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Solved: Conversion TO a Midi file

Discussion in 'Multimedia' started by tjc15, Mar 19, 2011.

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  1. tjc15

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    I have created some music files that need to be turned from .wma files to .mid files so I can edit them. Is there a program that does this or can I just change the file extension name? I found an expensive program but I know that usually there is something cheaper out there that does the same thing if you are looking for a specific thing.

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  2. Elvandil

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    That can't really be done. Mid files contain no sound information like a music file does. It is not a media format. The best example I can give is that a music file is like a recording of a song, while a mid file is like the sheet music for that song. It has no sound information, only the method for producing the sound. You will only be able to edit them if you write them in that format originally.

    I can tell you from experience that any program, expensive or not, can only with difficulty make such a conversion, and the results are terrible.
     
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    I understand what you are saying but my Grandpa when he wrote these used a program that you place notes up on the staff and then it playes through so basically all we need is the sheet music. Would this information change your answer any since we don't need it to sound decent?
    We used Songworks 2 to create this if that helps.

    Sorry for the trouble,
    tjc15
     
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    It is fairly easy and straightforward for computer software and hardware to accurately generate complex audio waveforms from midi files or musical notation programs like Songworks. Converting in the other direction is a lot more complicated and error prone.

    A human being listening to an audio file can usually tell that more than one instrument is playing and be able to pick out what any one instrument is playing. An experienced musician may be able to pick out and identify individual notes and chords being played by a given instrument and, given enough time, create the sheet music.

    Software development has not yet caught up with such capabilities of the human mind.
     
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    Thanks for your responses guys you really helped me out.
     
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    If SongWorks was used to create it, then another program like that can be used to edit it. Midi will cause a great deal of any song to be lost. I don't really think that is the direction you want to go. Do you still have SongWorks? Can you load the song into it?
     
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    It cannot import midis and we no longer have those type files. Is there another way to edit wma's?
     
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    Most people use Audacity to edit them, but you can't edit them note-by-note with a program like that. You really need the full and often expensive software that shows you the staffs.

    I'm a bit confused. What do you mean "import midis"? I thought you had songs in non-midi format that you originally wanted to convert to midis?

    wma and midi are as different as the Sun and the Moon. They can't be interconverted for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that they don't even support the same sounds.
     
  9. tjc15

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    What I mean is that the program creates midis and we converted them to WMA.
    Will that audacity edit wma's the way we want? Note by note.
    My guess from what you said is that the Songworks program is not the best one to use. Is there another one that you can recommend for a low price that we can still write note by note?

    Sorry for the hassle,
    tjc15
     
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