# Solved: CPU Runs very high with games

Discussion in 'Games' started by GeoLuj, Jan 26, 2013.

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1. ### GeoLujThread Starter

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Techs: Please help! My CPU is spiking to 80%-100% during game play while I am playing Pogo Games on pogo.com. This problem has been happening for a long time so I started watching my Task Mgr to try to figure out what is causing this but I've had no luck so I need your help.

I have been playing pogo games for years, using either IE or FF. Yesterday I changed browsers to Google Chrome thinking there was a compatibility issue between IE/FF and Java but that wasn't the case b/c my CPU also spikes with Chrome but different programs cause the spike. Through my own research I have found the following programs to cause the spike: java, adobe flash, adobe reader, plugin container, alg and now it's chrome.exe. When alg.exe was cauing the high CP usuage I checked my computer and found alg.exe in C:\Win\$NTServicePackUninstall$, C:\Win/Sys32, C:\Win\ServicePackFiles\i386 and alg.exe-275708cg.pf in c:\Win\Prefetch. I thought I might have a virus so I ran a full scan using SuperAntiSpyware which did not correct the problem so I then did a system restore back to Jan 11th. After that alg.exe still appears on my Task Mgr but no longer caused the extreme usage. Now the extreme usage is being caused by chrome.exe if I use Google Chrome and java.exe if I use Internet Explorer or Firefox. Note: The fans turn on high (and loud) for about a minute and the CPU spikes to 80%-100%, but only after playing for an hour or more. If I continue to play, this happens about every 30 minutes or so.

Before doing anything else I thought it would be best to ask your experts to check my logfile and see what is casuing this problem. HJ log is as follows. Systems Info is: Windows XP Home Edition, SP3, Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20 GHz, 0.99 GB of RAM.

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.4
Scan saved at 6:58:23 PM, on 1/26/2013
Platform: Windows XP SP3 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.6001.18702)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\afwServ.exe
C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\AvastSvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\1286688786\ee\AOLSoftware.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\HP Software Update\HPWuSchd2.exe
C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\avastUI.exe
C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SASCORE.EXE
C:\program files\real\realplayer\update\realsched.exe
C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\jqs.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\mbamscheduler.exe
C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\mbamservice.exe
C:\Program Files\CDBurnerXP\NMSAccessU.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WLIDSVC.EXE
C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\SoftwareUpdate\YahooAUService.exe
C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\mbamgui.exe
C:\Program Files\AOL 9.0a\waol.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WLIDSvcM.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\ACS\AOLacsd.exe
C:\Program Files\AOL 9.0a\shellmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\Topspeed\3.0\aoltpsd3.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugin-container.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Desktop\HijackThis Jan 26 2013.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.pogo.com/?pageSection=cp_header_home
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://www.yahoo.com/ext/search/search.html
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Connection Wizard,ShellNext = http://www.aim.com/
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings,ProxyOverride = 127.0.0.1
R3 - URLSearchHook: Yahoo! Toolbar - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn2\yt.dll
O2 - BHO: &Yahoo! Toolbar Helper - {02478D38-C3F9-4EFB-9B51-7695ECA05670} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn2\yt.dll
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHelperStub - {18DF081C-E8AD-4283-A596-FA578C2EBDC3} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelperShim.dll
O2 - BHO: RealPlayer Download and Record Plugin for Internet Explorer - {3049C3E9-B461-4BC5-8870-4C09146192CA} - C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Real\RealPlayer\BrowserRecordPlugin\IE\rpbrowserrecordplugin.dll
O2 - BHO: AOL Toolbar Loader - {3ef64538-8b54-4573-b48f-4d34b0238ab2} - C:\Program Files\AOL Toolbar\aoltb.dll
O2 - BHO: Spybot-S&D IE Protection - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {5AA2BA46-9913-4dc7-9620-69AB0FA17AE7} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: Yahoo! IE Services Button - {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\common\yiesrvc.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {70BC2DCB-CEB7-42DF-BE8A-195ED025D5D0} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In SSV Helper - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: avast! WebRep - {8E5E2654-AD2D-48bf-AC2D-D17F00898D06} - C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\aswWebRepIE.dll
O2 - BHO: Windows Live ID Sign-in Helper - {9030D464-4C02-4ABF-8ECC-5164760863C6} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WindowsLiveLogin.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {9427041a-a8dc-4d06-9a68-93873486e957} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: Windows Live Toolbar Helper - {BDBD1DAD-C946-4A17-ADC1-64B5B4FF55D0} - C:\Program Files\Windows Live Toolbar\msntb.dll
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper - {DBC80044-A445-435b-BC74-9C25C1C588A9} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\jp2ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {E166C33C-2783-4308-BB20-E15F1EAF8900} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {F2AA9440-6328-4933-B7C9-A6CCDF9CBF6D} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: SingleInstance Class - {FDAD4DA1-61A2-4FD8-9C17-86F7AC245081} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn2\YTSingleInstance.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Windows Live Toolbar - {BDAD1DAD-C946-4A17-ADC1-64B5B4FF55D0} - C:\Program Files\Windows Live Toolbar\msntb.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Yahoo! Toolbar - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn2\yt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: AOL Toolbar - {ba00b7b1-0351-477a-b948-23e3ee5a73d4} - C:\Program Files\AOL Toolbar\aoltb.dll
O3 - Toolbar: avast! WebRep - {8E5E2654-AD2D-48bf-AC2D-D17F00898D06} - C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\aswWebRepIE.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HostManager] C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\1286688786\ee\AOLSoftware.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HP Software Update] "C:\Program Files\HP\HP Software Update\HPWuSchd2.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [avast] "C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\avastUI.exe" /nogui
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KernelFaultCheck] %systemroot%\system32\dumprep 0 -k
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\program files\real\realplayer\update\realsched.exe" -osboot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ISUSPM Startup] C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\ISUSPM.exe -startup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [APSDaemon] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Apple Application Support\APSDaemon.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime Alternative\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Google Update] "C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe" /c
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [AOL Fast Start] "C:\Program Files\AOL 9.0a\AOL.EXE" -b
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Windows Live Search - res://C:\Program Files\Windows Live Toolbar\msntb.dll/search.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Add to Google Photos Screensa&ver - res://C:\WINDOWS\system32\GPhotos.scr/200
O8 - Extra context menu item: Add to Windows &Live Favorites - http://favorites.live.com/quickadd.aspx
O9 - Extra button: AT&T Yahoo! Services - {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\common\yiesrvc.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MI1933~1\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {DFB852A3-47F8-48C4-A200-58CAB36FD2A2} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Spybot - Search & Destroy Configuration - {DFB852A3-47F8-48C4-A200-58CAB36FD2A2} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: @xpsp3res.dll,-20001 - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {30528230-99f7-4bb4-88d8-fa1d4f56a2ab} (Installation Support) - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common\Yinsthelper20073151.dll
O16 - DPF: {FFFFFFFF-CACE-BABE-BABE-00AA0055595A} - http://www.trueswitch.com/sbcyahoo/TrueInstallSBC.exe
O20 - Winlogon Notify: cbXOFwTM - Invalid registry found
O22 - SharedTaskScheduler: Browseui preloader - {438755C2-A8BA-11D1-B96B-00A0C90312E1} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\browseui.dll
O22 - SharedTaskScheduler: Component Categories cache daemon - {8C7461EF-2B13-11d2-BE35-3078302C2030} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\browseui.dll
O23 - Service: SAS Core Service (!SASCORE) - SUPERAntiSpyware.com - C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SASCORE.EXE
O23 - Service: AOL Connectivity Service (AOL ACS) - AOL LLC - C:\Program Files\Common Files\AOL\ACS\AOLAcsd.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Antivirus - AVAST Software - C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\AvastSvc.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Firewall - AVAST Software - C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\afwServ.exe
O23 - Service: Google Update Service (gupdate) (gupdate) - Google Inc. - C:\Program Files\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe
O23 - Service: Google Update Service (gupdatem) (gupdatem) - Google Inc. - C:\Program Files\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe
O23 - Service: Java Quick Starter (JavaQuickStarterService) - Oracle Corporation - C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\jqs.exe
O23 - Service: MBAMScheduler - Malwarebytes Corporation - C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\mbamscheduler.exe
O23 - Service: MBAMService - Malwarebytes Corporation - C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\mbamservice.exe
O23 - Service: Mozilla Maintenance Service (MozillaMaintenance) - Mozilla Foundation - C:\Program Files\Mozilla Maintenance Service\maintenanceservice.exe
O23 - Service: NMSAccess - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\CDBurnerXP\NMSAccessU.exe
O23 - Service: Yahoo! Updater (YahooAUService) - Yahoo! Inc. - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\SoftwareUpdate\YahooAUService.exe

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2. ### foxidriveBanned

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1 GB ram? Up it to 3 or 4 GB and you should see a much more stable/swifter response from the OS.

I would think that the OS is using a lot of virtual memory and swapping very often to the HDD.

3. ### nikomaster

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Flash based games and videos could eat your processor time..I see you have a pentium 4 so there is no secret why the game takes over the entire processor. Pentium 4 has only 1 core so the operating system assigns the entire load to the game.

Just remember Games are high demanding CPU software applications. the best way to solve is by upgrading your CPU with more cores.

4. ### Super-D-38

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I also vote for RAM if you can't go a full new system. 1gig is very low even for a Pentium 4. Just do your research for the right speed and type of RAM. Also, older RAM may be expensive so shop around and check reviews.
My old single core with 2 gigs and a 512 video card started having trouble with new web games. More and more web pages are getting graphically "heavy". You gotta remember the computer is trying to render everything on the screen and any ads that may be trying to cycle. Plus any antivirus or other background programs, all that eats into your CPU and RAM.

Maybe even a "cheaper" video card to ease the stress on the system RAM.
I'm saying cheaper just because the system is outdated and not really worth throwing much money into.

5. ### nikomaster

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I agree, a better video card could help too.

6. ### GeoLujThread Starter

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Thank you all for the help. Sorry I didn't respond earlier. I was expecting to see an email notification about replies (which I usually get with this forum) but this with this post.

Okay, so how do I update RAM or video card? Any recommendations as to how much RAM I need or what type of video card to buy. What will this computer handle?

7. ### GeoLujThread Starter

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Sorry. Just re-read and saw that foxidrive recommened 3-4 GB of RAM. That answers one question. Will the upgrade of RAM be enough or should I also upgrade the video card?

8. ### foxidriveBanned

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My advice is to try the RAM and see how it behaves. I don't think that Flash games are as hungry for video resources than most dedicated games.

You'll have to check the ram slots for your motherboard and what they can handle.
If there is only two slots then you may need to replace two modules, if both slots are populated.

In any case see what your motherboard can handle. If it takes 2 GB modules then two of those would do for 4 GB. 32 Bit Windows can only use around 3GB.

9. ### nikomaster

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I'd recommend you to update your CPU. The structure of a game requires high demand of your CPU regardless of your Video Card or RAM. You still need a powerful CPU to make it work better and get less CPU usage.

Having a good video card helps to decrease the CPU usage as it gets all the graphics processing load, but the remaining Game tasks such as A.I collision detection and all other math calculations still lays on the CPU.

Having more RAM only helps to decrease the usage of virtual memory which involves the high usage of the hard drive.

10. ### GeoLujThread Starter

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Thank you all very much for your help. I will follow your advise and report back. I suppose I shouldn't play games until I update my system, right? Is this excessive game play destroying my computer?

This site is awesome !

11. ### foxidriveBanned

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No, it's all silicon. The hard drive is the most fragile and it's pure luck if they fail or not, in a reasonable timeframe (and if they aren't dropped).

Everything else is electronic and should last - but again you could be unlucky and a part fails. Also see the 'capacitor plague' article on wikipedia for an interesting tale.

Fans are also mechanical and will wear eventually.

Play your games and don't worry.

12. ### foxidriveBanned

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@nikomaster: If you don't have enough RAM then the hard drive access will be enormous and then reading game resources off the hard drive will be impossibly slow, making the game slow. The order I would recommend is RAM/CPU/Video and if you can spring for a solid state drive then that's also in the mix.

But maybe the OP can pick up a faster CPU at a low price after the RAM upgrade.

13. ### nikomaster

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I know this, however, I was just trying to answer the OP main question. High CPU usage, which also slows the computer a lot and increase the risk of overheating. I would also add a couple of extra gb of RAM to the upgrade.

14. ### Super-D-38

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Well, our recommendations for parts are very dependent on price of the parts. You need to research many things.
What can your motherboard handle for upgrades.
Then, since it is pretty old what is the price and availability for this outdated hardware.
Do your research on what you may need to upgrade and get a total price. It may actually be cheaper or a better idea to just get a new system, rather than keep throwing upgrades in.

15. ### GeoLujThread Starter

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Thank you all again. As I said, I will check into the upgrade to see if it's worth it for a computer this old however I did want to mention that my computer works perfectly fine. Even game play works fine and nothing is slow - not even the games. The only annoyance is the fans kicking into high gear every now and again during game play. I was afraid that my game play was overheating the CPU and that it may 'burn out'. If that's the case I will definitely stop b/c I have some very important files on this computer. My files are backed up on a flash drive but nonetheless, I still wouldn't want to lose them here.

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