[Solved] have to press esc. to get computer to start up ....

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febe01

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please help fast!!!!

im running a hewlett packard pavilion with windows98 second edition and my computer was running slow

so i tryed scandisk, defraging, removing programs (i have 63.0MB of ram) nothing worked

so i ran the HP pavilion system recovery disk and then reinstalled the printer,scanner,internet,ect.

then the start up was like 10-15 mins long wait and i would have to press esc to get it going

so i came here and read other responses and removed all the extras in the start up and now its like 5 mins but you still have to press esc a few times

please help ive been trying with this for almost a month before i found this site

ps before i press escape the first time there is a black screen with C: / ( / is the other way but i couldnt type it )
 

~Candy~

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Hi febe01,

Start button, run, then type sysedit and hit ok....

Post what you have in the autoexec.bat and the config.sys tabs.
 

febe01

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C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1\SCAN.EXE C:\
@IF ERRORLEVEL 1 PAUSE
REM [Header]
@ECHO OFF
REM [CD-ROM Drive]
REM [Miscellaneous]
REM [Display]
REM [Sound, MIDI, or Video Capture Card]
REM [Mouse]
rem - By Windows Setup - mscdex.exe /d:IDECD000 /L:M

this is it
thanks febe01
 

~Candy~

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PM rec'd from the user with additional requested information:

this is the config.sys

REM To make a DOS Boot Diskette; See the file C:\DOSBOOT\DOSBOOT.TXT

[common]
device=c:\windows\himem.sys /testmemff
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE /NOEMS
DEVICE=c:\cdrom\oakcdrom.SYS /D:IDECD000


I'm not sure how much startup time will be cut off, but you shouldn't need either of those for windows 98....I'm wondering out loud if we renamed them to old and tried restarting if it would cut down start up time.....let's wait to see if anyone else has any ideas......
 
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Shouldn't be any problem with doing that, but it rather looks like the halts are due to the McAfee scan configured in autoexec.bat.

Should be a user interface to disable that some place (Not a McAfee person myself)
 

febe01

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should i try what you've said above for the slowness???

and what about having to get rid of the black screen and C: \
thanks febe01
 

~Candy~

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Thanks Rog :)

The black screen with the C:\ is normal if you press the ESC key....pressing the ESC key rids the windows 98 splash screen...it's not getting the computer started any faster, you can just see 'behind' the scene so to speak.

Let's go ahead and rename those 2 files.

Start button, programs, MS DOS prompt, you should be at c:\windows

Type cd..
and press enter (that's 2 periods after the cd)

Now you should be at a c:\ prompt

Type
ren autoexec.bat autoexec.old
and press enter (space after the n and space after the 't' in .bat)

Type
ren config.sys config.old
and press enter (space after the n in 'ren' and space after the second 's' in .sys)

Close the dos window, restart the computer.
 

febe01

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where am i typing this??????
start button
programs and then i dont have any MS DOS prompt?
 

~Candy~

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Hmmm, that's nice.... :(

Then try this, start button, run, then type:
command
and press ok....

If you are at c:\windows\desktop

type cd...

(with three periods)

and go from there.....
 

febe01

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ok i did what you said and its still 3-5 mins wait

and the black screen with c: \ comes up automatically and wont continue starting if i dont press esc then it goes to the win98 screen and hangs for 3-5 mins and starts
 
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febe01, I'm going to give you two links to applications that may help us analyze this problem. One is the Startuplog from the Reticulated Toys site:

http://home.earthlink.net/~rmbox/Reticulated/Toys.html

You should download the startuplog zip file, unzip it and run the StartupLog.com program. It will create a Startuplog.txt file on your desktop. If you post that (not stubbpaths.txt) in your next reply, we can see everything which is trying to load at startup. Just copy/paste the entire log here.

The second one is Bootlog analyzer. For now just download it to a convenient folder and have it handy. I'll give instructions on using it if necessary.

http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/

Also, do you have a Network Interface Card installed, and are you networked?
 

febe01

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---------- C:\WINDOWS\desktop\StartUp.Log

Start-Ups checked at 11-08-2001 1:58:26.53p
__________________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________________

StartUp Log for Windows 95/98 - Freeware by rmbox
__________________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________________

Comments:

This is a log of all the programs on your computer that
are starting automatically every time you start Windows.
Using this log can be a quick way to spot trojans.

StartUp Log (version 1.53) - Release Date 8/19/2001

__________________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________________

StartUp Log Index

1. HKLM Run
2. HKCU Run
3. HKLM RunOnce
4. HKCU RunOnce
5. HKLM RunServices
6. HKLM RunServicesOnce
7. WIN.INI file
8. SYSTEM.INI file
9. AUTOEXEC.BAT file
10. StartUp folder
11. All Users StartUp
12. Misc. StartUp Configurations

__________________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________________

The following is a list of your current Start-Ups
__________________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________________

1. HKLM Run - Registry

[RegPath]
"StartUp"


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"McAfeeWebScanX"="C:\\PROGRAM FILES\\NETWORK ASSOCIATES\\MCAFEE VIRUSSCAN\\WebScanX.exe"


==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

2. HKCU Run - Registry

[RegPath]
"StartUp"


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"MSMSGS"="C:\\Program Files\\Messenger\\msmsgs.exe /background"


==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

3. HKLM RunOnce - Registry

[RegPath]
"StartUp"


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce]


==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

4. HKCU RunOnce - Registry

[RegPath]
"StartUp"


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce]


==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

5. HKLM RunServices - Registry

[RegPath]
"StartUp"


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices]


==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

6. HKLM RunServicesOnce - Registry

[RegPath]
"StartUp"


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce]


==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

7. WIN.INI File - (c:\windows\win.ini)

Your win.ini run/load lines should look like run= and load= exclusively.
There should be nothing to the right of the equal signs.


These are the run and load lines in your WIN.INI file

norun=hpfsched

load=

==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

8. SYSTEM.INI File - (c:\windows\system.ini)

Your system.ini shell line should look like shell=Explorer.exe exclusively.
You should only see Explorer.exe following the equal sign.


This is the shell line in your SYSTEM.INI file

shell=Explorer.exe

==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

9. AUTOEXEC.BAT File - (c:\autoexec.bat)

(Some trojans have been known to start from this file)


These are your program startups and set paths in your autoexec.bat file

C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1\SCAN.EXE C:\
@IF ERRORLEVEL 1 PAUSE
REM [Header]
@ECHO OFF
REM [CD-ROM Drive]
REM [Miscellaneous]
REM [Display]
REM [Sound, MIDI, or Video Capture Card]
REM [Mouse]
rem - By Windows Setup - mscdex.exe /d:IDECD000 /L:M





==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

10. StartUp Folder - (c:\windows\start menu\programs\startup)

Shortcuts to any program will automatically start when placed here.


These are the shortcuts located in your StartUp folder

*(No start-ups found)*

==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

11. All Users Folder - (c:\windows\all users\start menu\programs\startup)

Shortcuts to any program will automatically start when placed here.


These are the shortcuts located in your All Users StartUp folder


*(No start-ups found)*

==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

12. Miscellaneous StartUp Configurations

-============================-
Registry StartUp Directories
-============================-

Should show the Start Menu StartUp and All Users StartUp directories

.....................................................................

[1] HKCU - Shell Folders

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders

"Startup"="C:\\WINDOWS\\Start Menu\\Programs\\StartUp"

.....................................................................

[2] HKCU - User Shell Folders

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders


.....................................................................

[3] HKLM - Shell Folders

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Shell Folders

"Common Startup"="C:\\WINDOWS\\All Users\\Start Menu\\Programs\\StartUp"

.....................................................................

[4] HKLM - User Shell Folders

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\User Shell Folders


.....................................................................

-=======================-
Registry Shell Spawning
-=======================-

Open Commands for Executable File Types

@="\"%1\" %*"
(.exe file - RegPath = HKCR\exefile\shell\open\command)

@="\"%1\" %*"
(.com file - RegPath = HKCR\comfile\shell\open\command)

@="\"%1\" /S"
(.scr file - RegPath = HKCR\scrfile\shell\open\command)

@="\"%1\" %*"
(.bat file - RegPath = HKCR\batfile\shell\open\command)

@="\"%1\" %*"
(.pif file - RegPath = HKCR\piffile\shell\open\command)

@="C:\\WINDOWS\\SYSTEM\\MSHTA.EXE \"%1\" %*"
(.hta file - RegPath = HKCR\htafile\shell\open\command)

-=========================-
HKLM RunOnceEx - Registry
-=========================-


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx]


-====================-
StubPaths - Registry (Partial Listing)
-====================-

(Please see the StubPath.txt on your desktop for complete listing)

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components


"StubPath"="c:\\windows\\SYSTEM\\ie4uinit.exe"
"StubPath"="c:\\windows\\msnmgsr1.exe"
"StubPath"=""
"StubPath"="c:\\windows\\COMMAND\\sulfnbk.exe /L"
"StubPath"="\"C:\\PROGRA~1\\OUTLOO~1\\setup50.exe\" /APP:OE /CALLER:WIN9X /user /install"
"StubPath"="\"C:\\PROGRA~1\\OUTLOO~1\\setup50.exe\" /APP:WAB /CALLER:WIN9X /user /install"

-=================-
DOSSTART.BAT File - (c:\windows\dosstart.bat)
-=================-

@echo off
REM To make a DOS Boot Diskette, see the file C:\DosBoot\DosBoot.txt.

set path=c:\windows\command

mscdex.exe /d:IDECD000 /L:M

SET PROMPT=$p$g
SET TEMP=C:\windows\TEMP
SET TMP=C:\windows\TEMP

call c:\dosboot\drivers.bat

c:\windows\smartdrv /q
c:
cd \windows


REM for DOS Networking including most networked games,
REM read the file IPX.BAT and then uncomment the following
REM CALL C:\DOSBOOT\IPX.BAT

-=====================-
Screen Saver Settings (Possible system.ini start-up)
-=====================-

SCRNSAVE.EXE=C:\WINDOWS\System\THE60'~1.SCR

==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

- Supplemental Environment Information -

TMP=c:\windows\TEMP
TEMP=C:\windows\TEMP
winbootdir=C:\WINDOWS
PATH=C:\WINDOWS;c:\windows;c:\windows\COMMAND
COMSPEC=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND.COM
windir=C:\WINDOWS

File - c:\windows\deletefi.ini

==========================================================================
__________________________________________________________________________

- End -



andi dont know what a network interface card is and no im not networked
 
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Looks like you still have autoexec.bat loading.

Let's try this:

>> close all programs and your internet connection

>> go to Start and run msconfig

>> on the General tab, clear the check for "load autoexec.bat", click OK

>> restart your computer and see if the same problem occurs.
 

Bryan

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Just curious, did you rename the autoexec.bat and config.sys back to .bat and .sys before you ran the Startlog program? If not then it looks like they were never renamed.
 

febe01

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ok i did that and now the c: \ that was automatically coming on is gone thank you thank you thank you !!!!!

buuutttt the computer is still taking 5-10 mins to start up

thanks a lot
 
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