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some systems in workgroup can access while others cannot

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  1. horladoqun

    horladoqun Thread Starter

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    hi, i have eight systems in my workgroup five of the systems work pretty fine (i.e. can access each other ) but three of the systems has been giving access denied and network path not found inspite that they are within thesame same workgroup.
    stuffs i have done:

    • disabled firewall
    • ping by ip : responded
    • ping by name : responded
    • isolated the systems, connected using cross over cable and i still get this path not found thing.
    two of the problematic systems has norton antivirus 2010 running on them, though i have seen some post that talks about norton being notorious, i can't seem to find away around it.

    mind buggling is that the third system does not have any antivirus runnng on it and it keeps telling me path not found/access denied or prompts a dialog box for password.

    if i try \\system6 , \\system7on any of my system, i'm being prompted for password. the dialog box has the username field grayed out thus making it unclickable (access denied: path not found or prmpt for logging crdential comes up at will). but the systems in them does not have any logging credential.

    this problem has become a pain in the neck to me as we cannot share files and it appears this systems are of great importance within my office.

    some pls help:mad::confused:
     
  2. TerryNet

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    I have not known Norton Anti-virus to cause problems like this.

    If all your computers are Vista Basic (the only thing mentioned in your computer specs) part of your problem may be that it is not designed for that many simultaneous accesses.

    I don't know anything about peculiarities or extra restrictions in Vista Basic, but Vista in general will not file share unless at least one user account is password protected. And, of course, any non-Windows firewall must be configured for the desired access; sometimes "disable" or "turn off" will suffice, but don't count on it.
     
  3. digitalsatori

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    Just to confirm what TerryNet said, Vista Basic is limited to 5 simultaneous connections, all other versions are 10.
     
  4. horladoqun

    horladoqun Thread Starter

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    thanks terrynet for quick response, none the system has XP pro running them. pls can u help me break the reason one of the system (with only ms office) cannot be accessed? the path not found/access denied thing is just unique to three systems. these 3 systems can access other systems but no system can access them and they cannot access themselves even when i isolated themusing crossover cable. i assigned IP and placed them on same workgroup (2 systems a time). tis really a thorn in my flesh. will be glad to hear from you. thanks in anticipation
     
  5. horladoqun

    horladoqun Thread Starter

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    sorry for the mix up i mean all the system has windows XP pro running on them
     
  6. TerryNet

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    Top suspect is a non-Windows firewall or security suite that is misconfigured, or corrupted, or was uninstalled but didn't go away cleanly. What one do, or did, you have on the problem machines?

    With a working and a non-working PC isolated except for a cross-over cable between them please show for both ...

    Start, Run, CMD, OK to open a command prompt:
    (For Vista or 7 type CMD in the Search box after Start)

    Type the following commands:

    nbtstat -n

    IPCONFIG /ALL

    [Note that there is no space between the slash and ALL.]

    Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter.
    Paste the results in a message here.

    If necessary use a text file and removable media to copy the results to a computer with internet access.
     
  7. horladoqun

    horladoqun Thread Starter

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    thanks terrynet, the systems thta are having these problem could actually browse the internet. please fid below the result i got after running nbtstat -n and ipconfig /all

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& SYSTEM NAMED GIS &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nbtstat -n

    Local Area Connection:
    Node IpAddress: [192.168.0.194] Scope Id: []

    NetBIOS Local Name Table

    Name Type Status
    ---------------------------------------------
    GIS1 <00> UNIQUE Registered
    GIS <00> GROUP Registered
    GIS1 <20> UNIQUE Registered
    GIS <1E> GROUP Registered

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : gis1
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82566DM Gigabit Network Con
    nection
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 18-A9-05-BA-1B-1A
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.194
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:24:21 PM
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:24:21 PM

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& SYSTEM NAMED IT &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Mark>nbtstat -n

    Local Area Connection:
    Node IpAddress: [192.168.0.199] Scope Id: []

    NetBIOS Local Name Table

    Name Type Status
    ---------------------------------------------
    IT <00> UNIQUE Registered
    GIS <00> GROUP Registered
    IT <20> UNIQUE Registered

    C:\Documents and Settings\Mark>ipconfig /all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : it
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont
    roller
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-FE-15-D1-A9
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.199
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:35:01 PM
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:35:01 PM

    C:\Documents and Settings\Mark>

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& SYSTEM NAMED HSE &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nbtstat -n

    Local Area Connection:
    Node IpAddress: [192.168.0.196] Scope Id: []

    NetBIOS Local Name Table

    Name Type Status
    ---------------------------------------------
    HSE <00> UNIQUE Registered
    HSE <20> UNIQUE Registered
    GIS <00> GROUP Registered
    GIS <1E> GROUP Registered

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : hse
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82566DM Gigabit Network Con
    nection
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-26-55-3C-EA-BE
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.196
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:22:57 AM
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:22:57 AM

    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

    tnx for your help
     
  8. horladoqun

    horladoqun Thread Starter

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    hey terry, how was your weekend? my workgroup problem is still there. have you seen the result i got on running nbtstat -n and ipconfig /all on the system with the isues? please i need you to help me. if you are of office i won't you connect to another person that may be of help. thanks for your anticipated response. horladoqun
     
  9. JohnWill

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    Those were all XP systems, which I thought said were working normally. How about the same tests on the failing systems?

    Can you ping both ways from a failing system to a working one by computer name?
     
  10. horladoqun

    horladoqun Thread Starter

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    Hi JohnWill, thanks for your quick response, the result above were from the problematic systems. infact the system named "gis1" has only ms office installed no other application runs on it while "hse" and "it" has norton antivirus 2010 as the antivirus application. these three (gis1, it, and hse) systems can ping/access other system within the workgroup but no system can access them though they respond to ping either by name or ip. am confused
     
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