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Residence Internet Trouble

Discussion in 'Networking' started by Soapy_Illusions, Oct 12, 2008.

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  1. Soapy_Illusions

    Soapy_Illusions Thread Starter

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    Hey guys,

    Well I moved into residence a few weeks ago, and ever since Internet has been just a complete gong show. And since I know more about computers than anyone here they have decided to let me fix it, but I am stumped.

    First of all, internet here is at a snail pace, I can't watch youtube videos, unless I leave them open for over three hours. So when I plug myself into the router and check my internet status it says the speed is 100.0 Mbps. I understand we split the internet between 24 people, but still, could it really slow it down this much, is it reasonable or is something wrong.

    Second of all our res has two routers, both of which show up has USR9108, but one is secured with a WEP and one isn't. I personally think both of them having the same SSID (is that right) would definitely mess things up, especially since one is secured and one is not.

    Another thing is most of the time when I connect to these networks I get the good old, Local Access Only, and no Internet. Most of the time I have to disconnect and reconnect for about half an hour before I can get online, and when I do it's so slow.

    Even when I do plug myself straight into the router it's really slow, and both routers connect us to the same internet connection, though sometimes it only works for me on one of them. (Which is strange)

    And finally these routers look real crappy, I'm not sure if that would slow down the internet a lot, but these are crummy routers that I only get two out of five bars when im like 25 feet away from them.

    So what can I suggest to the school to offer us all faster internet in residence, and what kinds of fixes are needed. A better internet plan (better than 100.0 Mbps... really?) or better routers (would that make things faster or just offer better signal) or something else??
     
  2. TerryNet

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    I find it extremely difficult to believe that you have 100 Mbps internet access.

    Even if the internet access is pretty good, say 10Mbps, that's not much after dividing by 24. What is it actually supposed to be?

    Also, more than about 5 users on a wireless network is going to result in a lot of congestion.
     
  3. DoubleHelix

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    :confused::confused: You're splitting a standard broadband / wireless network signal among 24 people. I'm surprised anyone can get anywhere on the 'Net.

    No, your Internet connection speed is not 100Mbps. That's the theoretical maximum internal network speed, the maximum local area network bandwidth. That's not the speed of Internet traffic.

    The problem is clearly too many users on one connection. Talk to your school's technology department, if they're providing the connection, to discuss reasonable alternatives and better connectivity.
     
  4. Soapy_Illusions

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    Well I am at a really small school and they don't know any other alternatives... what can i suggest
     
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    Buy more bandwidth from the provider. That will cost everyone more money. Also buy several wireless access points, and a small-business quality switch.
     
  6. Soapy_Illusions

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    Thanks alot for all the help, im just curious so I can properly explain everything to them
    1. By several access points, u mean different routers that we can log on to
    2. I was reading up on the switches, and the school itself is 74 students, would a 275$ switch be the size your talking about
    3. And finally does it mess up the system, right now, when we have two different router with the same name but one is password protected and the other isn't?
     
  7. TerryNet

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    1. Wireless access points. Since a wireless router is often less expensive than a comparable wireless access point, using a router is fine.

    2. Beyond my knowledge.

    3. The channel numbers they are using should differ by at least 5 to avoid possible interference issues (e.g., in North America use two of channels 1, 6 and 11). Having the SSIDs the same but the security different will, at best, cause confusion. I can't say that it is a definite problem, but I would make the security the same or use different names.
     
  8. Soapy_Illusions

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    If I was to buy my own router and stick it in my room, and plug it into the wall where the signal is coming from (the phone jack) would that boost my speed at all, especially if just me and my two roommates were the only ones to use it?
     
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    If you're talking about a phone jack you'd need more than a router, and whether you could do anything would depend on your phone service (through the school or directly from the phone company).

    Or, are you taking about an ethernet jack?
     
  10. Soapy_Illusions

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    sorry an Ethernet jack.. my bad... so what do you think?
     
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    I think you should review posts # 2 and 3. :) Without knowing more specifics such as the bandwidth you are all sharing and how many are connecting wireless and the topology of the network I don't think we can make any more guesses.

    Connect one of your computers to the ethernet. Check the bandwidth you get with something like Speakeasy. Then divide that by three. That's the average bandwidth the three of you will each get using a router.
     
  12. avisitor

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    You want to provide a model number on that switch. Chances are it can't, but maybe. If it's only for 24 people, you might get away with SOHO stuff. This might be able to do it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...gle-_-Network+-+Switches-_-Linksys-_-33124053

    You get two GigE ports that you can use to uplink to a higher speed connection/router. Something like this would allow you to bring in two WAN connections: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833120007

    You probably want to get some sort of business class internet. Perhaps Business Ethernet ($1295/mo/line at 10x10Mbps for 99.999% reliability, or if that's not so important, and it probably isn't and you'd like more speed for your money) or ADSL2 at up to 15mbps/line for about $300/line (both from Speakeasy) or, if it's available in your area, the most bang for your buck will come from VZ FiOS which can offer you 50x20Mbps.
     
  13. DoubleHelix

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    It sounds like the "school" needs to retain the services of a professional to setup and configure the network.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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