Solved: PC booting problems, after routine check by me!

[mclarenvj]

Hi, as some of you who helped me find components for my PC should know, my pc's specs are-
-Intel Pentium D 935 3.2Ghz
-Intel Essential Series GCL945 Motherboard
-BT Voyager 1040 PCI Wi-Fi Adapter
-250GB Hitatchi Sata-2 HDD
-HP DVD Writer 940i
-Random Old Philips DVD +/- RW DVD Drive
-Hauppage WinTV PVR-150 MCE
-Colours 600W PSU
-Jeantech Phong II ATX Case
-1GB Kingston DDR2 PC5400 RAM

So, heres the story

First I had the problem of my CPU heating to around 70 deg. cel. normal temp. i know what i have to do to solve this, but the cooling paste hasnt arrived yet.
so today i decided to look inside the PC and Modify a few things...
all i modified is-
-I inserted a PCI x16 ATI 256MB Graphics Card
-I moved the Sata-2 Connection from SATA-2 Port 3 to SATA-2 Port 0

Since i have been planning a new installation of WinXP Pro SP2 the HDD was formatted recently, so the HDD was Empty...

I turned on My PC to insert the setup CD and the PC turned off...
I removed the PCIx16 ATI 256MB Graphics Card and tried again...
i still had the same event
I Removed The HDD connection as well...
I still had the same event

Before i formatted my HDD i had WINXP PRO installed, but i wanted to install it into partitions...

It only started after i made the changes...

DESCRIPTION OF EVENTS WHEN PC TURNED ON-
- When I turn my pc on, the fans,lights,every internal part is working and the monitor gets some signal(as far as i can see)
- I retry turning on the PC,(each uptime shortening) until the 3rd time which when the PC Buzzer makes a 3 beep sound (that sounds like the beeps before the annoyin phone lady says that the number is unavailable)

and then thats as far as i go..

i seem to think that it could be CPU area, because i had'nt applied the Thermal Grease

 

[mclarenvj]

btw i dont even get a post

 

[mclarenvj]

i've read through some other posts of mine...
what is a thermal trip?
cause if it involves instant shutdown then i think that might be my prob?

 

[mclarenvj]

bump!

 

[kev1952]

I would have thought the solution was obvious here - you already know that the CPU is overheating. Until you have thermal paste between the heatsink and CPU then DON'T fiddle with the machine! You run a very high risk of doing permanent damage to the system - a tube of thermal paste is sure a lot cheaper than a new CPU.

 

[mclarenvj]

thats true, i just thought, because it was working well before, so its going to be the thermal trip?

and what do the beeps mean?

 

[kev1952]

Most modern CPUs have a thermal overload switch built into them so that they will shutdown before they get to a critical temp. As for the beeps - they will be either faulty (or loose) RAM chips or the video card is not properly seated (or is no good). But you need to get the heat problem with the CPU fixed before you mess with anything else.

 

[mclarenvj]

okay, so ill have to wait like a few days for my dad to order it off amazon.co.uk

 

[kev1952]

okay, so ill have to wait like a few days for my dad to order it off amazon.co.uk

You don't have a local computer store? Any computer store will be able to supply you with thermal paste - and it costs next to nothing.

 

[mclarenvj]

well the closest one that does supply it is PC world....
and they only do delivery... my dad only trusts amazon with his credit card....
and besides in the thread that i asked about CPU temps running high, the people suggested Arctic Silver 5, and i can only find the good CPU cleaners on amazon.co.uk as well

 

[kev1952]

Artic Silver is good but not the holy grail of pastes. As long as you use thermal paste and apply it correctly then the brand is not going to be a big issue.

 

[mclarenvj]

me and warzard are trying to figure the problem out now

 

[mclarenvj]

actuallly i had 4 beeps from the bios...
which means..

You are getting 4 beeps indicating a timer not operational:
-Check for foreign objects such as screws that may ground the motherboard and make sure that screws that hold the motherboard are not too tight.
-Swap the motherboard.

 

[win2kpro]

The max operating temp for the PD935 is 63.4c. Thermal trip will occur approximately +15c above the max or around 78.4c. Don't continue to operate the machine without TIC (Thermal Interface Compound/Thermal Paste) or TIM (Thermal Interface Material/Thermal Pad) or you will damage the processor.

Here is the manual for your board;

http://download.intel.com/design/motherbd/cl/D7364401US.pdf

See PDF Page 73. 4 alternating beeps high tone/low tone/high tone/low tone indicates a thermal warning.

As kev1952 said you do not have to use AS 5. AS 5 is a good TIC, however we did some tests a couple of years ago with 2 different TIC's and Thermal Pads and did not find a significant difference between the compounds or the thermal pad.

 

[mclarenvj]

thanks, your a life saver!!!!!
the high tone,low tone,high tone,low tone thing is what i hear...
the CPU must warm up bleeding fast as i can only get to the post screen with the blue background, indicating the booting proccess is started...

what is thermal trip?