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#1 ·
I have just started to use a new machine I put together and I'm trying to take my old hard drive (a Maxtor Fireball 3 30 GB) and connect it to the new machine as a slave drive. The master hard drive in the new machine is a Western Digital WDC WD800BB. Now I know the IDE 2 slot on the motherboard is working because the system recognizes the CD-ROM drive. I have tried every jumper setting possible. I follow the WDC setting. The Maxtor is a 9 pin drive, so the WDC said to put two jumpers when running a dual set up. This did not work. I tried to set it how Maxtor wants it where if it's going to be a slave drive then there shouldn't be a jumper at all. I thought that it might be a system level issue , but I've tried every combination in the drive sequence to make it work and it just won't. Every time it says that the drive is not found. I know the drive works fine because I can put it back in the old machine and it boots right up. I'm not sure where to go with this. I've even set each drive to the manufacturers specifications and it still doesn't work. What's also strange is that the WDC has to be set on cable select to work even with out a cable select cable connected. This is all happening before the OS ever boots up. Any suggestions?
 
#2 ·
If this is a new machine, why use such outdated [and slow] drives? Even the WD is only a 2meg cache drive. Modern mb are really designed to use sata drives.

Next if you really really must use these drives, post your exact system specs AND how you have them connected; ie Asus xxx123 motherboard with drives connected to ide1, ide2, etc.
 
#3 ·
Using the word "new" is a mistake of mine and I apologize for that. This isn't a truly new machine. It's a machine that I inherited from someone that was better than mine. I'm not looking to permanently use the Maxtor drive. I just need to get my information off it.

Now I've got the WDC connected to IDE 1 and it's jumpered as a cable select. I have to do this apparently because even with out a cable select cable if I jumper it as a master the system says it's not detected. I am trying to connect the Maxtor to IDE 2 and have it jumpered as a slave drive which means it doesn't have a jumper at all.

Here are the specs of my Machine:


Operating System
MS Windows 7 32-bit



CPU
Intel Celeron 325
Cores 1
Threads 1
Name Intel Celeron 325
Code Name Prescott
Package Socket 478 mPGA
Technology 90nm
Specification Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.53GHz
Family F
Extended Family F
Model 4
Extended Model 4
Stepping 1
Revision E0
Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Bus Speed 133.0 MHz
Rated Bus Speed 532.0 MHz
Stock Core Speed 2533 MHz
Stock Bus Speed 133 MHz
Caches
L1 Data Cache Size 16 KBytes
L1 trace cache 12 Kuops
L2 Unified Cache Size 256 KBytes
Core 0
Core Speed 2527.0 MHz
Multiplier x 19.0
Bus Speed 133.0 MHz
Rated Bus Speed 532.0 MHz
Thread 1
APIC ID 0



RAM
Memory slots
Total memory slots 2
Used memory slots 2
Free memory slots 0
Memory
Type DDR
Size 1280 MBytes
Channels # Single
DRAM Frequency 166.3 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 2.5 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 3 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 7 clocks
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 2
Slot #1
Type DDR
Size 256 MBytes
Manufacturer MOSEL
Max Bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part Number V826632K24SCTG-D3
Serial Number 85CA2066
Week/year 47 / 05
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #3
Frequency 200.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 3.0
RAS# To CAS# 3
RAS# Precharge 3
tRAS 8
Voltage 2.500 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 166.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 2.5
RAS# To CAS# 3
RAS# Precharge 3
tRAS 7
Voltage 2.500 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 133.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 2.0
RAS# To CAS# 2
RAS# Precharge 2
tRAS 6
Voltage 2.500 V
Slot #2
Type DDR
Size 1024 MBytes
Manufacturer Kingston
Max Bandwidth PC2700 (166 MHz)
Part Number K
Serial Number 6E1E3715
Week/year 45 / 01
SPD Ext. EPP
JEDEC #2
Frequency 166.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 2.5
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 8
Voltage 2.500 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 133.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 2.0
RAS# To CAS# 3
RAS# Precharge 3
tRAS 6
Voltage 2.500 V


Motherboard
Manufacturer Dell Computer Corp.
Model 0CF458
Chipset Vendor Intel
Chipset Model i865P/PE/G/i848P
Chipset Revision A2
Southbridge Vendor Intel
Southbridge Model 82801EB (ICH5)
Southbridge Revision 02
BIOS
Brand Dell Computer Corporation
Version A00
Date 08/15/2005




Hard Drives
WDC WD800BB-75JHC0 ATA Device
Manufacturer Western Digital
Form Factor GB/2.5-inch
Interface IDE
Capacity 78GB
Real size 80,000,000,000 bytes
S.M.A.R.T
01 Read Error Rate 200 (200 worst) Data 0000000000
03 Spin-Up Time 163 (161) Data 0000000B11
04 Start/Stop Count 100 (100) Data 0000000081
05 Reallocated Sectors Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
07 Seek Error Rate 200 (200) Data 0000000000
09 Power-On Hours (POH) 058 (058) Data 0000007A0C
0A Spin Retry Count 100 (100) Data 0000000000
0B Recalibration Retries 100 (100) Data 0000000000
0C Device Power Cycle Count 100 (100) Data 0000000080
C2 Temperature 106 (094) Data 0000000025
C4 Reallocation Event Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
C5 Current Pending Sector Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
C6 Uncorrectable Sector Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
C7 UltraDMA CRC Error Count 200 (200) Data 0000000000
C8 Write Error Rate / Multi-Zone Error Rate 200 (200) Data 0000000000
Temperature 97 °F
Temperature Range ok (less than 122 °F)
Status Good
Partition 0
Partition ID Disk #0, Partition #0
Disk Letter C:
File System NTFS
Volume Serial Number B049023C
Size 74GB
Used Space 55GB (74%)
Free Space 20.0GB (26%)
 
#4 ·
I think you are confusing the Master/Slave settings. Your computer should have two IDE connectors/channels on the motherboard if its an older motherboard, or one if a newer model, or non at all if really new. Each connector or channel supports 2 drives. On each channel you can have a Master drive and optionally a Slave drive, you can jumpered them as master/slave or both as cable select if using the correct 80 wire IDE cable. The drives or jumper settings on one channel have no effect on the other channel. Also each manufacturer or drive has its own setting positions for Master/Slave/CS and those jumper positions cannot be applied to another drive. CD & DVD drives must also be jumpered accordingly.

Also being a Dell motherboard, you may need to enter the BIOS setup(F2) and enable the Slave Device - set to Auto and it should detect it correctly on the next boot.

So if you have two drives on the same IDE cable(HDD, CD, or DVD), one needs to be jumpered as Master and the other as Slave, or both to Cable Select and you must use and 80 wire cable with the drive intended to be Master on the end black connector, the Slave on the middle gray connector, and th blue end plugged into the motherboard.

As a side note, Windows XP would probably run better in this computer then Windows 7 as that chipset and motherboard are not officially supported with Windows 7 and the system specs are more inline with Windows XP; single core budget processor and 1.25GB of RAM.
 
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