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  1. wolfworx

    wolfworx Thread Starter

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    If you have plenty to spend and have high quality specifications for your "ideal computer" building your own probably makes sense to you.

    Or, if you want to have a project that lets you learn about hardware, then try building your own computer.

    But if you just want to save money and get a new low cost computer by building your own... FORGET IT!

    Let's look at a low cost example for a system that can be bought complete at a retail store for under $250:

    AMD Athlon™ II X2 220 Dual Core Processor $58
    System board $50
    2GB DDR3 RAM $20
    500GB 7,200RPM Hard Drive $50
    Enclosure $35
    PSU $30

    Total $243

    and you need to assemble and test. Not much saving is it?

    But wait, suppose you already have a perfectly good enclosure with a 350 W PSU, saving you $70
    That brings the cost down to $178

    Looks better doesn't it?

    Well, no. We forgot the OS
    The retail system for $250 or less comes with
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
    which will cost you $200 if you purchase retail for your "home brew" system.YIKES!:eek:
    This brings your cost up to $378 for a system you must build yourself!(n)

    So unless you plan to run a "free" OS like Ubuntu, you save about $150 by buying the system ready made and tested.(y)
     
  2. jack-o-bytes

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    Yeah there is that but lets face it, you can't exaclty find a good quality gaming machine for a good price anywhere. The higher the cost of the PC you buy the more profit margin that is usually on it. For example, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883155202

    Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094
    Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131713
    CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
    RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178271
    Graphics Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625
    PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104136
    Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145473
    Disk Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
    Opperating System - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992

    All of that comes to $1,069 which is $580 cheaper than the Alienware computer. Add that to the fact that the alienware comes with a GT 545 :S whatever that is. And the one I made has a GTX 550 which is known to be a good card. Also you could then add a massive cooler like this one
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017 and still come off way way cheaper.

    Jack-O-Bytes
     
  3. wolfworx

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    Point made. But my comments exclude "Big Gamer" requirements. Most folks just need a computer to create documents, access the internet, email, view photos etc. A $250 desktop computer or $350 notebook meets that requirement just fine.
     
  4. prunejuice

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    I don't have a problem with what you're saying, but your initial post assumes you already have a tower and power supply to save the $70.

    Your low-cost setup might be worth 0$ if a cheap power supply takes out everything with a loud bang...
     
  5. wolfworx

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    That only makes my case: You save by buying the system ready made and tested.
     
  6. crjdriver

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    So what you are saying is that a "tested" emachine with a bestec pw supply is not going to take out the board, ram, etc when it fails?????

    If I had a dollar for each failed bestec, I would not be a million air however I could go out for a VERY nice dinner :D:D
     
  7. dustyjay

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    Add to that when the Bestec PSU takes out your computer (which really does happen) try and take that OEM Copy of windows to the new computer you decided assemble your self to replace the blown up eMachines. won't work and not legal. If you have a retail copy of windows you can use on any computer you want as long as it is only used on a single computer at a time.
     
  8. wolfworx

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    Bestec??? What brought that up? Just what is wrong with a $250 computer from Staples, Tiger Direct or some other retailer? I can count dozens of my clients with relatively low cost computers of that type that have been problem free 'til they are obsolete! The point is, it is cheaper to buy a new computer with the current version of MS Windows included in the purchase than to buy the OS separately for a computer you build. If something fails, you return it.
     
  9. dustyjay

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    The reference to bestec came from agreeing with crjdriver. For the person who only wants to do web browsing, Email, simple office tasks and very low end game playing the $300 big box computers are for the most part fine (though there are a couple manufacturers I always recommend against and they are both part of the Acer Group). Personally I build what I want and I can usually save quite a bit on a system, plus I don't have to put up with the Bloatware and Crapware that Bigbox manufacturers have to include to help keep their systems so cheap. With the Retail version of Windows, when I retire a system, I can use that copy of windows on the new system I am going to build. The only bigbox computers I buy are my laptops.

    As far as warranty work goes, in my experience, I have never had a Bigbox system that malfunctioned before the warranty expired, so there was no returning it.
     
  10. Elvandil

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    Since you have not asked for assistance, this thread does not belong in the technical forums.

    Moving to "Random".
     
  11. Wino

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    You are absolutely correct. The machine listed in my specs next to my name cost me about $1500 a year ago, taking six months accumulating parts and buying all components including WIN7 Pro 64B on sale and prepaid freight.

    Looked at building a unit for my daughter vs. what was available from various OEM's and they all approached same specs as my build but were anywhere from $400-600 less than what I paid to build. Granted my case was better, as was my PSU and additional DVD-RW, more memory and better video card, but other than that very adequate for her use, or mine for that matter. However, the joy of building my own using components I want far outweighs the cost savings, not to mention no disc space lost to recovery partition and no stupid recovery disc that installs much trash - that is if everything goes well and there are no problems and first boot is a dream come true. When that doesn't happen and all goes to hell in a hand basket, that computer at Best Buy looks pretty good in retrospect.:p
     
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