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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Evilarch, Jan 1, 2004.

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  1. Evilarch

    Evilarch Thread Starter

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    I got a new computer: 111GB hard-drive, 1GB memory, GF 4MX 440 (128MB) XP Home, and other things, anyway it is alot better than my other computer.

    The Sims and Sim City 4 are the two main games on the computer and they keep freezing or closing with the speakers squeaking and crackling before doing so. Anyway I have found out that the problem is only overheating, well when i put a fan next to the computer SimCity 4 stayed open longer than it did before.
    My old computer could run The Sims without overheating and it wasn't anywhere as near as good as this system.
    So why is this brand new computer overheating so quickly?
     
  2. Kerri Ann

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    i think that if the problem were the processor overheating, the entire system would shut down. if it's only the game that shuts down, i would check your system for viruses, or some conflicting software.
    check the temperatures of your system in the bios. you can usually get into the bios by tapping the delete key when the computer first turns on- sometimes it's F1 or F2....
    then find the hardware monitoring menu and in there- it should give you 2 different temp readings- one is the cpu temp- the other is the system temp.
    post both of them back here.
     
  3. Saint Anger

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    Systems in general just run a lot warmer these days than they used to. It takes more effort to keep them cool, but that's the price paid for all the gains in speed.

    The symptoms you're having could be either because your CPU is getting too warm or the graphics card is getting too warm. That can be caused by a problem with the cpu or card's cooling, or it can be caused by poor air circulation in the case, which causes the whole system to be too warm overall. It could be that the heatsink and fan on the CPU isn't mounted well. It could be that you just need to add a fan or two to the case...

    We need to find out how high your temps are getting exactly.
    If you don't have monitoring software, get a program like MBProbe or Motherboard Monitor. (You can usually read the CPU and System temp in the BIOS, but that's only good for at the time your in the bios...) We need temps from when the system is idle, and when it's at load, like when playing a game.

    p.s.
    Try not to make multiple threads about 1 thing. :)
    http://forums.techguy.org/t191286/s.html
     
  4. Saint Anger

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    Not always true. Temps can get warm enough to cause problems, without actually being high enough to cause a critical shutdown.

    For example, if I leave my cpu fan speed set too low and try to play system-stressing games, it often will cause my video and audio to lock-up before it reaches the shut-down point.

    :)

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    BTW, Evilarch -

    Do you have any case fans? - or just fans on the cpu and vid card?
     
  5. Evilarch

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    I did the temp at startup of the CPU and it was 42 degrees C or 107 degrees F
     
  6. Evilarch

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    Can you tell me where i can get a program that monitors the temperature.
     
  7. Kerri Ann

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    MBM 5, motherboard monitor 5, that is freeware and it will monitor your temps and display them in windows, but you have to know your motherboard brand and model name.
    42 degrees is ok. that's the idle temp though, and i would want to check on the temp when you are playing the games. do a search in google for motherboard monitor, it should come up with the download page for it.
     
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    Often the manufacturer's website will have a temperature/voltage/fan monitoring utility available in the downloads section, too.
     
  10. scmazter

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    U know, the cpu might not be it. I suggest you take the case of, switch on the comp and run sc4. Ahhh i luv that game...

    Anyway, check all areas of the comp with your hand (make sure u dont have any static on you tough) and, especially check the fan on the graphics card. perhapns, you should buy another fan.

    Also, try updating graphics and sound card drivers.
     
  11. Triple6

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    If your CPU temp at startup is already 42 then thats high.

    Also as just mentioned, check the video card - does it have a fan? If not it really should. I'm actually shocked that you would have such a nice system and such a cheap video card, especially since you're into games.
     
  12. Kerri Ann

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    is that really a cheap video card?

    what type of processor do you have? amds are a bit hotter i think usually then intels.
     
  13. JohnWill

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    SpeedFan is an excellent and free monitor program. It will monitor the fan speeds, temperatures, voltages, and even the temperature of hard disks that report it. It will also control the fan speed dependent on temperatures, to keep things quieter when the full speed is not required. :)
     
  14. cnimbus

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    Well, not really cheap, although definitely in the 'value' category. Gamers benefit greatly from good 3D video acceleration, an area in which the GeForce 4MX 440 is lacking.

    For non-gamers, GF4 MX 440 is a very good option. Mine has better a noticeably better display than the ATI Radeon 9200 Pro it replaced, and none of the compatability problems.
     
  15. scmazter

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    Yeh, I totally forgot, amd proccessors can run at a higher temperature then intel proccesors (is that how you spell it?) something like 5-10 degrees celcius difference...

    I recommend getting radeon 9700, itz fairly cheap and a very good graphics chip, or if u can wait, some time in march next year the radeon 9800 pro is goina drop in price a lot because ati will release a card that is literally twice as fast...
     
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