There Was Zero Evidence Election Fraud?

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Just a thread to track and discuss the accusations/rebuttals resulting from forensic audits and other investigations of the 2020 Election that are ongoing in Arizona and Georgia with potentially more States to be added.

Please note that this is not intended to be another Bash Trump thread. As in, I do not care about inflammatory statements that Trump, Biden, or their surrogates, have to say about any process, organization, or individual involved in the audit process. Rather this is a thread to seriously look at election integrity and to analyze reported information when it comes to the various State voting processes. So please try to stay on topic.


LOL!!!

And here we are....the backers of sedition and insurrection scammed?
Fitting..............


MAGA Audit Fans Turn on Cyber Ninjas After Court Ruling
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cyber-ninjas-attacked-by-maga-audit-fans-after-court-ruling

After a disastrous day in court on Thursday, the company behind Arizona’s chaotic Maricopa County election “audit” is disbanding, and now some rightwing fans are furiously wondering if it was all just a big scam.
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The move comes as a blow to audit dead-enders who have long insisted that Cyber Ninjas secretly has proof of Donald Trump’s 2020 victory—but who are now smearing the group as “grifters.”
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Hannah, however, warned that the $50,000 sanctions would begin on Friday, and were applicable to individuals, not just the now-defunct company. (edit: ouch! :D )
No kind words for Jovan Pulitzer, either.
Shocking, just shocking lol.
 

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Swing State Trumpers Forged Letters to National Archives in Harebrained Scheme to Overturn Election
https://news.yahoo.com/swing-state-trumpers-forged-letters-145502210.html

Pro-Trump groups in Arizona and Michigan attempted to fool the National Archives by sending forged certificates of ascertainment declaring Trump the recipient of the state’s 2020 electors. The Jan. 6 committee now has those fake certificates, thanks to the secretaries of State for both swing states, Politico reported on Monday.

The National Archives shared the forged documents with state officials, informing them it would not accept the fakes.
Hey Jack.....I gotta say.....this has been a fantastic thread :D
 

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OK....if a broken clock is correct two times a day, Mike Lindell needs a psychiatric intervention. Maybe even arrested.

MyPillow Guy Mike Lindell Just Made His Most Bonkers Claim Yet
https://news.yahoo.com/mypillow-guy-mike-lindell-just-035542309.html

“We already have all the pieces of the puzzle,” Lindell said on Real America’s Voice this week. “We have enough evidence to put everybody in prison for life, 300-and-some million people.”

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell says he has evidence to put 300 million in jail for election fraud
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...llow-mike-lindell-2020-election-b1991885.html
“It’s so amazing, all the things that we have,” he told conservative news channel Real America’s Voice in an interview that aired on Tuesday. “We have all the pieces of the puzzle. You talk about evidence. We have enough evidence to put everyone in prison for life, 300 and some million people, we have that back all the way to November and December.”

No doubt, even pundits at Fox are likely confused:

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Just say 'No'.


tic-toc!
No worries, Donald, Mike's got yer back......lol!
 
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......................... Rather this is a thread to seriously look at election integrity and to analyze reported information when it comes to the various State voting processes. So please try to stay on topic.
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It is amazing the path this thread has taken.
From false claims of fraud done by Biden supporters to actual fraud committed by the Trump camp.
And here we are with some more info about a recent post I made:

Michigan AG says scheme to overthrow election with fake electors ‘may go all the way to the top’
https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-ag-...lectors-may-go-all-the-way-top-090042716.html

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel appeared on The Rachel Maddow Show Thursday, where she spoke about the scheme in which Republicans in several states that President Biden won forged election documents in an attempt to give the election to former President Trump. Fraudulent electors in Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada and Georgia sent documents to the National Archives to certify the election for Trump, despite Biden having won.

I remember a long time ago when conservative Republicans were pragmatic.
I remember a Richard Nixon that stepped down from office because......
he lied to Congress about wire tapping.

And here we are....with an x-President that openly led sedition and insurrection, was impeached twice...still active in national politics....and, some claim, if not a driving force in the next Congressional elections, a likely candidate in the 2024 Presidential election.
And inept....from his death cult policies concerning the Covid-19 pandemic to the degradation of our infrastructure.
The guy lies to everyone ....every day.
And pie in the sky promises he makes and doesn't accomplish.

The public still loves him. Well, those that elected him still love him.
Yeah, from Qanon to white supremacists, Tea Party radicals to Libertarian anarchists. And let's not forget the religious right and all the militant militias.

A promise here, a promise there, promises-promises everywhere.

I remember a long time ago when conservative Republicans were pragmatic.
A long time ago.

Now they aren't even good at faking election results :cool:
 

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Exactly what are you barking about here? Are you saying that the January 6th protest equated to a civil war, where the aggressors did not bring firepower (this mean lots and lots of guns) to accomplish their designated mission? As I tried to make clear, an actual civil war scares the living daylights out of me and I have no desire to see that happen.
And yet this doesn't seem to bother you in the least.

Tucker Carlson repeatedly interviewed a man he described as a disabled veteran. The FBI is accusing the same man of organizing an Oath Keepers militia to aid the Capitol insurrection.
https://www.businessinsider.com/tuc...oath-keeper-aided-capitol-insurrection-2022-1


According to the indictment, Caldwell was one of the coordinators of the Oath Keepers' quick reaction force teams on January 6, readying members to rapidly transport stockpiled firearms into Washington, DC, "in support of operations aimed at using force to stop the lawful transfer of presidential power."

"If we had someone standing by at a dock ramp (one near the Pentagon for sure) we could have our Quick Response Team with the heavy weapons standing by, quickly load them and ferry them across the river to our waiting arms," Caldwell said, according to the indictment.
And this:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/lead...dicted-federal-court-seditious-conspiracy-and


Exactly what are you barking about here?
;)
 

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Please note that this is not intended to be another Bash Trump thread. As in, I do not care about inflammatory statements that Trump, Biden, or their surrogates, have to say about any process, organization, or individual involved in the audit process..............
Jack, just how is it you want to address reality?
Trump was not only an element of the 2020 election ( a candidate ), we're now finding out his campaign was also involved in attempting to seat fraudulent electors in 7 states.

The 'count' has ended. Trump lost. Period.
But fraud is still a concern in that 2020 election process.

Michigan GOP co-chair says Trump campaign directed fake electors, per CNN audio
https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-gop-co-chair-says-004310038.html

Michigan Republican Party Co-Chair Meshawn Maddock said that the Trump presidential campaign directed Republicans in Michigan to seat fake GOP Electoral College delegates, according to audio obtained by CNN.

Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw fake electors plot in 7 states
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/poli...icials-rudy-giuliani-fake-electors/index.html
Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw efforts in December 2020 to put forward illegitimate electors from seven states that Trump lost, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the scheme.

Why aren't those involved arrested and awaiting trial?
According to the accusations and other news reports, they're obviously not innocent.

In the past, you have made an issue about jailing H Clinton for supposed email infractions.
( btw, I didn't vote for H Clinton )
But your position for sedition and insurrection by Trump seems more like acceptance.

Would you please explain why those supposed email infractions are a more serious crime/offense than the actual attempt to overthrow a legal government.
 
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Why aren't those involved arrested and awaiting trial?
I am sure that you are old enough to remember Watergate.
Back then it took a long time to see everyone prosecuted, much more time than we have seen elapse on this case.
And this case is a different animal: The events of Jan 6 2021 at the Capital still need to be prosecuted from the bottom up. This takes a ton of resources for the DOJ, which I believe was eviscerated by the former guy's administration. And in the mean time this pandemic thing is slowing down everything, with people working remotely and others off sick with Omicron.
Patience grasshopper (Another 70's reference)
 
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My question was rhetorical lol.
I am wondering if the prosecutions are being timed to do the most damage to Republicans prior to the 2022 midterms.

I sometimes ask myself if Republicans are really that bad, and it does not take long to remember the reasons why they are.
Would it be fair game for Trump to be in trial on election day? Sure.
 

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.................

I sometimes ask myself if Republicans are really that bad, and it does not take long to remember the reasons why they are.
Would it be fair game for Trump to be in trial on election day? Sure.
I'd rather it be immediate.

Are they really that bad?

Well, here's the evidence:

Read the never-issued Trump order that would have seized voting machines
https://news.yahoo.com/read-never-issued-trump-order-172157363.html

This pdf:
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000017e-7db3-d1fc-ad7f-fff3fd720000


And imo, every member of Congress that has backed and continues to promote Trump's play for power is just as culpable and responsible for sedition and acts of insurrection as Trump himself.
 

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Well...well...well.........


A former Trump official admitted he helped Rudy Giuliani with the fake electors scheme
https://news.yahoo.com/former-trump-official-admitted-helped-061415234.html

A former Trump campaign adviser admitted to playing a role in a scheme to have illegitimate pro-Trump supporters falsely certify the election for him in seven states won by President Joe Biden.

What a shock! :D


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Rather this is a thread to seriously look at election integrity and to analyze reported information when it comes to the various State voting processes. So please try to stay on topic.
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lol!
 

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Rather this is a thread to seriously look at election integrity and to analyze reported information when it comes to the various State voting processes. So please try to stay on topic.
Pro-Trump Death Threats Prompt Bills in 3 States to Protect Election Workers
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-new...bills-in-3-states-to-protect-election-workers

In all, Reuters documented more than 850 threats and hostile messages https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-ELECTION/THREATS/mopanwmlkva to U.S. election officials and workers. Nearly all the communications echoed Trump’s baseless claims that he lost the 2020 election because of fraud. More than 100 of the threats could meet the federal threshold for criminal prosecution, according to law professors and attorneys who reviewed them.
Time and time again, it's primarily Trump and his followers committing/attempting fraud.
And not a simple majority of examples, almost exclusively all 'Trump' all the time. And it's done with violence, the threat of violence, misinformation and lies.
Worst of all.....a large segment of the population approves.
Even Congress.
 

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