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Solving the Riddle

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by medallion, Sep 14, 2003.

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  1. medallion

    medallion Thread Starter

    Jun 28, 2001
    In my never ending quest to comprehend most/all hardware
    problems, I pulled the sound card and modem and holy bologna,
    the BSOD at shutdown went away. Very interesting.
    So lets now readd sound card and see what happens, but sound
    card and modem to come are ' out of alignment ', mobo not
    right, neither card has been ' fully in place ' for how long?
    A year maybe? Could this be the cause for BSOD at shutdown?
    Because when stuck sound card back in, the BSOD came back.
    Questions are many and experiments continue, but I would like to know if 1) ? bios may be problem, i.e. does the bios keep
    past driver info, like sound card from last year, an isa stored?
    Does it store all driver info? Is the only way to erase that
    info A FLASH? Can one flash/reprogramm in midformat ?

    Secondly, does moving modem to sound card psi slot
    do anything substantial? Sound card to modem slot
    or to one unsued?

    Mobo align problem solved and all cards are as they
    should be. Will this make any difference???
    Other than BSOD at shutdown ( unless I dial up, 56k
    then I NEVER get BSOD ), this pc is a honey. No quirks.
    98se with shutdown patch as of friday. Gigabyte 5ax board.
    I don't mind reformatting again ( well maybe ), but I really
    want to get hardware/bios issues, if any, resolved first.

    Any suggestions would be of great help..
    - M
  2. Triple6

    Triple6 Moderator

    Dec 26, 2002
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    Well, I don't understand half of your questions and statements - you may want to consider using some proper grammar- but since no else has responsed - here it goes.

    Shutdown problems are quite common with Windows 98, especially with older motherboards/systems.

    Here's a few quick/common causes:
    1). A shutdown sound - disable it in Control Panel/Sounds
    2). An Antivirus scan set to scan floppies at shutdown - disable this small feature in you're antivirus program.
    3). A virus or Spyware/adware - use an online virus scan and Adaware and Spybot to remove any/all problems they find.
    4). Windows 98 problems - there are at least 2 patches for 98 which you can get by running Windows Update. The is also a WDM sound patch as well. I would recommend that you have all critical and most program patches installed.
    5). A bios/IRQ/Hardware problem - you can update the BIOS, turning on or off ACPI in the BIOS, changing the slots the soundcard and modem are installed in, and update all drivers. This includes motherboard chipset/ide drivers, soundcard drivers, modem drivers, video drivers,etc.
    6). Something else - like a program running in the background, corrupt files, faulty or incompatible parts.

    The BIOS is its own very basic drivers in a sense, but it has nothing to do with the drivers loaded in Windows - it does not store any drivers you install in Windows.
  3. zeddy


    May 3, 2003
    I didn't answer because it hurt my head to try and understand or find what was the question ?

    Win98 and ME do often need tweaking of the IRQs that devices are on in order for them to work properly. The fact that you tool out two cards and the problem disappeared seems to suggest a hardware conflict.
  4. medallion

    medallion Thread Starter

    Jun 28, 2001
    Thanks for the info and for the encouragement to improve
    both my grammar and manner of questioning. I've indentified
    sound card as problem and as of nineoclock central, I've somehow, by mere wicked fate or fortuitious happenstance,
    seemed to solve the alleged and now 2 year long problem.
    ( used to hang on loading and shutdown with crystal ISA sound
    card). Windows would not find 2 other sound cards, so I went back to yamaha. Weird. Either way, with that card in different
    pci slot ( again, does it matter ? ), bluescreen has gone away for now at least. Success??

    Why is audio on IRQ 10 with video? Is this okay or normal?
    IRQ 09 doesn't even show. This is okay? Its no problem
    for video and audio to share IRQ 10 ??

    Next and what may be the Key to all this is ' Wave Device
    for Voice Modem '. This mysterious file is now accompanied
    by a yellow exclaim mark, which solves part of the riddle,
    that being the hitherto unknown correlation between BSOD,
    sound card and why after dialing up, I would never get BSOD.
    Logic, sound logic, or my own logic ??

    Wave device for voice modem is a modem file, right ??
    Its on the modem cd, right?
    I don't think I want to activate it ..........
    For some reason, it was the problem.

    Missing needed parts between ears,
    - M
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