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My parents have recently been getting a deluge of porn spam on the email account that is tied to their ISP account, the account is with one of the bigest uk ISPs (btopenworld) and has also been listed on ebay also i think they clicked a few unsubscribe links before they realised that makes things 10x worse.

Bto offer an email filter and this seems to be getting rid of a lot of it (276 messages so far this month in the spam folder) but 2 or 3 mails are getting through each day. Some with pretty offensive photos in them.

I've said up some crude filters in oe that are taking a futher couple of messages a day out, but there's still the odd one slipping through.

So my question is is there any software around for free or cheap that will help stop them having to see those last few spams? and if not is there a way to at least stop OE loading images in HTML mails? I know these are used for tracking too so are probably compounding the problem. I don't think that it's possible for them to change the email account as it's the one that identifies the account with the ISP and is used for billing and service info so can't just be ignored.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated
 
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What's OE? If there were a software that actually stopped spam it wouldn't be cheap.....
 
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Sorry, I'm a retard for the OE question. I've been in Lotus Notes hell for the past 5 years and they don't let me out of my cage much....
 
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Hey atconc,

In my opinion the best way to go is MailWasher. Basically the MailWasher program sits in between the ISP's server and the mail program (Outlook Express). Then when the MailWasher program is opened the person opening the program can see what mail is on the server and decide whether or not they want to download it to the mail program or just delete it from the server.

Blacklist and strong filters can be set up so that MailWasher automatically tags certain mail for deletion according to criteria that the user has set up. There is a friends list so that mail the person using the program wants to receive will never be tagged for deletion.

At this web site is the free version. The free version only allows one account to be checked.

http://www.mailwasher.net/


Time should be given for getting used to MailWasher before setting up very strong filters, but with this program there is really no reason to receive another piece of spam, vulgar, rotten, dirty e-mail again into your e-mail program.

Hey atconc, there is a bounce feature to this program but it really isn't necessary to use.

A MailWasher discussion group can be found here:

http://www.computercops.biz/forums.html

And a web site with some preconfigured filter/blacklist for MailWasher can be found here (use care with this web page and get a feel for how MailWasher works before using the recommendations on this page, if it is decided to use the recommendations, and read the whole web page, very important).

http://www.w5hq.com/MailWasher/MailWasherFilters.txt


Really atconc, this is the only freeware application that I know that will do the job, but like I said, the freeware version only allows one account to be checked.

If it can be done the Pro version is worth consideration and it allows unlimited accounts to be checked. There is a comparison chart of the Free and Pro version on the MailWasher web page listed above.

Do a search on Google for MailWasher and see what others have to say about the application.
 
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Originally posted by atconc:
and if not is there a way to at least stop OE loading images in HTML mails?
In Outlook Express go to "TOOLS>OPTIONS>READ" and put a check in the box that states "Read all Messages as plain text".

While there, check the "Security" tab and under "Virus Protection" make sure "Restricted Sites Zone" is selected.
 

atconc

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I'm giving mailwasher a try now :) I'm on broadband so I'm planning on leaving it running in the background for a while, is there anyway to make it automatically process mail that it identifies as spam without me having to press the "process now" button?
 
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Originally posted by atconc:
...is there anyway to make it automatically process mail that it identifies as spam without me having to press the "process now" button?
All of the below has to do with the Pro version, it has been a while since I used the free versions so I really do not remember if the free versions have all of the below options.

atconc,
I'm in no way a MailWasher expert as such but since you have MailWasher running automatically I think to do what you want you would need to:

1) Put a check in the box "Perform default mail check every X minutes" accessed from "Tools>Options>General".

A variation of step 1 is to put a check mark in "Perform default mail check on startup" if operating manually.

2) Put a check in the box "Auto delete blacklisted messages" located under "Blacklist>Options" accessed from "View>Filter Sidebar".

(The above will only auto delete mail from actual addresses that are currently in the Blacklist list. If a message is tagged to be blacklisted by MailWasher, but the address it is from is not in the blacklist list yet, then that message will not be deleted automatically.)


A note: MailWasher will not currently auto delete messages marked as spam as a result of filter list rules. I read on the MailWasher discussion group that this is supposed to be added in coming Pro versions and I look forward to it being added. Because as it is now MailWasher will tag a message to be blacklisted as a result of my filter rules but then I have to add that address to my blacklist list before MailWasher will auto delete the message. Better to have the auto delete option for filter rules. Some spammers will only use a fake address once from my understanding. So that blacklist list could get large fast, but there is an option to delete unused blacklisted addresses after a certain number of days so that will maintain a reasonable blacklist.

Important: atconc, I told you in an earlier post that MailWasher's free version had a limitation of only checking one account. I only found out last night from a post by davey7549 in this thread that MailWasher Version 1.33 does not have this limitation. If you are interested Ver. 1.33 can be gotten at this web site:

http://www.kgtu.runnet.ru/WD/Advices/MailWasher.htm


Not so important: I personally do not have MailWasher running automatically. For some reason on my computer earlier versions of the program would cause conflicts with my OS, and the only way I could get rid of the conflict was to disable running in the background and all auto checking of mail instances in MailWasher.

Of no importance at all: If anyone is interested in the Pro version of MailWasher it can be gotten here:

http://www.firetrust.com/index.php
 
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Originally posted by atconc:
I'm giving mailwasher a try now :) I'm on broadband so I'm planning on leaving it running in the background for a while, is there anyway to make it automatically process mail that it identifies as spam without me having to press the "process now" button?
Atconc,
I hope things are going o.k. with you. I reflected on your question (yea, way too late) and I failed to consider things from your parents point of view, i.e. MailWasher does require considerable user input on an on going basis and maybe your parents do not want to tinker around with a program just to remove some offensive pictures from their sight.

If the above is the case I did not intend to lead you to a wrong solution for the offensive e-mail your parents are receiving.
 
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I just use rules, works fine when its finetuned a bit, create a rule for a word or a few words, that marks it as read and deletes it
make as much rules as you like
 

atconc

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alaska - thank you for all your thoughtful help. I've been running mailwasher on my computer for the past few days and using it to bounce all the spam that's coming in and it seems to be slowing the flow of spam quite nicely.

Mad-martin - thanks I have some rules set up already and will keep adding to them. I realised the other day that my parents only really use the account for service announcements from the isp so i can use some pretty sevre filtering :)
 
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