    Battery VGP-BPS26A*17



    2.

    Fujitsu AH531H ~$1100

    Details
    CPU : Intel Core i5-2410M (2.3Ghz/2.9Ghz, 3MB cache, 1333MHz)
    Chipset : Intel H65M
    Memory : 4GB DDR3 1066MHz
    Hard Disk : 500GB
    Display : 15.6" SuperFine LED back-light 16:9 HD Widescreen TFT, 1366 x 768 pixels
    Optical Drive : Dual Layer DVD Super Multi Writer
    Graphics : NVIDIA GeForce GT525M 1GB Graphics
    Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64bit
    Audio : RealTek ALC269 HD audio codec with dual built-in stereo speakers
    Communication 1.3 Mega Pixels camera
    Bluetooth v2.1 + EDR(Optional)
    10/100/1000Mbps Fast Ethernet LAN
    WIFI 802.11 B/G/N
    Card Reader ExpressCard 34 /54 support, SDHC/Memory Stick/Memory Stick PRO
    Interface 1 x ExpressCard slots (34/54 mm)
    3 x USB 2.0
    1 x VGA
    1 x HDMI
    1 x HDA-in, HDA-out, Power Adapter DC-in
    AC Adapter Input AC 100~240V, Output DC 19V 80W
    6 cell Li-ion Battery
    Warranty 1 Year Manufacturer Warranty

    3.

    Sony VPCCB35FGBI ~$1179

    Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1 64-bit (English Version)
    Language Pack Hong Kong Chinese, Simplified Chinese, Arabic, Thai
    Language Interface Pack Vietnamese
    Architecture
    Processor Name Intel® Core™ i5-2430M Processor 2.40 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.00 GHz*1
    Chipset Intel® HM65 Express Chipset
    Cache Memory 3 MB (L3 Cache)
    Main Memory
    Pre-installed/Max 4 GB (4 GB (SO-DIMM) x 1) DDR3 SDRAM*2 (upgradeable up to 8 GB*3)
    SO-DIMM Slots DDR3 SO-DIMM slots (Unused Memory slot 1)
    Memory Speed 1333 MT/s
    Hard Disk Drive
    Hard Disk Drive 500 GB*4 (Serial ATA, 7200 rpm)
    Optical Disc Drive
    Drive DVD SuperMulti Drive
    Maximum Reading Speed DVD+R: 8x(SL), 8x(DL) / DVD-R: 8x(SL), 8x(DL) / DVD+RW: 8x / DVD-RW: 8x / DVD-ROM: 8x / DVD-RAM: 5x / CD-ROM: 24x / CD-R: 24x / CD-RW: 24x
    Maximum Writing Speed DVD+R: 8x(SL), 6x(DL) / DVD-R: 8x(SL), 6x(DL) / DVD+RW: 8x / DVD-RW: 6x / DVD-RAM: 5x / CD-R: 24x / CD-RW: 10x
    Graphics
    Graphics Accelerator AMD Radeon™ HD 6630M / Intel® HD Graphics 3000
    Dedicated Video Memory 1 GB DDR3
    Display
    Type 15.5 inch wide (Full HD: 1920x1080) TFT colour display (VAIO Display Plus, LED backlight)
    Interface
    USB Hi-Speed USB (USB 2.0) Type A Connector x 3, SuperSpeed USB (USB 3.0) Type A Connector x 1
    Network (RJ-45)Connector 1000BASE-T/100BASE-TX/10BASE-T x 1
    Display Output Connector Analogue RGB, Mini D-Sub 15 pin x 1
    Headphone Stereo, Mini Jack x 1
    Microphone Stereo, Mini Jack x 1
    HDMI In/Out Connector HDMI Out x 1
    Memory Stick Slot "Memory Stick Duo"("Memory Stick PRO-HG" compatible, "MagicGate" )*5
    SD Memory Card Slot SD memory card(SDHC, SDXC compatible, Copyright protection (CPRM))*6
    DC IN x 1
    Wireless Connection
    Wireless LAN Type IEEE 802.11b/g/n*7
    Wireless LAN Data Rate Maximum transmission speed: 150 Mbps*8, Maximum receipt speed: 150 Mbps*8
    Bluetooth Bluetooth® standard Ver. 4.0 + HS
    Camera
    Front Side Camera HD web camera powered by "Exmor" (Resolution: 1280 x 1024, Effective Pixels: 1.31Mega pixels)
    Audio
    Sound Chip Intel® High Definition Audio
    Speaker Internal, Stereo speakers
    Microphone Internal, Monaural microphone
    Audio Technology Dolby® Home Theater® v4
    Keyboard/Input Device
    Keyboard 19.05 mm key pitch/1.7 mm keystroke, 103 keys, Backlit Keyboard
    Touchpad Touchpad (Gesture supported)
    Battery Life
    Bundled Battery VGP-BPS26A Lithium-ion battery: up to 4.0 hours of use*9
    Optional Battery VGP-BPL26 Lithium-ion battery: up to 6.5 hours of use*9
    Size
    Dimensions (WxHxD) 375.1 x 31.3-39.6 x 250.9 mm
    Weight 2.85 kg (including the supplied battery)
    Included Software
    AV Entertainment Media Gallery*10, Windows® Media Center, Quick Web Access
    Content Creation/Editing PMB VAIO Edition
    Word Processor / Spreadsheet Microsoft® Office Starter 2010*11
    Tool Evernote for VAIO, Adobe® Reader® X
    Utilities VAIO Control Center, Battery Care Function, VAIO Gate, WebCam Companion, Magic-i™ Visual Effects, Remote Keyboard*12, Remote Play with PlayStation®3*13, Media Go, TrackID™*12
    Security Trend Micro™ Titanium™ Maximum Security 60days*14
    Support VAIO Care, VAIO Care Rescue, VAIO Update, VAIO Transfer Support, Norton™ Online Backup 60-day Free Trial*14
    Supplied Accessories
    AC Adaptor VGP-AC19V31 or VGP-AC19V35 or VGP-AC19V41
    Battery VGP-BPS26A*15
     
  2. gberger

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    I can't really address your question, but I've had very good luck with Dell laptops, having had 5 of them and none has ever failed. They get obsolete but keep on running until I finally just give them away since they are so out of date.
    Try this one, it's on sale for 850.00 with coupon code 932N$0ZCCHWZB9, specs almost identical with the first Sony. A slightly slower I7 processor, but a 2GB video card and it's 500.00 cheaper.

    http://configure.us.dell.com/dellst...=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643&acd=10550055-600263-

    Edit: We do have one Sony Vaio laptop that my wife decided she had to have, and it is very nice. But IMHO the extra cost of a Sony only buys a nicer aesthetic, but adds nothing in terms of functionality or reliability.
     
  3. Hughv

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    I second gberger's post. I've bought and serviced many Dells, and the reliability has been excellent.
     
  4. emma15

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    Hi. Thanks for the reply.

    What are your opinions on Toshiba? I know they are made in China, but which models are most reliable (in terms of hardware failure)? I have read that Toshiba are reliable (a study confirming this somewhere). Is it all models or specific models - Satellites, Tecras, Qosmio, Portege. Or specific models. e.g. Tecra R850, R840?

    What is their build quality? And what is the case like? Is it plastic? Aluminum? Magnesium alloy?

    Which other brands are reliable? Please detail the model numbers.

    Thank you
     
  5. gberger

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    Sorry, I can only offer my personal experience. You can read these reports and specs until the cows come home and/or your head starts to spin. Don't drive yourself too crazy :)
     
  6. emma15

    emma15 Thread Starter

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    Hi. Thanks for the reply.

    I am concerned about heat and overheating notebooks. I am considering an ultraslim fujitsu notebook (SH771H). I am considering Fujitsu SH771H and SH761H.
    Do slim notebooks overheat easier than NON slim notebooks?
    Also, do 13.3 inch notebooks (not slim) overheat easier than 15.6 inch notebooks, since they are physically smaller, and there is not much airflow inside?

    Do slim or physically small sized notebooks (e.g. 13 compared to 15 inch) hardware fail more easily and faster?
     
  7. gberger

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    Laptops do tend to generate heat, for just the reason you mention. A desktop has plenty of room for air circulation while obviously a CPU in a laptop is working in tight quarters. But let's differentiate between a laptop getting warm (or even a little hot) and overheating. Overheating is when the CPU gets too hot and can't be brought down to a safe operating temperature. In that case the laptop will shut down to prevent damage. In my experience this is very rare, although several years ago I did come across a particular Dell model owned by a friend that I found out was known for this issue. The problem was a heatsink with a design issue that caused dust to accumulate after a year or so, blocking the air flow. The cure was to take the laptop apart and clean out the heatsink (not as drastic as it may sound).
    I have noticed that smaller laptops generate more heat that larger ones. But again, overheating is rare. We had a 10.3" (I think) Dell that used to get REALLY hot on the bottom. But it never failed after 5 years of doing this.
    In summary, yes laptops generate heat. But overheating is not something I would worry about. Just use common sense and don't put them down on a surface that might block vents, such as a down comforter.
    And as I mentioned, none of our Dell laptops has ever failed so I wouldn't worry about that either. Sorry if I sound like a shill for Dell (I'm not connected to them in any way) but I have had nothing but good experiences with them.
     
  8. gberger

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    BTW, that Fujitsu looks very nice and although an equivalent size/price-range Dell is cheaper and offers features like SSD (solid-state drive) the Fujitsu is about 1lb lighter. That's significant if you lug it around a lot. Of course I have zero experience with Fujitsu so can't comment on reliability.
     
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