Solved: Error Booting WinXP from External USB Enclosure

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ryoaska1

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I recently bought a new laptop which I intended to use as a desktop replacement, so I could devote my other box to being a media center pc. I had a drive set up to dual boot XPSP2/Win Server 2k3 which has always worked fine on that box, and because I've had that drive for a while and have everything set up the way I like it to work from that drive, I decide to buy an enclosure for it so I can just hook it up to the laptop and boot from that drive when I need to.

I hooked it up, set my BIOS to boot from an external USB drive first, and everything appeared to be going fine. It started to boot from that drive- getting past the boot loader screen (i'm not sure if that's what it's called- the screen that lets me select which of my OSs I want to boot from), I selected XP, and the xp loading screen was displayed. After a few seconds though, I got that generic "A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer" message...no other useful error info was provided...

If it got that far, I'm assuming it's not a problem with my laptop or enclosure not being able to boot an OS through USB, and that drive has never given me any problems, so I'm not really sure where to start... Here are the specifics-

HD I'm trying to boot from:
Western Digital WD3000

Enclosure:
Macally PHR 100abc (firewire 800/usb2.0 external enclosure)

Laptop:
HP Pavillion dv9000

System Info:
OS
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Windows XP SP2

Motherboard
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Manufacturer Quanta
Model 30BD
Version 66.35
Serial Number None
Chipset Vendor Intel Corporation
Chipset Model 955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller
South Bridge 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Controller
SMBus Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller @18E0h
CPU Intel Core 2 Duo
Cpu Socket Socket 479 [U2E1]

BIOS
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BIOS Version HP - 6040000
Ver 1.00PARTTBLv
BIOS Date 12/19/06

CPU
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Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz

Memory
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2048 MBytes
Manufacturer Samsung
Part Number M4 70T2864AZ3-CE6

PCI
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00 / 00 / 00 PCI PCI to HOST Bridge Intel Corporation 955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
00 / 01 / 00 PCI-X PCI to PCI Bridge Intel Corporation 955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express PCI Express Root Port
00 / 1b / 00 PCI-X Hi-Definition Audio Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Hewlett-Packard Company
00 / 1c / 00 PCI-X PCI to PCI Bridge Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port
00 / 1c / 01 PCI-X PCI to PCI Bridge Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port
00 / 1c / 02 PCI-X PCI to PCI Bridge Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port
00 / 1d / 00 PCI USB (UHCI) Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
00 / 1d / 01 PCI USB (UHCI) Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
00 / 1d / 02 PCI USB (UHCI) Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
00 / 1d / 03 PCI USB (UHCI) Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
00 / 1d / 07 PCI USB 2.0 (EHCI) Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
00 / 1e / 00 PCI PCI to PCI Bridge (Subtractive Decode) Intel Corporation 82801BAM/CAM/DBM (ICH2-M/3-M/4-M) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge
00 / 1f / 00 PCI PCI to ISA Bridge Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
00 / 1f / 01 PCI Bus Master IDE controller Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
00 / 1f / 02 PCI Serial ATA (AHCI 1.0) Intel Corporation 82801GB Mobile I/O Controller Hub SATA cc=AHCI Hewlett-Packard Company
00 / 1f / 03 PCI SMBus Controller Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller Hewlett-Packard Company
01 / 00 / 00 PCI-X VGA Controller Nvidia Corp GeForce Go 7600 Hewlett-Packard Company
02 / 00 / 00 PCI-X Other Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Hewlett-Packard Company PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
03 / 00 / 00 PCI-X PCI to PCI Bridge Texas Instruments (TI) PCI Express to PCI Bridge
04 / 00 / 00 PCI OHCI FireWire Texas Instruments (TI) TSB82AA2 IEEE-1394b Link Layer Controller
06 / 00 / 00 PCI-X Ethernet Intel Corporation PRO/1000 PL Network Connection Hewlett-Packard Company
08 / 05 / 00 PCI OHCI FireWire Ricoh Co Ltd
08 / 05 / 01 PCI SD Host Controller (Without DMA) Ricoh Co Ltd SD Bus Host Adapter Hewlett-Packard Company
08 / 05 / 02 PCI Other Ricoh Co Ltd MMC Bus Host Adapter Hewlett-Packard Company
08 / 05 / 03 PCI Other Ricoh Co Ltd Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter Hewlett-Packard Company
08 / 05 / 04 PCI Other Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller Hewlett-Packard Company


USB2.0 EHCI (from usb 2.0 line above)
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Property Value
CompatibleIDs PCI\VEN_8086DEV_27CCREV_02
PCI\VEN_8086DEV_27CC
PCI\VEN_8086CC_0C0320
PCI\VEN_8086CC_0C03
PCI\VEN_8086
PCI\CC_0C0320
PCI\CC_0C03
ClassGUID {36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}
Class USB
Driver {36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000}\0004
Mfg Intel
Service usbehci
ConfigFlags 0
ParentIdPrefix 41c4f15410

Device Configuration File oem9.inf
CoInstallers32 hccoin.dll,HCCOIN_Entry
EnumPropPages32 usbui.dll,USBControllerPropPageProvider
Controller 01
InfPath oem9.inf
InfSection INTEL_USB2
InfSectionExt .NT
ProviderName Intel
DriverDateData 00 80 ED 42 51 AF C5 01
DriverDate 9-2-2005
DriverVersion 7.2.2.1001
MatchingDeviceId pci\ven_8086dev_27cc
DriverDesc Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC
EnIdleEndpointSupport 0
EnIdleEndpointSupportEx 1
EnSoftRetry 0

Class USB
Universal Serial Bus controllers
Icon -20
NoInstallClass 1
TroubleShooter-0 hcp://help/tshoot/tsUSB.htm

I was reeeally close to getting the perfect setup I wanted... I'd REALLY like to find a way to solve this problem without having to do a re-install of windows, but any information that might lead me in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
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I've moved you to the hardware forum -- this really isn't my strong area -- but let me clarify something.

You had Windows installed and booting from an external drive on ANOTHER computer and now you want to boot it from the Laptop?

I think the problem here is that on the other computer Windows installed IDE controller drivers for THAT computer which are not compatible with your laptop's motherboard chipset.

You *might* be able to reinstall Windows on the drive without doing a clean install to get compatible drivers -- but doing this on an external USB drive -- I think you need some more experienced help from this forum.
 

ryoaska1

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Thanks a lot for the response!

I was really hoping re-installing wouldn't be my only option. I knew I could do a windows re-install without blowing away my old data (i actually had to do that recently), but my main problem with that is that I have several software applications that need activation, and have been activated on the maximum number of PCs. That can really be a pain to resolve- as well as just setting everything up on 2k3 server agian and everything. But if it comes down to it, I guess I'll have to take that road

To clarify- I had the xp/server2k3 dual boot drive installed and running internally on my other computer, but I put it into an external enclosure so I could boot into those installs from my laptop and re-purpose the old box.

I'm thinking your diagnosis sounds pretty reasonable, but I'm surprised I haven't run into this problem before then... Or at least run into it through other people more often. It doesn't seem like such a strange situation for someone to just switch out mobos expecting to be able to use the same hd/windows installation.
 

JohnWill

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You have more than one issue. The first one was covered by Rollin' Rog. However, Windows will fail to boot from a USB/Firewire external disk anyway, because the controllers get reset during the boot process and the boot fails.

There are hacks to Windows to boot from USB devices, but I've never tried them, and I wouldn't recommend them anyway.
 

ryoaska1

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I think you guys have boiled it downn...no matter where I look, I seem to run into those two problems. I read up on those hacks a little bit, and they would be interesting to try, but like you said, I probably don't want to do that with a drive I really have to count on.

I wanted the quick fix just to get myself up and running, but now that I've thought this through more, this is probably not the solution I wanted anyway... the xp install wouldn't be so bad, but why would I run windows server from an external usb drive...:confused: The main problem with the laptop drive is not enough storage. So what I should probably do is just dual boot my internal laptop drive, redo all my setup (...) and just use the external drive as storage.


Well- thanks a lot anyway. At least I learned something new.
 

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You can mark your own threads solved using the thread tools at the upper right of the screen.© :)
 
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