1. Computer problem? Tech Support Guy is completely free -- paid for by advertisers and donations. Click here to join today! If you're new to Tech Support Guy, we highly recommend that you visit our Guide for New Members.

pirated software

Discussion in 'Tech Tips and Reviews' started by somak_de, Jan 23, 2003.

?

how many of you ever used a pirated software ?

  1. never

    28 vote(s)
    21.7%
  2. sometimes

    55 vote(s)
    42.6%
  3. almost always

    46 vote(s)
    35.7%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Advertisement
  1. gotrootdude

    gotrootdude

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2003
    Messages:
    8,812
    As a former military nuclear biological chemical, communications, language, and medical specialist turned vice president of a corporation. Who has experience in electronics, lasers, robotics, industrial chemistry, international trading and shipping, along with pharmaceuticals, and a medical background, who has yet to obtain a 4 year degree from any university.

    I cannot understate the value of free trade of technology among my colleagues who may at this time be searching for a new platform for distributed computing, or a new cure for Aids, cancer, or a unlimited clean energy source. Copyright laws have gone to far, it's plain and simple.

    Sincerly, one amateur scientist
     
  2. MadDogMugsy

    MadDogMugsy Guest

    No Kidding! I had heard about Kazaa for so long- in here, and from some of my customers. I had actually started to feel I was behind the times. Saturday, I finally had to go in there to check it out, as one of my people required support related to this 'thing'.
    Oh my - I could not believe my eyes! Newly released movies, full blown applications with passwords ... blatant theft and a bunch of thieves sharing, with forums on how to make it (worse) easier to hide from "the man" - holy crap batman!
    I now know to firmly suggest to parents that they not allow this on their machines. I may think about refusing to support if they want to use it.
    All I can say now is - wow - whatta world eh?
    Morals only on Sunday or what???
    MDM
     
  3. gotrootdude

    gotrootdude

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2003
    Messages:
    8,812
    Exactly, I believe piracy is a moral problem, not necessarily a legal problem, the real solution to piracy starts with the installation of moral upbringing in our children. Whether it is illegal or not should be judged by if it was done out of moral contention and need.

    To a previous poster who talked about a person who had their electricity turned off. I have instructed my children to obtain through any ways neccesary the means to survive. If this is a necessity, then by all means obtain it. Legality isn't an issue in education and survival. But don't share it, instruct others, or blatently take more than is necessary for living. Maybe this way of thinking has come from my military background or my feeling that I could have obtained loftier goals if I would have had access to more education during my upbringing.

    Laws are put into place in order to maintain order and harmony, they are not for the purpose of inflicting harm on any person. To many times, laws are placed that conflict with morality and and the purpose behind which laws were created.

    In summary, piracy can be right or wrong depending on moral issues. Laws can be right or wrong as well. I do not condone piracy, but niether do I oppose it if done for the right reasons.


    I myself have but one goal in life. That is to make the world a better place for those who precede me. I believe, that when the bible says,"on earth as it is in heaven", it means it. We have the chance to make this earth heaven or hell, depending on the choices we make. I would hope anyone who judges others to feel the same.
     
  4. chalky

    chalky

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2001
    Messages:
    1,864
    I bid for some Windows software on e-bay, the price went so high that I didn't bother, BUT I recieved an e-mail from someone selling legal copies, worded as such that made it legal for them to sell. ( I checked this out) Needless to say I did Buy a copy - at a quarter of the shop price - and it's perfect in everyway, CD code included. I shall contact them in future before I go buy in the shops.
    Chalky :D
     
  5. w4rchild

    w4rchild

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2003
    Messages:
    3
    I use only pirated soft
    cuz it's imposible to buy something original here.
    Nobody can afford, only the company that required legal licenses.

    The pay rate and hour here is like 1.5 u$

    so ... i u work 24 days a month u cannot a operative system of 200 U$ .... forget the Office and the Corel ... imposible to get one of that.... legal...

    Here the ppl wins a year 5.000 U$ .. the common ...
    Maybe a Engineer wins 10.000 u$ and still been nothiing

    :(
     
  6. hewee

    hewee

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2001
    Messages:
    57,793
    w4rchild,

    Wow so how you get a PC and online then?
     
  7. w4rchild

    w4rchild

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2003
    Messages:
    3
    Cuz im systems engineer and i work as an administrator and i connect through my company, well is more accesible have a connection of internet or buy a cpu.. but a i prefer save money and buy a router or firewall and not expend in the office pack, here cost more that 400 hundred dollars complete... and maybe is 1 month of work ... ... also i bought in Usa my CPU .. more cheaper .. than here .. ..


    U got me ?
    :p
     
  8. hewee

    hewee

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2001
    Messages:
    57,793
    OK I got you :D

    Maybe time for you to move to the USA w4rchild.
     
  9. w4rchild

    w4rchild

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2003
    Messages:
    3
    Yeah. i already lived in Usa .. until december

    i love the TECH of usa... but is not my country .. :(

    :rolleyes:
     
  10. hewee

    hewee

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2001
    Messages:
    57,793
    w4rchild,

    Well you have the TSG family here.:)
     
  11. w4rchild

    w4rchild

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2003
    Messages:
    3
    Tnx !!! dude
     
  12. hammerbill

    hammerbill

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2003
    Messages:
    423
    I do not typically use pirated software and the only times I (rarely) have was to evaluate a program to see if I wanted it. I'd rather have my own copy not to comply with laws or morals, just for the pride of ownership and not being a skinflint. But...
    I agree that the issue of pirating software and even copyright laws should be a moral and not a legal issue. I have a bit of a problem with the concept of owning a thought. There is something fundamentally wrong with "I thought of this a bit before someone else, so everyone else who thinks of it should pay me royalties". "Nobody else should be able to have this information now without my permission". I feel physical property is a totally different issue.
    I feel that it is the responsability of the individual that "owns" the information/data to protect it themselves. I do not think that the government is obliged to assist in any way.
    As evidence to this, I point to the multitudes of corporations-many of whom are staunch supporters of information rights, that have been collecting consumer data without permission and reproducing it and selling it for years. What gives them the right to treat information about my life like a comodity up for grabs while denying me the right to use their information in a similar manner? A government that is enforcing these "rights" is not doing it fairly.
     
  13. deuce

    deuce

    Joined:
    May 26, 2001
    Messages:
    7,530
    Yes as bad as M$ is, they are good in this area. My school gets alot of software for us at "student" discounts. For example: XP Pro: $5...............MS Office XP Pro: $5. (the school might be pitching in.....I'm not sure)


    I can't complain. ;)




    I'm glad my school goes through the work to set these things up and I'm glad M$ and other companies agree to work with us. If software wasn't available to us so cheap, no one would buy it and everyone would steal it. Resources for pirated software are fairly abundant here...but because of the lowered prices people usually seem to buy it when possible....so this cuts down on piracy.
     
  14. djrobber

    djrobber

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2003
    Messages:
    3
    My 2 cents on this, if you are making money (a dollar or a million dollars) using the software as a tool, then you should pay for it. However, and a STRONG however, you should not have to pay for upgrades that, in general, only fix flaws with the original purchased version.
    Photoshop is an industry standard, but between version 3 and 6, had no real upgrade value from a production standpoint (excepting newbie requirements). The cost was $300-$600 per upgrade, though.
    The same point could be made with the recording industry, they are not falling on hard times because of napster (dead for a few years) or kazaa (crap versions of top 40 'hits')...if they'd unstuff their shirts and stop foisting this mindless dreck on the general public, I might be more inclined to pay $15 for $1 worth of packaging and reproduction costs, solely on merit of artistic value. (Not like the artists are reaping the rewards of CD sales, they rely on touring, etc. to garner their real wages.)
    A heady topic to be sure, but, I reckon I've a right to get a working copy of windows to surf the web after i've personally contributed a grand or two to our dad Billy Gates.
    (p.s. I'm still waiting)

    Currently running Windows Swampland-in-Florida Edition V2.1.2.3.4.5.6.7.4.6.8746.746.7.47.47.467.x


    Computers: Like a real job, only the expectations are lower. DjRobber-2000
     
  15. brushmaster1

    brushmaster1

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2002
    Messages:
    3,337
    I don't believe in using pirated software...if you want it, BUY it!

    However, having said that, I feel I need to confess to having a pirated copy of Windows 95 OSR2. It came about in this manner:

    Several years ago, after having had several XTs, 286s, and 386s, I decided it was time to enter the 20th century :)
    I bought a used P120 with Windows 95 and 8MB of RAM (it was all I could afford). I upgraded the RAM, but I had a system with Windows 95 and NO Windows disk in case of disaster. When Windows 98 was released, I bought the upgrade version and upgraded my system. Needless to say, I had many problems, so I did a clean install of Windows 98 using my Win 3.1 disks for proof of eligibility.

    A few months later, A power surge wiped my hard drive. When I tried to install Windows 98 again, I discovered that my Window 3.1 disks (one of them) had become corrupted. A friend offered me a burnt copy of Windows 95, and I used that to install Windows 98. I still have the CD, but I have never since used it for anything, and I don't plan to.

    I WILL NOT upgrade to Windows XP, since it seems to me to be Microsoft's attempt to create the ultimate spyware. I will stick with Windows 98SE, whether Microsoft supports it or not.

    Here is the crux of the matter... the software market, like any other market, is driven by supply and demand. OF COURSE software companies sometimes charge exorbitant prices, and will continue to do so as long as people feel they HAVE to use the very latest version of everything. There are cheaper alternatives to most of the high priced programs, and if more people would use these, it might force companies like Microsoft and Adobe to rethink their pricing policies.

    I'm still using Office 97 Pro, and see NO reason to move to a later version.

    I do a LOT of imaging, and I use PSP 3.12 (practically an antique) for nearly everything. It will do everything that Photoshop will, is much faster, and certainly cheaper. I have Photoshop (5.0), but use it only for one filter which won't run on PSP.

    For word processing, I have Corel Office Suite 7 and 8, MS Office 97, and Lotus 96. What I USE, however, is AmiPro 3.0, which, again, will do everything the more expensive programs will do.

    In short, I have a budget system, built mostly from used parts, and I see no real need to upgrade.
     
As Seen On
As Seen On...

Welcome to Tech Support Guy!

Are you looking for the solution to your computer problem? Join our site today to ask your question. This site is completely free -- paid for by advertisers and donations.

If you're not already familiar with forums, watch our Welcome Guide to get started.

Join over 733,556 other people just like you!

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Short URL to this thread: https://techguy.org/114860

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice