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Still safe, still no viruses on XP (with no updates) - am I just lucky?

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Bobsyauncle, Dec 19, 2017.

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  1. Bobsyauncle

    Bobsyauncle Thread Starter

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    Hi all

    I am still currently on XP. I hate change! But I'm having problems with my OS and I think rather than re-install XP, it's finally time for me to jump to 7/10. Apart from joining the modern era, I also want to make use of more than 4GB RAM.... Anyhow, putting all that aside for the moment...

    Up until now I have never had any viruses or internet related problems that I'm aware of with my PC. I run Panda AV Free, but I do not have any software firewall installed. Even when XP WAS still supported, I NEVER ran any of the MS updates, so I must be WELL out of date as I built my PC in 2008! I am on SP3. I use Chrome as my browser, and I use the internet a lot.

    So - have I just been lucky or is there more to it? From what I've read, the fact that I use XP alone should have me riddled with viruses, etc. Add to this that I've not run updates since 2008... and... well... So I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts.

    Many thanks

    Max
     
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  3. SpywareDr

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    First thought is you might not anything that would be considered valuable to hackers. ;)
     
  4. cornemuse

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    I too still run XP. My last virus was on a W-98 machine. I use 360 Total Security. <- it is unobtrusive. Unlike most of the rest, , , , I dont go to 'crazy' places, I use Ubuntu for that!
    I've not fretted updates, tho 360 TotSec installed after a new XP install, did a good job of catching up with all available updates.

    They, "They", are not letting XP die, they are systematicaly killing it, its a shame, , , , ,

    -c-
     
  5. kenbok51

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    If by chance you are running Windows XP Professional there is a way to reinstall the operating system leaving the data and programs intact. Those that came up with the method do recommend backing up your C drive before attempting the fix though. Basically what you do is boot your install disk and follow along like you were going to to do a complete install and skip the first mention of repair (recovery console) after a few windows it will scan again and tell you you already have an OS and ask if you want to repair it. That's the nondestructive reinstall that installs all your system files form the disk. Afterwords if your disk does not have SP3 you will have to run that as well.
    Since all system files are re-written from disk any critical files or SP files not on the disk will have to be updated but since you say you have not been updating anyway it shouldn't be a problem just go with SP3. here is a link to actual instructions and tip you might want to few if you decide to try it.
    https://www.winhelp.us/non-destructive-reinstall-of-windows-xp.html
    or
    http://microsoftgeek.com/?p=1442
     
  6. Johnny-be-Good

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    IMO....lotsa luck

    The general history of Windows seems littered with malware ;)
     
  7. TerryNet

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    If you have the Windows XP firewall (or another firewall, or use a router) turned on almost all direct attacks will be stopped.

    The way most viruses and spyware infect a computer are by computer user invitation (sure, I'll click on this link in email from an unknown sender) or recklessness (visiting 'shady' web sites). If you don't participate in those activities you will have few, if any, malware problems.
     
  8. snuffleufflegus

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    I agree with TerryNet.Depends what sites you get into..etc.
    I tend to stick to the same sites daily and rarely wander.I dont click any of those ads,or random links.
    I haven't had a virus in the past 6 years.I use Malwarebytes (manual scan) and ADW Cleaner.
    I run them once a week just to be on the safe side.I never use an antivirus.(Not recommended).
     
  9. Cookiegal

    Cookiegal Administrator Malware Specialist Coordinator

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    I think this statement is key. I'm sure many have some sort of malware that they are not aware of.
     
  10. Johnny-be-Good

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    Indeed.
    How would anyone know if the tools for security are outdated?

    Until it's too late?

    I'd also like to point out that in the costs of being connected to the Internet, it's usually the Internet connection that eats away your savings the fastest.
    The computer is often the lesser expense.
     
  11. 737Simpilot

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    I have a netbook running XP that's on 24/7 as a FTP server, a team speak server and it's connected to the phone running PhoneTray. I run an older version of Immunet. No hacks or any of that crap. It's all on how you use it. This "hack" crap is just a scare tactic to get you to the latest and greatest OS. Sure, there's vulnerabilities, but it's all on how you use it, type of router, etc.

    I didn't want to update at all, but finally went with Windows 7. 8 sucks so I want go there and 10 can suck it. Talk about being "hacked," the damn OS contains a keylogger among other crap that calls home to Redmond. Forgetaboutit. Within about 10 years when I finally update my PC and have to go to 10, I'll use PFsense to block all of M$'s ASNs. Pretty sad you have to run things like Shutup 10 just to regain control of your own PC.

    Updates? What's a flipping update. I haven't used those in years. No viruses or anything. I use Sandboxie for my browser and I use common sense browsing the Internet. Last time I had a virus was when I ran Win 98se. AVG back then didn't even stop it. I'm thinking of running Linux or Qubes for just the Internet.
     
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  12. 737Simpilot

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    Where the real vulnerability lies is the router. I can't tell you how many infected routers try to connect to my site. When I had a Wordpress blog this one idiot kept trying to get in all using multiple legit ISP IP addresses. He constantly got 403rd, yet persisted.
     
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    I run a small software called spy the spy. If things are changed or added to the PC, I get an alert. I monitor the Windows, AppData and Program Data folders.
     
  14. Johnny-be-Good

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    Safest way to run MS Windows is off line, never to communicate in any way with another computer :D

    A Linux Live DVD is how I handle the Internet. Along with a NAT router.
     
  15. Zygmo

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    I don't think it is luck. I still use a Win XP machine daily, and don't worry about where I go on the net. And, to quote another here....I don't get any viruses that I am aware of. :) It has been my experience that any Windows OS will eventually slow down from getting cluttered with odds and ends leftover from programs installed and removed, youtube downloads, and favorite places saved and forgotten about. I have seen that all through the years from Windows 3.1 through Win8.1. Have not used Win 10 enough yet to know but I bet it does too. Just keep your firewall on and your anti virus program up to date. I keep current images of my drives, and just restore from those now and then. Also, keep your automatic updates turned on.....very recently Microsoft released a security update for XP!

    I don't do any banking on my computers, and any Amazon or Ebay orders I make are done with a card on a bank account that is only used for that. I just deposit enough money to cover whatever orders I make.

    One little hint. If you ever see a red, or black window suddenly pop up on your screen that won't let you close, and or says something about encrypting your computer's information, or you open an email that does something similar...turn your computer off immediately....even if you have to unplug it from the wall. I have probably seen 3 or 4 of those threatening screens since I started using computers in 1995 and I hit the switch on my power strips the instant I saw them. They were always gone when I restarted. I have told friends about this and one had it happen just a few days ago, and he saved his computer the same way.
     
  16. Johnny-be-Good

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    With such an old OS, that MS doesn't support anymore, at least you don't have to worry about new MS updates corrupting your system ( :D )

    I do remember slowdowns with Win9x after a lot of online usage, but with Win 7, I noticed slowdowns more after critical updates went to the rollup 'all or nothing' format.

    Looks like you've got good online practices and that's probably the best element of good security.
    But I do think you've been lucky :)
     
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