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Solved: Error Booting WinXP from External USB Enclosure

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by ryoaska1, Jan 31, 2007.

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  1. ryoaska1

    ryoaska1 Thread Starter

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    I recently bought a new laptop which I intended to use as a desktop replacement, so I could devote my other box to being a media center pc. I had a drive set up to dual boot XPSP2/Win Server 2k3 which has always worked fine on that box, and because I've had that drive for a while and have everything set up the way I like it to work from that drive, I decide to buy an enclosure for it so I can just hook it up to the laptop and boot from that drive when I need to.

    I hooked it up, set my BIOS to boot from an external USB drive first, and everything appeared to be going fine. It started to boot from that drive- getting past the boot loader screen (i'm not sure if that's what it's called- the screen that lets me select which of my OSs I want to boot from), I selected XP, and the xp loading screen was displayed. After a few seconds though, I got that generic "A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer" message...no other useful error info was provided...

    If it got that far, I'm assuming it's not a problem with my laptop or enclosure not being able to boot an OS through USB, and that drive has never given me any problems, so I'm not really sure where to start... Here are the specifics-

    HD I'm trying to boot from:
    Western Digital WD3000

    Enclosure:
    Macally PHR 100abc (firewire 800/usb2.0 external enclosure)

    Laptop:
    HP Pavillion dv9000

    System Info:
    OS
    -----------
    Windows XP SP2

    Motherboard
    -------------
    Manufacturer Quanta
    Model 30BD
    Version 66.35
    Serial Number None
    Chipset Vendor Intel Corporation
    Chipset Model 955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller
    South Bridge 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Controller
    SMBus Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller @18E0h
    CPU Intel Core 2 Duo
    Cpu Socket Socket 479 [U2E1]

    BIOS
    ------------
    BIOS Version HP - 6040000
    Ver 1.00PARTTBLv
    BIOS Date 12/19/06

    CPU
    ------------
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz

    Memory
    ------------
    2048 MBytes
    Manufacturer Samsung
    Part Number M4 70T2864AZ3-CE6

    PCI
    -----------
    00 / 00 / 00 PCI PCI to HOST Bridge Intel Corporation 955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
    00 / 01 / 00 PCI-X PCI to PCI Bridge Intel Corporation 955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express PCI Express Root Port
    00 / 1b / 00 PCI-X Hi-Definition Audio Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Hewlett-Packard Company
    00 / 1c / 00 PCI-X PCI to PCI Bridge Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port
    00 / 1c / 01 PCI-X PCI to PCI Bridge Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port
    00 / 1c / 02 PCI-X PCI to PCI Bridge Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port
    00 / 1d / 00 PCI USB (UHCI) Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
    00 / 1d / 01 PCI USB (UHCI) Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
    00 / 1d / 02 PCI USB (UHCI) Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
    00 / 1d / 03 PCI USB (UHCI) Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
    00 / 1d / 07 PCI USB 2.0 (EHCI) Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
    00 / 1e / 00 PCI PCI to PCI Bridge (Subtractive Decode) Intel Corporation 82801BAM/CAM/DBM (ICH2-M/3-M/4-M) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge
    00 / 1f / 00 PCI PCI to ISA Bridge Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
    00 / 1f / 01 PCI Bus Master IDE controller Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
    00 / 1f / 02 PCI Serial ATA (AHCI 1.0) Intel Corporation 82801GB Mobile I/O Controller Hub SATA cc=AHCI Hewlett-Packard Company
    00 / 1f / 03 PCI SMBus Controller Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
    01 / 00 / 00 PCI-X VGA Controller Nvidia Corp GeForce Go 7600 Hewlett-Packard Company
    02 / 00 / 00 PCI-X Other Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Hewlett-Packard Company PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
    03 / 00 / 00 PCI-X PCI to PCI Bridge Texas Instruments (TI) PCI Express to PCI Bridge
    04 / 00 / 00 PCI OHCI FireWire Texas Instruments (TI) TSB82AA2 IEEE-1394b Link Layer Controller
    06 / 00 / 00 PCI-X Ethernet Intel Corporation PRO/1000 PL Network Connection Hewlett-Packard Company
    08 / 05 / 00 PCI OHCI FireWire Ricoh Co Ltd
    08 / 05 / 01 PCI SD Host Controller (Without DMA) Ricoh Co Ltd SD Bus Host Adapter Hewlett-Packard Company
    08 / 05 / 02 PCI Other Ricoh Co Ltd MMC Bus Host Adapter Hewlett-Packard Company
    08 / 05 / 03 PCI Other Ricoh Co Ltd Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter Hewlett-Packard Company
    08 / 05 / 04 PCI Other Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller Hewlett-Packard Company


    USB2.0 EHCI (from usb 2.0 line above)
    ------------------------
    Property Value
    CompatibleIDs PCI\VEN_8086DEV_27CCREV_02
    PCI\VEN_8086DEV_27CC
    PCI\VEN_8086CC_0C0320
    PCI\VEN_8086CC_0C03
    PCI\VEN_8086
    PCI\CC_0C0320
    PCI\CC_0C03
    ClassGUID {36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}
    Class USB
    Driver {36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}\0004
    Mfg Intel
    Service usbehci
    ConfigFlags 0
    ParentIdPrefix 41c4f15410

    Device Configuration File oem9.inf
    CoInstallers32 hccoin.dll,HCCOIN_Entry
    EnumPropPages32 usbui.dll,USBControllerPropPageProvider
    Controller 01
    InfPath oem9.inf
    InfSection INTEL_USB2
    InfSectionExt .NT
    ProviderName Intel
    DriverDateData 00 80 ED 42 51 AF C5 01
    DriverDate 9-2-2005
    DriverVersion 7.2.2.1001
    MatchingDeviceId pci\ven_8086dev_27cc
    DriverDesc Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC
    EnIdleEndpointSupport 0
    EnIdleEndpointSupportEx 1
    EnSoftRetry 0

    Class USB
    Universal Serial Bus controllers
    Icon -20
    NoInstallClass 1
    TroubleShooter-0 hcp://help/tshoot/tsUSB.htm

    I was reeeally close to getting the perfect setup I wanted... I'd REALLY like to find a way to solve this problem without having to do a re-install of windows, but any information that might lead me in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks!
     
  2. Rollin' Rog

    Rollin' Rog

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    I've moved you to the hardware forum -- this really isn't my strong area -- but let me clarify something.

    You had Windows installed and booting from an external drive on ANOTHER computer and now you want to boot it from the Laptop?

    I think the problem here is that on the other computer Windows installed IDE controller drivers for THAT computer which are not compatible with your laptop's motherboard chipset.

    You *might* be able to reinstall Windows on the drive without doing a clean install to get compatible drivers -- but doing this on an external USB drive -- I think you need some more experienced help from this forum.
     
  3. ryoaska1

    ryoaska1 Thread Starter

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    Thanks a lot for the response!

    I was really hoping re-installing wouldn't be my only option. I knew I could do a windows re-install without blowing away my old data (i actually had to do that recently), but my main problem with that is that I have several software applications that need activation, and have been activated on the maximum number of PCs. That can really be a pain to resolve- as well as just setting everything up on 2k3 server agian and everything. But if it comes down to it, I guess I'll have to take that road

    To clarify- I had the xp/server2k3 dual boot drive installed and running internally on my other computer, but I put it into an external enclosure so I could boot into those installs from my laptop and re-purpose the old box.

    I'm thinking your diagnosis sounds pretty reasonable, but I'm surprised I haven't run into this problem before then... Or at least run into it through other people more often. It doesn't seem like such a strange situation for someone to just switch out mobos expecting to be able to use the same hd/windows installation.
     
  4. JohnWill

    JohnWill Retired Moderator

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    You have more than one issue. The first one was covered by Rollin' Rog. However, Windows will fail to boot from a USB/Firewire external disk anyway, because the controllers get reset during the boot process and the boot fails.

    There are hacks to Windows to boot from USB devices, but I've never tried them, and I wouldn't recommend them anyway.
     
  5. ryoaska1

    ryoaska1 Thread Starter

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    I think you guys have boiled it downn...no matter where I look, I seem to run into those two problems. I read up on those hacks a little bit, and they would be interesting to try, but like you said, I probably don't want to do that with a drive I really have to count on.

    I wanted the quick fix just to get myself up and running, but now that I've thought this through more, this is probably not the solution I wanted anyway... the xp install wouldn't be so bad, but why would I run windows server from an external usb drive...:confused: The main problem with the laptop drive is not enough storage. So what I should probably do is just dual boot my internal laptop drive, redo all my setup (...) and just use the external drive as storage.


    Well- thanks a lot anyway. At least I learned something new.
     
  6. JohnWill

    JohnWill Retired Moderator

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    You can mark your own threads solved using the thread tools at the upper right of the screen.© :)
     
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