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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by okami426, Apr 18, 2008.

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  1. okami426

    okami426 Thread Starter

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    Hi! I'm trying to build an affordable, but powerful, updated computer for the first time. I just needed help (since I barely have any idea on how to build a computer and I'm using internet aid ^-^;;;) So I would like to list here the computer components I would like to have and their specs, so if you have any recommendations (or if the components won't even go together) please, PLEASE tell me before I waste money on buying it o_O; Please and Thank you! (NOTE: I listed the "How to build a computer" Website, the name of the component, the website where I will buy it that also has their specs, and finally the price.)

    Computer Components

    (http://www.buildacomputerguide.com/choosing-parts-and-os.html)

    • Motherboard = Nvidia MCP73 Chipset (GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i) HDMI/DVI/VGA ports e-SATA (http://www.3qstore.com/ga73pvms2h.html) Price: $82.99
    • Processor = Intel® Core ™ 2 Duo Processor (http://www.pcmall.com/pcmall/shop/d... DUO E8400-3.00G 6M 1333 I64-Boxed Processors)
    Price: $227.99
    • RAM (Memory) = 4GB (Kit of 2 x 2GB) DDR2-800 Overclocking Memory (http://www.memory.com/item.asp?item=TX800QLU-4GK)
    Price: $187.30
    • Hard Drive = Seagate ST3500641AS 500GB SATA/300 7200RPM 16MB HDD (http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ST3500641AS-R&cat=HDD)
    Price: $87.99
    • DVD/CD Drive/ Burner = Lite-On LH-20A1S SuperAllwrite SATA DVD Burner - 20x DVD±R Burn, 16x DVD±R Read, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD±R DL, 12x DVD-RAM, 48x32x CD-R/RW (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2911683&Sku=L12-1132)
    Price: $34.99
    • Computer Case = Aerocool ExtremEngine 3T Case - Black - 250mm Fan! (http://www.xoxide.com/aerocool-extremengine-3t-black.html)
    Price: $104.99
    • Power Supply = Corsair VX550W 550W ATX Power Supply - SLI-Ready, SATA-Ready (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3436149&CatId=2036)
    Price: $89.99
    • Monitor = I-Inc AG-191DPB 19" LCD Monitor - 8ms, 700:1, SXGA 1280x1024, DVI, VGA, Black, 300 cd/m², Built-In Speakers (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3120552&Sku=H94-1911)
    Price: $159.99
    • Operating System = Windows XP Home Edition (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...p=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960)
    Price: $199.99

    TOTAL (Without Tax and Shipping): $1136.22
     
  2. matthew0155

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    my only change would be go for a 32mb hard drive, and maybe a graphics card? You should be happy with that.
    p.s. you dont have to link up the os.
     
  3. steven1350

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    how about a video card ?
     
  4. +Bender+

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    I got alot of help here building my first pc,It was great! I Will never buy another pre built system again lol. the only bad thing is Once you build one You just want to build another one Bigger and Better LOL
     
  5. okami426

    okami426 Thread Starter

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    Ok, so I did some more research and put in some good video cards (hopefully I can use SLI with them... >.>) I was also wondering, what components must I check to see if they're compatible with one another? (e.g motherboard=CPU=power supply, etc.) So can I have recommendations and feedback? I really appreciate it! So here is my computer 2.0:

    Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-M57SLI-S4 AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
    (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128014)

    Price: $89.99


    CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Brisbane 2.1GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
    (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103774)

    Price: $53.99


    Memory: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
    (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145034)

    Price: $69.00


    Hard Disk Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive – OEM
    (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136075)
    Price: $47.99

    CD/DVD Drives: Sony NEC Optiarc Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1615/B2s – OEM
    (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827101131)
    Price: $17.99

    CD/DVD Burner: Pioneer Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 10X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2MB Cache IDE 20X DVD±R DVD Burner – OEM
    (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129018)
    Price: $29.99

    Computer Case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Black Aluminum & Mesh bezel / SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case – Retail
    (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119106)
    Price: $52.99

    Power Supply: ePOWER EP-520XP-C1B ATX12V 520W Power Supply 100 - 120V/ 200- 240V UL, CSA, CE, CB, FCC - Retail
    (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817101520)
    Price: $59.99

    Monitor: Hanns•G HW-173DBB Black 17" 8ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 500:1 - Retail Windows Vista Certified
    (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254018)
    Price: $149.99

    Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Home With SP2B 1 Pack - OEM
    (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116056)
    Price: $89.99

    Video Cards: XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card – Retail
    (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150229)
    Price: $94.99 x 2 = $189.98

    TOTAL: $851.89
     
  6. okami426

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  7. bigbear

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    Should all work ok together but its not going to blow you away.
    I would go for a better quality power supply.
    ThermalTake, Antec or Enermax are good quality
     
  8. crjdriver

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    Unless you really really plan on using sli [which IMO is nothing more than a gimmick] I would go with a board running an intel chipset. Nothing beats the stability of an intel cpu running on a quality board that uses an intel chipset.

    BTW zipzoomfly has the same drive for $10 less.
    zipzoomfly link
     
  9. Wasper

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    Hi,

    ok.. If you want something that is high-end, still upgradable, and will blow you away when gameing.. then look at this build. Its $250 more expensive then your first build, but its miles ahead in performance and quility.

    It has all very good, solid hardware that will play games like a champ. The motherboard is one of the best budget SLI boards today and is reviewed as the years best Motherboard. The Vid Card is the second highest powerful card on the market (the first being the 9800 GTX x2). The power supply is top notch and will handle another 9800GTX in the future if you wanted to go SLI later. I gave you 4-GB of good RAM , Vista 64-bit (so you can upgrade to 8GB RAM later), and a nice 19" Widescreen.

    COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16811119137

    CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX ATX12V / EPS12V 750W Power Supply
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16817139006

    EVGA 123-YW-E175-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i FTW SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813188026

    Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16819115037

    EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX(G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16814130339

    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16820231122

    Western Digital Caviar GP WD5000AACS 500GB 5400 to 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16822136149

    LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black SATA Model LH-20A1S OEM BK - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16827106070

    Hanns·G HB-191DPB Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16824254029

    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English 1pk DSP OEI DVD - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16832116488

    Total = $1,378.00



    If you wanted to go AMD/ ATI... then just switch out the Motherboard, CPU and Graphics Card with these...

    MSI K9A2 Platinum AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813130136

    AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX6400CZBOX - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16819103228

    SAPPHIRE Toxic 100225TXSR Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16814102732

    Build Total with AMD/ATI Components = $1,186.91


    Hope this gives you some ideas....

    Now.. If you looking to go on the cheap, thats another story... let us know your final budget your looking for, and we'd be able to help more.

    Give us your budget your willing to spend, and we can tailor make a PC to your needs/wallet.
     
  10. okami426

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    I really appreciate everyone's comment and help! My only question is: With the new GeForce 9800, would I buy another one to SLI? Or is this card good enough where I don't need two of them? Thanks! I'm thinking about keeping the products you've suggested, it's top notch and at a very good price (the computer I looked at was an dell XPS, but it was over 2k o_O) Thanks again people! I really appreciate it!

    P.S. I read the customer reviews for the graphics card and most say that it is loud when under stress, so if I get two, that would reduce it right?
     
  11. Rich-M

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    Yes you would have to buy another exactly the same to Sli but as crj said it's a gimmick for which I also see no real purpose. I also do not understand why you moved to an ordinary Amd dual core yet from Penryn Intel E8400 which has so much more "punch". Your Gigabyte board was a mistake though again as Crj pointed out as you would have been so much better off with an Intel chipset and beware cheaper boards with 2 ram slots. Better quality boards have 4 and that helps in upgrading ram where you don't have to toss out what you have to do so.
     
  12. okami426

    okami426 Thread Starter

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    So Rich-M, do you think Wasper's recomendations are good? I'm not an expert on computers, so I don't exactly know what is "top-notch" in the computer world... So I don't need to SLI right? (that video card is $200+!!!) But if I do SLI, would the programs run more quiet and efficient?
     
  13. Pookie

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    I highly doubt you will ever do anything that requires SLI. I kind of doubt you will put the top-notch video card under too much load to make it loud either unless you plan on playing crysis full bore.
     
  14. Rich-M

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    More quiet and efficient, no. Got nothing to do with that. Sli is totally unnecessary.
    Everything suggested is fine except for mobo. As we said earlier use Intel chipset for Intel cpu.
    This is the board I would recommend:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128082
     
  15. okami426

    okami426 Thread Starter

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    ok, so now that everyone is satisfied with modifying my first computer to meet my needs and whatnot, my computer's hardware would be everything wasper suggested and a change of the mobo to Rich-M's suggestion. Somewhere a little over $1.5k (I stopped calculating X.X) All I need now is a good modem, router, and wireless (internal or usb?) network adapter. Again, thanks for everyone's help!!!! (I have a feeling this computer is going to be with me for a very, very, very, VERY, long time :p)
     
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