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Discussion in 'Earlier Versions of Windows' started by bonkers72, Feb 11, 2005.

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  1. bonkers72

    bonkers72 Thread Starter

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    OS WIN98 SE. Went to open the cd rom drive but it wouldn't open, locked up.
    Then the pc shut down. I tried to boot it up again but now I receive a message stating "sdram at dimm#:1
    searching for boot record from cd rom.....not found.
    Boot failure. :confused: Reboot and select proper boot device."
    Please help and explain step by step how to get her back normal.
    Thanks B-72
     
  2. JSntgRvr

    JSntgRvr Moderator Malware Specialist

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    There is a very small hole in the CD_ROM drive. Insert a paper clip thru it and open the slider door. Remove the CD.
     
  3. bonkers72

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    Did it........error still comes up at boot up.
     
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    Enter the BIOS setup utility. To enter the BIOS setup utility you must press a key based on the BIOS brand. For example, for Compaq press F10, For HP press F1, or America Megatrends, press Delete. Since I have no nformation about the brand of the BIOS in your computer I can't tell you specifically which key to press to enter the BIOS Setup utility for certain.

    Once in the BIOS utility, check if the hard drive is being detected. Check the boot order, CD_ROM first, Floppy Second, Hard drive last. You can also select to load Defaults and then Save the changes upon exiting. The most important thing is to checK if the Hard drive is being detected in the BIOS.

    Another option is to boot the Computer with a Boot diskette compatible with your Operating System and bring the computer to a command prompt. At the prompt type the following line and press Enter after each line:


    Sys C:
    Fdisk /mbr

    Remove the diskette and restart the computer. Let me know any error message experienced.
     
  5. bonkers72

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    ok I got into the BIOS setup. It was setup like this........
    1st boot device - cdrom
    2nd boot device - IDE-0
    3rd boot device - floppy
    try other boot devices - yes
    smart for hard disks - disabled
    bootup num - lock - on
    floppy drive swap - disabled
    floppy drive seek - disabled
    password check - setup
    boot to os/2>64mb - no
    L1 cach - enabled
    L2 cach - enabled
    auto detect dimm/pci clk - enabled
    clk Gen spread spectrum - disabled

    Now the only ones that changed are
    1st boot device - Ide -0
    2nd boot device - floppy
    3rd boot device - cdrom

    Now when I boot it up I get a message
    searching for boot record from scsi - not found
    " " " " " network - ok
    " " " " " floppy - not found
    " " " " " cdrom- not found
    Press <HOME> key to boot from local drive.
    I don't have a boot disk....maybe you could direct me to a good one. Thanks for the help.
     
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    You can download the OEM version at www.bootdisk.com or at http://freepctech.com/pc/002/files010.shtml.

    Change the Boot sequence to CD_ROM First, Floppy Disk drive Second, IDE-0 last. Perform the following:

     
  7. bonkers72

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    I have win 98se. At bootdisk.com they list an ALT 1 & AN ALT 2. Which should I use?
    Also is oem the kind that will work in any computer?
     
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    OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer. In my opinion it is the best as it contains the basic troubleshooting utilities.

    Alt1 and Alt2 are mirrors, meaning, places where you can download the disk from.
     
  9. bonkers72

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    Got the bootdisk. Loaded it in a: fired her up. Hereis what came up on start up........
    SDRAM AT DIMM #:1
    SEARCHING FOR BOOT RECORD FROM CDROM......NOT FOUND
    " " " " " FLOPPY........OK
    NON SYSTEM DISK OR DISK ERROR.
    REPLACE AND STRIKE ANY KEY WHEN READY..........DID IT AND THE SAME ERROR COMES UP.
     
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    You have the floppy drive seek disabled. It wont boot from the floppy unless enabled.

    Once is enabled, boot with the Boot diskette. At the prompt type the following and press Enter after each line:

    Fdisk /mbr
    Sys C:

    Post any error message received. Also, If there is a Boot Feature option in the BIOS, enable Quick Boot.
     
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    I enabled the floppy drive seek. The quick boot feature was already enabled too. Tried to boot again from the floppy..........same error. {non system disk or disk error}
     
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    :) Hello Bonkers,
    .

    When you downloaded the boot disk did you download it directly to the floppy disk or did you save it somewhere then click on it to create the boot disk?
     
  13. bonkers72

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    Directly to the floppy
     
  14. JSntgRvr

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    Oh!!!!!

    The file must be downloaded to a new folder in the computer. Once downloaded, you must double click on this file to execute the file. Insert the floppy disk in the floppy drive and follow instructions on screen to create the boot disk.
     
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    OK , I got that squared away and executed the file. Put the floppy in my win98 pc and here is what happened............Windows 98 has detected that drive c does not contain a valid fat or fat32 partition. There are several possible causes.......
    1) The drive may need to be partitioned.
    2) You may be using third party disk partitioning software.
    3) Some viruses also cause your drive c to not register. { I always have virus protection}

    The diagnostic tools were successfully loaded to drive C.

    Also at the prompt I typed sys c:enter.......invalid funtion
    fdisk/mbr - no fixed disks present.
     
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