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1) In previous versions of windows, each window including IE window, had a 'Refresh' icon. Windows8 does not have it. Is there a way to have it show up?

2) When doing a search for files, search results show files which when clicked, windows reports as not existing. This problem was there in Vista Home edition as well. Sometimes, when one deletes a file (I usually delete *.log and *.tmp daily), it gets deleted but it does not get removed from the list). Is there a way to fix this problem? Disk cleanup, does not delete most of the *.tmp and *.log files

3) For earlier versions of windows, a utilility 'move on reboot' deleted files, which were open in a program, on reboot. 'Delete on reboot' appeared on the rt. click menu. (again I used it only for log and tmp files) Is such a utility available for windows 8? The older utility does not work with windows 8.

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Which version of Windows 8 are you using, the standard PC, or the RT for tablets?
 

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1) In previous versions of windows, each window including IE window, had a 'Refresh' icon. Windows8 does not have it. Is there a way to have it show up?Preet
Press F5 or use the refresh/reload button which is present in both the desktop and Modern versions of IE - it's the arrow symbol that goes in a circle.

2) When doing a search for files, search results show files which when clicked, windows reports as not existing. This problem was there in Vista Home edition as well. Sometimes, when one deletes a file (I usually delete *.log and *.tmp daily), it gets deleted but it does not get removed from the list). Is there a way to fix this problem? Disk cleanup, does not delete most of the *.tmp and *.log filesPreet
I never do this so I've never had this problem. There's really no need or benefit to delete these files daily.

3) For earlier versions of windows, a utilility 'move on reboot' deleted files, which were open in a program, on reboot. 'Delete on reboot' appeared on the rt. click menu. (again I used it only for log and tmp files) Is such a utility available for windows 8? The older utility does not work with windows 8.
Never existed, you had to either install a third party program to add this or edit the registry to create a custom entry for this. You'd have to do the same in Windows 8.
 

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Press F5 or use the refresh/reload button which is present in both the desktop and Modern versions of IE - it's the arrow symbol that goes in a circle.

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I still cannot locate the refresh/reload button. It is not listed in 'availavble buttons' in the view menu, but F5 is there for refreshing.

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I never do this so I've never had this problem. There's really no need or benefit to delete these files daily.



Never existed, you had to either install a third party program to add this or edit the registry to create a custom entry for this. You'd have to do the same in Windows 8.
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It was a third party program, but it does not work in windows 8. I have installed it.
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There's several programs that can delete files on boot, try Move on Boot: http://emcosoftware.com/move-on-boot
Thanks Triple6. I have installed Gipo moveon Boot, and windows 8 applied compatibility settings, but it does not appear on the right click menu, as it did in Vista. Running the program by double clicking on it, it asks for file names that need to be deleted. I do not want spend time doing that. So it is unusable for my purposes.

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Move on Boot supports drag and drop functionality, just drag the file into it to delete it. Also, why did install it in Compatibility mode? The system requirements say it supports Windows 8. Why do you constantly need to delete locked files anyway?
 

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Referring to your post 1 and my colleagues post 5
2) When doing a search for files, search results show files which when clicked, windows reports as not existing. This problem was there in Vista Home edition as well. Sometimes, when one deletes a file (I usually delete *.log and *.tmp daily), it gets deleted but it does not get removed from the list). Is there a way to fix this problem? Disk cleanup, does not delete most of the *.tmp and *.log filesPreet

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I never do this so I've never had this problem. There's really no need or benefit to delete these files daily.
I entirely agree and I would take it a stage further - if you persist on Windows 8 you will create all manner of problems, not least of which I think will be a noticeable slowing down of some functions, as diskcleanup on 8 decides for you which tmp files may be safely deleted

Also if by log files you include the event viewer log files - those can provide a valuable insight into what is amiss and deleting those - is not a good idea

IMHO Windows 8 from what I have seen manages its file systems very well and I believe you are attempting to manage it, as one may have found necessary on XP. My advice is as per that of my colleague - leave it alone with the exception of the normal maintenance for diskcleanup and browser history etc

To try and convince you of what I have said a search in 8 for xml the format in which many logs are stored results in 182 entries on my Windows 8
If you delete any of these using some procedure you WILL have problems
I have attached a screenshot of just a few XML entries
 

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Move on Boot supports drag and drop functionality, just drag the file into it to delete it. Also, why did install it in Compatibility mode? The system requirements say it supports Windows 8. Why do you constantly need to delete locked files anyway?
Thanks Triple6. I was referring to 'Gipo moveon boot'. It did not work, and 'windows' when asked to trouble shoot, suggested compatibility mode, but it still did not work. I then uninstalled it.

After reading your suggestion, I installed 'Emco moveOn Boot'. Dragging (with rt or left mouse buotton) fikles to it does not work. I tried C: *.ext, but the program only looked in c:\, and did not find the files.

Is there a mask that would indicate all folders and subfolders on c:?

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Unlocker works with Windows 8 and has a right click menu option, that might be easier for you to use: http://www.emptyloop.com/unlocker/#download
Just be sure when downloading it you download Unlocker and not the junkware they use to pay the bills on the site and when installing to uncheck the toolbar option.
 

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Unlocker works with Windows 8 and has a right click menu option, that might be easier for you to use: http://www.emptyloop.com/unlocker/#download
Just be sure when downloading it you download Unlocker and not the junkware they use to pay the bills on the site and when installing to uncheck the toolbar option.
Thanks triple6. I downloaded the 'unlocker' (I used to have it on my old windows vista laptop, but had forgotten its url).
and installed it. It is now in the 'rt.click' menu. From my previous experience with it, some times file/files cannot be unlocked. Hence the need for 'moveon boot'.

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Referring to your post 1 and my colleagues post 5


I entirely agree and I would take it a stage further - if you persist on Windows 8 you will create all manner of problems, not least of which I think will be a noticeable slowing down of some functions, as diskcleanup on 8 decides for you which tmp files may be safely deleted

Also if by log files you include the event viewer log files - those can provide a valuable insight into what is amiss and deleting those - is not a good idea

IMHO Windows 8 from what I have seen manages its file systems very well and I believe you are attempting to manage it, as one may have found necessary on XP. My advice is as per that of my colleague - leave it alone with the exception of the normal maintenance for diskcleanup and browser history etc

To try and convince you of what I have said a search in 8 for xml the format in which many logs are stored results in 182 entries on my Windows 8
If you delete any of these using some procedure you WILL have problems
I have attached a screenshot of just a few XML entries
Thanks for your advice. I shall follow it, and only use 'disk cleanup' from now on.

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Unlocker can delete files on boot too, it asks when it can't delete it normally.
 
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