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Discussion in 'Earlier Versions of Windows' started by king_02891, Nov 14, 2001.

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  1. king_02891

    king_02891 Thread Starter

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    during my last encounter with a trojan virus, which was resolved (thank you tony) i learned a lot more about my inner workings of things, one thing i noticed, in msconfig\startup groups, there is a lot of things there, evidently some sites place things there without my knowledge, i understand thati only need to uncheck anything i don't want booted at startup, but one thing i was looking for, was a way to delete those items in the startup group that i don't want there, or will never use.
    it is unimportant, and i know they can be just left alone, with no harm done, just would like to know if there is a way to delete them?
     
  2. Rollin' Rog

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    The first thing to do would be to look for a configuration option in the program itself. Usually if they are placing an icon in Systray (the taskbar area by the clock) they will have one. It is often described as the "start agent" and media players typically have one.

    The second would be to look in the Startup folder of the Programs menu (Start>Programs>Startup) and see if there is a shortcut icon that can be deleted.

    The third method is to edit the registry. There are a number of locations to look in:

    >> The Run, RunOnce, RunServices and RunServicesOnce keys under:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion

    >> The Run and RunOnce keys under

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\

    If you have unchecked the item in msconfig, you will find it in a corresponding RUN- folder in the registry.

    To remove an item from the registry, go to start and run regedit

    Navigate through the locations indicated (the first is the most common) and when you find what you are looking for, right click on the entry in the RIGHT hand pane and delete it.

    Another possible location is the run= and load= lines of the win.ini file. To examine those, go to start and run win.ini (it will open in Notepad). You can leave the run= and load= lines with nothing after = (that is the way they are by default).

    If you mess up you can restart in MS-DOS mode (within 4 days) and at the prompt enter: scanreg /restore. Then select a started registry before the edit.

    You can also backup the registry by clicking on the registry editor's Registry>Export tab, and save either the specific key or the entire registry by Exporting it. Double clicking on it later will merge the file back and replace whatever was deleted.
     
  3. king_02891

    king_02891 Thread Starter

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    thanks a lot i'll give it a look, why 4 days, do changes become permanent after that?
     
  4. Rollin' Rog

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    When scanregistry is enabled in Msconfig>startup, by default Windows will store 5 archived cab files in c:\windows\sysbckup

    Each first boot of the day a new one is created, and the oldest one overwritten

    You can see them by doing a Find Files search for rb*

    Unfortunately due to a bug in the way the restore process works when you run scanreg /restore, the 5th or oldest gets overwritten during the restore -- causing it to fail. So in effect, only 4 days are viable.

    What I like to do from time to time is (after doing a Find Files for rb*) copy and paste a recent one to a separate backup folder. That way I can copy it back for a later restore if I need it.
     
  5. TonyKlein

    TonyKlein Malware Specialist

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    If you are hesitant about editing the registry, there are several programs that not only make nice (and more complete) alternatives for your Msconfig/startup tab, but also let you delete, rather than just disable startup items: <A HREF="http://www.delphifreestuff.com/cgi-bin/dfs_components.cgi?fw_startupmanager">Startup Manager</A> and <A HREF="http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml">Startup Control Panel </A>

    Cheers,
     
  6. TonyKlein

    TonyKlein Malware Specialist

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    Here's a screenhot of Startup Manager:
     

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    king_02891 Thread Starter

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    thanks guys these were very helpful
     
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