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Problem: My pc freezes randomly on almost anything in such an extend that i have to use the reset button to boot up again
sometimes only once and somtimes 2-12 times a session (one evening) its driving me out of my mind !!
It always hangs on defragmentation or virusscans (norton)...
As far as i can remember this started after an update from windows...but when i want to remove sp1 i get a message that most of my programs might not function anymore

Things i have done: Bios flash,downloaded new drivers for my video,memtest (no result on basic testing),downloaded a special scanprogram of my hd manufact and resolved one error,downloaded spybot s&d and removed spyware,downloaded adaware 6 and removed everything i found out of the ordinary , ran hijackthis and removed everything out of the ordinary, ran norton system utils and repaired registery,replaced my cooling system/fan,cleaned out my casing (lot of dust there)...checked is my memory/cards/cables where seated proparly, put in an extra fan in my casing...... ia am going crazy!! nothing has helped :-(

ps also checked my temp of cpu = between 30 and 38 C

Q : what else can i do to find out what the problem is ??
made a report of my specs with aida32 :--------[ AIDA32 (c) 1995-2003 Tamas Miklos ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Version AIDA32 v3.75
Author [email protected]
Homepage http://www.aida32.hu
Report Type Report Wizard
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
Date 2003-09-09
Time 22:01


--------[ Summary ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack None
Internet Explorer 6.0.2600.0000 (IE 6.0 - Windows XP)
DirectX 4.08.01.0810 (DirectX 8.1)
Motherboard:
CPU Type AMD Duron, 700 MHz (3.5 x 200)
Motherboard Name Matsonic MS 8117C (1 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 AMR, 3 DIMM, Audio)
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8363 Apollo KT133
System Memory 512 MB (SDRAM)
BIOS Type Award Modular (03/14/01)
Communication Port Communicatiepoort (COM1)
Communication Port Communicatiepoort (COM2)
Communication Port ECP-printerpoort (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter 3D Prophet NVidia Series (32 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter VIA AC'97 Audio Controller [H]

Storage:
Floppy Drive Diskettestation
Disk Drive Maxtor 33073H3 (30 GB, 5400 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
Optical Drive E-IDE CD-ROM 52X/AKH (52x CD-ROM)
Optical Drive PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W2410A (24x/10x/40x CD-RW)

Partitions:
C: (NTFS) 29298 MB (20268 MB free)
 

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Btw this is my hijacktis report Logfile of HijackThis v1.97.2
Scan saved at 22:39:53, on 9-9-2003
Platform: Windows XP (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 (6.00.2600.0000)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\EPSON\EBAPI\SAgent2.exe
C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton Utilities\NPROTECT.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\SPEEDD~1\nopdb.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\PopUp Killer\PopUpKiller.EXE
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\RUNDLL32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\RUNDLL32.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
C:\Documents and Settings\Glenn\Local Settings\Temp\Tijdelijke map 3 voor hijackthis.zip\HijackThis.exe
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.startpagina.nl/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = +s
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch = about:blank
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings,ProxyServer = proxy.arnhem.chello.nl:8080
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName = Koppelingen
O1 - Hosts: 66.159.20.51 astalavista.box.sk
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.ocx
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: ineb Helper - {753AA023-02D1-447D-8B55-53A91A5ABF18} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {7b2d8034-3a57-4399-88e8-ca7a9dc35247} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: NAV Helper - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
O3 - Toolbar: (no name) - {0AAF602E-72A1-45FE-BAB1-06971E07EAA2} - (no file)
O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PopUpKiller] C:\Program Files\PopUp Killer\PopUpKiller.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccRegVfy] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccRegVfy.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe -osboot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - Startup: Norton Disk Doctor.LNK = C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton Utilities\NDD32.EXE
O4 - Global Startup: Norton System Doctor.LNK = C:\Program Files\Norton SystemWorks\Norton Utilities\SYSDOC32.EXE
O9 - Extra button: Messenger (HKLM)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger (HKLM)
O12 - Plugin for .swf: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\PLUGINS\npqtplugin8.dll
O16 - DPF: ConferenceRoom Java Client - http://chat.privatefeeds.com:8000/java/cr.cab
O16 - DPF: {02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B} - http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab
O16 - DPF: {166B1BCA-3F9C-11CF-8075-444553540000} (Shockwave ActiveX Control) - http://active.macromedia.com/director/cabs/sw.cab
O16 - DPF: {41F17733-B041-4099-A042-B518BB6A408C} - http://a1540.g.akamai.net/7/1540/52...pple.com/bonnie/us/win/QuickTimeInstaller.exe
O16 - DPF: {841A9192-5690-11D4-A258-0040954A01BE} (DialXSCtl Object) - http://dialxs.nl/install/dialxs.ocx
O16 - DPF: {8E0D4DE5-3180-4024-A327-4DFAD1796A8D} (MessengerStatsClient Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/MessengerStatsClient.cab
O16 - DPF: {9F1C11AA-197B-4942-BA54-47A8489BB47F} (Update Class) - http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/CAB/x86/unicode/iuctl.CAB?37617.4485763889
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab
O16 - DPF: {F58E1CEF-A068-4C15-BA5E-587CAF3EE8C6} (MSN Chat Control 4.5) - http://fdl.msn.com/public/chat/msnchat45.cab
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{C23B97F6-A909-41A3-8B31-1CC8050655C0}: NameServer = 212.142.28.66,212.142.28.67
O19 - User stylesheet: C:\WINDOWS\Web\oslogo.bmp
 

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Forgot to mention something else that was not listed in aida32 report i have 2 sdram modules pc 133 256 MB
 

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k i found out some new things.....my system also always hangs when i am not working on it at all ( so leave it alone for a while) and doesn't hang on defragmentaion in windows save mode.....so it must be a software problem?

BTW THOUGH I HAVEN"T HAD ANY REPLY YET...I THINK U GUYS ARE GREAT IN HELPING (OR TRYING TO) ANYBODY THAT HAS A PROBLEM :)) my at most respect for that
 
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Hey, I had a similar prob with my old comp... so I bought a new one :cool: lol

Have you tried a complete format? How old is your computer, mainly the processor, RAM, and video card? Have you run benchmarks on your hardware lately to test for stability?
 
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I have the same problem with mine it locks up just setting there, does it once or twice a day. My xp system restore never did work so i install gobackl, that way when i update from windows i do them one at a time so if they cause ant lockups i just revert my drive to the day before to get rid of them. Other than that i never could figure out why mine locks up everyday, been doing it for almost 6 months now.
 

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My computer is about 3 years old and i have run som benchmark/burn in tests .....and its the same as any other program sometimes it hangs somtimes its fine
and as for the complete format , i haven't done that yet...i see it as a last resort and if my system functions after that i still would'n know what was wrong with it lol anyways some other things i have tryed in the mean time.......defragmentation succeeded in windows safe mode and als my virusscan did (no problems there)

but as soon as i boot up the normal way ......the problem still remains :-((

I read in another thread that if there are no problems in windows safe mode ..the problem must be software related rather than hardware rel ??
 

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BTW my cd of win xp pro is severely damaged and i bought it from a no longer existing company so... is there any other way to reinstall win xp??
 
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Run Hijack This again and put a check by these. Close all browser windows and "Fix checked"

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.startpagina.nl/

R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = +s

R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch = about :blank

R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName = Koppelingen

O1 - Hosts: 66.159.20.51 astalavista.box.sk

O2 - BHO: ineb Helper - {753AA023-02D1-447D-8B55-53A91A5ABF18} - (no file)

O2 - BHO: (no name) - {7b2d8034-3a57-4399-88e8-ca7a9dc35247} - (no file)

O3 - Toolbar: (no name) - {0AAF602E-72A1-45FE-BAB1-06971E07EAA2} - (no file)

O16 - DPF: ConferenceRoom Java Client - http://chat.privatefeeds.com:8000/java/cr.cab

O16 - DPF: {41F17733-B041-4099-A042-B518BB6A408C} - http://a1540.g.akamai.net/7/1540/52...meInstaller.exe

O16 - DPF: {841A9192-5690-11D4-A258-0040954A01BE} (DialXSCtl Object) - http://dialxs.nl/install/dialxs.ocx

O19 - User stylesheet: C:\WINDOWS\Web\oslogo.bmp

Reboot to safe mode and delete:

The C:\WINDOWS\Web\oslogo.bmp file.

Boot back to normal.
Click on the link below and it will download CWShredder. Close all browser windows. UnZip it and click on the cwshredder.exe and let it do it's thing.

http://www.spychecker.com/download/download_cwshredder.html

When it is finished restart your computer.

These are the only things I see. I'm not so sure that the symptoms that you describe are not hardware related. Do the above suggestions and then post back and let us know how it's going.
 

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OK..flrman1 and it...did'nt help at all hung right after i did all you said and after a reboot from live updating my virus info from norton so what is the next logical step??
 

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K new info.. when i go to start/configuration/software it displays "windows xp hotfix (sp1) [see Q311967 for information]" for about 8-10 times ?????
 

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some more i looked up ...10-9-2003 0:35 Application Error Vastgelopen toepassing: sdntc.exe, versie: 7.0.0.24, vastgelopen module: sdntc.exe, versie: 7.0.0.24, vastgelopen op: 0x0000835a.

3-8-2003 20:06 Application Hang Vastgelopen toepassing: PopUpKiller.EXE, versie: 1.9.0.3, vastgelopen module: hungapp, versie: 0.0.0.0, vastgelopen op: 0x00000000.

30-6-2003 19:49 Application Error Vastgelopen toepassing: excel.exe, versie: 9.0.0.2719, vastgelopen module: excel.exe, versie: 9.0.0.2719, vastgelopen op: 0x00060a9f.

5-9-2003 15:21 Application Error Vastgelopen toepassing: winword.exe, versie: 9.0.0.2717, vastgelopen module: winword.exe, versie: 9.0.0.2717, vastgelopen op: 0x000ac18a.

5-9-2003 22:31 Application Hang Vastgelopen toepassing: aida32.bin, versie: 3.7.0.0, vastgelopen module: hungapp, versie: 0.0.0.0, vastgelopen op: 0x00000000.

5-9-2003 23:21 Application Hang Vastgelopen toepassing: SYSDOC32.EXE, versie: 16.0.0.22, vastgelopen module: hungapp, versie: 0.0.0.0, vastgelopen op: 0x00000000.

5-9-2003 23:21 Application Hang Vastgelopen toepassing: SYSDOC32.EXE, versie: 16.0.0.22, vastgelopen module: hungapp, versie: 0.0.0.0, vastgelopen op: 0x00000000.

7-7-2003 13:50 Application Hang Vastgelopen toepassing: IEXPLORE.EXE, versie: 6.0.2600.0, vastgelopen module: hungapp, versie: 0.0.0.0, vastgelopen op: 0x00000000.

8-9-2003 12:42 Application Error Vastgelopen toepassing: rundll32.exe, versie: 5.1.2600.0, vastgelopen module: wininet.dll, versie: 6.0.2718.400, vastgelopen op: 0x0001b258.

8-9-2003 21:33 Application Hang Vastgelopen toepassing: sandra.exe, versie: 9.73.2003.7, vastgelopen module: hungapp, versie: 0.0.0.0, vastgelopen op: 0x00000000.

8-9-2003 22:48 Application Hang Vastgelopen toepassing: FreeRAM XP Pro 1.40.exe, versie: 1.4.0.0, vastgelopen module: hungapp, versie: 0.0.0.0, vastgelopen op: 0x00000000.

8-9-2003 22:48 Application Hang Vastgelopen toepassing: FreeRAM XP Pro 1.40.exe, versie: 1.4.0.0, vastgelopen module: hungapp, versie: 0.0.0.0, vastgelopen op: 0x00000000.

9-9-2003 22:23 MsiInstaller De detectie van product {00000413-78E1-11D2-B60F-006097C998E7}, functie ProofingToolsFiles_ENG is mislukt tijdens het aanvragen van onderdeel {D64CB221-8D1F-11D1-A806-00AA00479089}

 
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As I said before I suspect you have a hardware problem ie... Bad RAM or overheating.
As you said your CPU temp was around 38C the first place to start would be with the RAM.

Since you have two sticks of RAM try removing one and run the machine with just the one. If the problem persists switch them.

Keep us posted
 
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Be sure to keep yourself grouned by placing one hand on the metal part of your case to discharge any static while removing the RAM stick.
 
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