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Discussion in 'General Security' started by pcguy9441, Oct 20, 2012.

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  1. pcguy9441

    pcguy9441 Thread Starter

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    Does anyone know if the version of McAfee that ATT provides free is the same rev you could buy online or in stores today?

    I installed it and it's security center v 11.0.678, virus scan 15.0.302

    The one you can buy online at the McAfee site is called antivirus plus 2013 v 11.6.385

    The mismatch in rev nos. indicates the ATT version is an old rev engine but I'm not sure if I'm comparing apples with apples on the version numbers or package names.

    I know McAfee has been at the back of the pack for years, but has just moved up with these guys
    http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/docs/avc_fdt_201209_en.pdf

    so thought I'd take it for a spin. AVG, my previous AV is not looking so good.
     
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    Can`t answer your question, but I have AT&T/Yahoo myself, and have for years. The first thing I did was to ditch the free McAfee Antivirus, and installed MSE.
     
  3. pcguy9441

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    I know, I've been down on McAfee for years and they seemed to get worse since Intel, but again, they seem to be improving according to this: http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/docs/avc_fdt_201209_en.pdf

    Used to be big resource hog but so far no problems but it's only been installed 1 day.

    I use MSE on wife's laptop and so far no infections but have never had one ever anyway since she's cautious.
     
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    I think it's common for security programs provided by Internet providers to be a bit behind on the versions as they are putting their name on it (In this case, I believe it's called ATT Internet Security Suite powered by McAfee) so they probably have to check out the new version, see what's been changed, etc. New versions generally fix bugs or add new features and as long as you're receiving the most recent virus definitions, you should still have the same basic level of protection. I'd suggest contacting ATT to see if a newer version is available (perhaps it's not an automatic thing) and if not when it might be. :)
     
  5. pcguy9441

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    Good answer! I'm ok with it being a little behind (UI, etc) as long as still finds the bad stuff. I'm just looking for a small foot print, so the jury is still out as I have not used McAfee for 3-4 yrs.

    Thank you.
     
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    You're welcome. :)
     
  7. Snagglegaster

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    If you want a quality AV program with a small footprint, you're not going to get that with McAfee. I'd suggest you go back to AV-Comparatives and spend a bit more time with their evaluations. There are plenty of free and paid programs that perform better. You'd do well to remember that any antivirus software supplied by your ISP just got there by being the lowest bidder.
     
  8. pcguy9441

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    Uh, yeah.... good point. And they did pick one of the worse, at least in recent years. AV Comp did bump it up in the Sept tests, so that's why I'm giving it another try. Not that I can actually evaluate it's malware effectiveness unless I want to walk on the "wild side" for a while and look for trouble to see what happens. Naw, probably not...
     
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    ISPs and computer manufacturers litter their offerings with tons of junkware including AV software. Essentially, it's all about smoke and mirrors; they want to be seen as providing top quality protection without the expense of actually doing it.

    When you look at test results from any authoritative site like AV-Comparatives or Virus Bulletin, you should look more at long term trends, and ignore short term fluctuations. If you own IBM stock, and it dips a point or two, do you sell it all? Can you say rhetorical question? You certainly wouldn't dump IBM for a daily downturn, and you wouldn't buy some penny stock as a long term investment based on a good day.
     
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    Yes, I see your analogy with stocks (I'm also a market junkie) but thought I'd seen an improvement trend in recent months with McAfee in AV Comparative's reports. In the meantime, I just dumped McAfee in favor of Avira-Free. This is all an experimental process and I know how to thoroughly uninstall an AV app I don't want.

    Problems with McAfee? 1) Still a CPU hog, scans are slow per file, a big drag on system performance, 2) no "quick scan" or scan only "C" check box. if you want to just scan "C", you have to manually exclude all other drives/partitions; a big pain. I don't need to scan 4gigs of mp3's that have not been touched in 6-7 yrs., 3) the UI in general is clunky and awkward to use vs. the competition. To exit a given mode, you have to loop back to "home" and start over (there's no <-- go back).

    Now, on Avira-Free, here's my take and please tell me what I'm missing: 1) it too has no quick scan or "only C" scan. You need to scan the whole bleepin system (three hard drives with 1.5TB for me). Yeah, I know you can cherry pick file extensions, but that's not practical. 2) at first I thought there was no "scan now" feature, but with some digging I found it. Not very intuitive, 3) want's too much user interaction with pop-ups you need to reply to. I'm using sleep mode and I want the machine to shut down after 1 hr of idle time. The run last night defeated sleep mode and the machine stayed on waiting for me to respond. Now for some reason when I press the front panel START button, it only turns off the monitor. ??? I'm still debugging this. Please tell me I'm screwed up here and Avira's better than I think. it's AV detection/repair ratings are pretty decent.
     
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    Correction: Avira DOES have a "quick scan" in manual mode. also, I selected "quick scan" for a scheduled scan but it still seemed to scan everything last night. Will try again, could be operator error. I also selected "invisible" to see if that defeats the pop-ups.
     
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    I like Avira a lot. It's a little heavier on resources than MSE, but I think it provides better protection. Avast is still a decent product, but it's gotten pretty bloated. Personally, I'm a dedicated NOD32 user.

    In addition to good AV software, I think you also need Malwarebytes Anti Malware. Over the last few months, the product has made serious improvements, and I don't recommend or use alternative products except in special cases anymore. I'd suggest purchasing the full version. It's inexpensive and effective. I used to tell clients that they could just update the product and run it manually every week or so, and that would keep them pretty safe. Then I started seeing too many users who were running scans with databases that were, like, 143 days out of date and program versions that were 3 or 4 versions old.

    Generally, with any AV/Malware protection software, I prefer to run a full scan every time. Just schedule the scan for the time you're not on the computer, and pick times that don't compete with Windows Update settings and the like.
     
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    Thanks for the input! I've been a big believer in MBAM for years and bought the $ version long ago. I fix friends&family PC's for fun and it's bailed me out many times repairing seemingly dead machines. I'm done with my mini non-scientific AV survey/experiments and am back with AVG. I love it's interface, ease-of-use and small footprint but can't attest to it's relative detection capabilities beyond what I read in reviews. It may not be = to Kaspersky or Bitdefender or Norton in detection/repair, but I'm now tending towards "good enough" is in fact good enough for someone exercising some degree of caution and surfing prudence. I've been running MSE on my wife's laptop for the past 9 mo with no problems and she's not as risk aware as I am (tons of internet shopping and retail email promotions with flakey links) and no problems yet. It's UI is very clean and user friendly but it gets crappy reviews for detection/repair. It may in fact just be "good enough" for anyone not walking the wild side.

    I found Avira too clunky and awkward to use. Maybe it's detection is fantastic, but there are too many choices out there not to demand a user friendly UI like AVG's. also, Avira constantly pesters you to upgrade.

    I was a big NOD32 user for years till I decided to go "free". I was getting all my $ AV apps free with rebates at Fry's Electronics in Nor Cal and got tired of the rebate hassles. You still pay CA sales tax and spend an hour messing with paperwork, so not really "free".
     
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