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Questions about Brakes for you Car Buffs

Discussion in 'Random Discussion' started by hamster, Dec 27, 2001.

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  1. hamster

    hamster Guest Thread Starter

    Hey Mac and other car experts!

    I just finished putting in a new clinder for the rear brake of a car me and my buddy is working on. It's in BUT it's only %50 better??

    The Brake light is still on?? What eles could it be??? I didn't bleed it but I didn't really need to right. I mean the brake line was off the clinder so there was the fluild was all drain out but that won't make a big difference to it anyway.

    The brake still slides but not that much. So what eles could be wrong??

    Do i really need to bleed it?? if I do any short cuts?? Why is it still SH#$%y??? and the brake lights still on???

    Help!!
     
  2. Dark Star

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    Yes you need to bleed the brakes and yo might just as well do the 4 wheels starting with the passanger rear then the drivers rear, the passanger front and last the drivers front, because that is the closest one to the master.

    If it's worth doing it's worth doing it right, I know you know that but you just thought you'd check and see if you could slide on that right?

    do not use old brake fluid to bring the level in the master cylinder to full......it picks up moisture once the can has been opened.

    DS
     
  3. MN_N8VTech

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    hey,i can actually contribute something back to this excellent site,even though dark star has pretty much answered it,since i dont know you hamster,and i dont know how much you actually know about cars,ill give a few more details,everything dark wrote is exactly correct,also keep in mind,you need to check the fluid level in the reservoir often,especially if alot of air is escaping as youre bleeding,and make sure you put the cap back on the reservoir every time,if it does run empty youll have to start all over again.i understand youve replaced a wheel cylinder...????i would also check for any other fluid leaks along the frame in case a line has rusted out.good luck:D
     
  4. hamster

    hamster Guest Thread Starter

    I tried reading the directons on the net, but it looks so confusing!! Where is the nipples!! nipples are we talking about a Cow or what????

    But not bleeding the brakes shouldn't make my brake lights on???

    and when I mean sliding I don't mean to the right... I mean I press on the brakes and it still goes!! it slides and then stop!!
     
  5. Dark Star

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    hamster,

    You so funny......it is no big deal you do know how to do this procedure right?
    If you don't just say so and we'll tell you but since I type liiiiike rrrrreallllly sssslooooow I'll wait for you to say one way or the other.

    Is this thing car that you are working on of this era? like does it have disks up front and drums in back? is it ABS brakes?
    The brake lite will stay on until you have enough fluid in the reservoir so that it is full.

    DS
     
  6. MN_N8VTech

    MN_N8VTech

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    nipple/bleeder screw??????? right??lol this is funny,sorry were laughing at your expense hamster,yes dark is right,the light will stay on until there is enough fluid in the reservoir,AND THEN,you still have to pump it a few times for the light to come back off,any luck so far????????? lol
     
  7. hamster

    hamster Guest Thread Starter

    DS, is there anything you don't know??? Do you know how to bake a muffin?? ha ha!!

    No, it's a 88 Chevy Blazer me and my bud are trying to restore. It's a hobby I like to get into!!

    But the brake reserve is full??????????????

    I know the procedure on how to do it... but where is the nipples they are talking about???

    The picture shows the guy bleeding it behind of the wheel... I thought the nipples were on the clinder itself???

    But by not bleeding the brakes it should only be spongy right, it doesn't really make a difference in how the brakes are stopped.

    So i don't think that's the difference, whould it??? thanks!
     
  8. MN_N8VTech

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    i forgot to reply to the brake light question,you mean your actual brake lights,like tail lights are staying on?,cuz then maybe your pedal is stuck somehow.?????????
     
  9. Dark Star

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    Sliding.........you have oil or brake fluid on the drums and or on the linings...........got some cleaner? brake cleaner? if you dont you can use paint thinner to clean things up no oily residue crap.
    Gasoline will clean oil but be careful because you can go boom.

    The nipples...........look on the backside of the brake plate like on the rear brakes lets say the plate is thething that your wheel cylinder is mounted on to and so are your brake linings...

    get a flashlite and shine it back there right behind the area where the wheel cylinder is bolted to the plate do you see a nipple now?..........Good I knew youd find it.
     
  10. MN_N8VTech

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    well unless dark beats me to it,ok the nipple im assuming is a protective little rubber cover on the bleeder screw which would be on the back side of the wheel cylinder,take it off to bleed :),also not bleeding will make it spongy if only a little fluid was lost,very little,replacing a wheel cylinder leaves a big air gap,the pedal probably went right to the floor right????
     
  11. MN_N8VTech

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    there is one very easy option....................................go have a beer,or a 12 pack,wake up in the morning and take it to a shop,lol. sorry trying to lighten things up,hows the progress????
     
  12. MN_N8VTech

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    sorry for so many posts,my brain works in short bursts. i just read what you said about sliding again,if you mean one wheel is sliding,and then you stop,did you bleed all 4 wheels before you tested it????? sorry if that sounds dumb,thats how i understood what you said.......this would be so easy if i could just do the stupid thing for you,grrr,lol
     
  13. hamster

    hamster Guest Thread Starter

    When I meant the Brake Light I meant the Lite on the dash board that says "Hey the brakes are f#$ked up!!"!!!

    Hey Pctech!! The beer sounds good!! But remember This is a project of ours and it's a Blazer to go crazy on!! So we would like to work on it ourselves, taking it to a shop would be cheating!!

    It does feel good when It's fixed and you get that pride!! My next project is the electirical system!! But that's a whole other thread itself!!!


    but we would never take it out on the road until it's all set. The brakes are pretty easy once you get the hang of it!!

    ps... I can't belive the Garage would charge the poor suckers $100 or more just to put in the Front brakes!!!

    All it is... just replacing a pad into it, how easy can that be!! wow..
     
  14. hamster

    hamster Guest Thread Starter

    oh and one more question, my buddy tells me the Back brakes are like useless, it's really the front brakes that does all the work. The back brakes are only for support??? Is that true???
     
  15. hamster

    hamster Guest Thread Starter

    Here guys take a break!! hummm..............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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